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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 14, 2017 19:48:30 GMT
Peter I can remember the distinctve sound of the Kromhout as 'chonk, chonk , etc Roy
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Post by bargemast on Mar 14, 2017 21:11:59 GMT
Peter I can remember the distinctve sound of the Kromhout as 'chonk, chonk , etc Roy The sound of the Kromhout that you write as 'chonk, chonk' still sounds like an old an much loved sound in the back of my head, that was made by the old big slow revving Kromhout two-stroke engines.
That distinctive sound is a sound that I prefer above the sound of a much more modern and easier Gardner, which surely is a better engine.
I'm quite sentimental Roy, with these sounds of the past.
and and how the Dutch like to play with their tugs, messuring the bollard pull during one of the yearly Tugboat meetings with a few nice sounding old engines too.
Peter.
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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 14, 2017 21:32:18 GMT
Both Tugs ended up being scrapped in 1964. The engine from Tug 'Leo' ended up in Ainscough's 'Burscough 2' which still survives on the River Shannon in Ireland. One remark said you could balance an old three penny piece on engine housing when running.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 15, 2017 7:10:20 GMT
Both Tugs ended up being scrapped in 1964. The engine from Tug 'Leo' ended up in Ainscough's 'Burscough 2' which still survives on the River Shannon in Ireland. One remark said you could balance an old three penny piece on engine housing when running. Yes Roy, I do remember that story too, the Gardner LW engines were reknown for their vibration free running, they were really very smooth.
Saying that, I'm sure that underneath several of these engines, you'll find a handful of old three penny pieces when the boats are scrapped, that ended up in the bilges, .
Real Masterpieces of British engineering, there are still so many of these engines working hard every day, in boats of all sizes, generators, trucks, saw-mills etc.
They were more expensive to buy, but a bargain in the long run with their legendary reliability.
Good to read that the engine of Tug "Leo" is still doing it's job on "Burscough 2" in Ireland, many of the 4,5 and 6 cylinder LW's started their lives in commercial vehicles, trucks and busses, and after the vehicles were scrapped the engines often started a second (and sometimes even a third) life in barges.
Peter.
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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 15, 2017 13:48:08 GMT
Peter Another photo copy of Tug 'Sulzer' taken in Bramwith Lock in 1932, she had a 90 h.p engine and could tow 5 craft up to Doncaster, but only 3 to Rotherham. So you can see how Parkes completely altered the superstructure for the Liverpool end. Roy .
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Post by bargemast on Mar 15, 2017 17:50:55 GMT
Peter Another photo copy of Tug 'Sulzer' taken in Bramwith Lock in 1932, she had a 90 h.p engine and could tow 5 craft up to Doncaster, but only 3 to Rotherham. So you can see how Parkes completely altered the superstructure for the Liverpool end. Roy . What a beautiful shape had that Tug "Sulzer" by the look of it not a straight part along her hull sides, if she was as round under water too, the prop shouldn't have had a problem to get the water it needed to pull 5 craft to Doncaster, and 3 to Rotherham with only 90HP (surely a lot of power at the time).
Thanks a lot for sharing all these lovely photos Roy.
Peter.
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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 15, 2017 19:18:10 GMT
Peter Back to M/b 'Angelo' here is a photo of the Lister 3 cylinder engine fitted in 1959/60 to replace the Coventry Godiva engines originally fitted to all three of Parkes Motor Boats. One query I have is that this engine was painted silver and not the traditional green which Lister usually were. Any reason why? Roy
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Post by kris on Mar 15, 2017 20:14:09 GMT
Peter Back to M/b 'Angelo' here is a photo of the Lister 3 cylinder engine fitted in 1959/60 to replace the Coventry Godiva engines originally fitted to all three of Parkes Motor Boats. One query I have is that this engine was painted silver and not the traditional green which Lister usually were. Any reason why? Roy View Attachment i have seen listers in silver, but I've no idea why.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2017 20:18:22 GMT
Ex admiralty maybe? Or some other organisation ordering a large number of units therefore able to dictate colour.
Assuming it was the original colour not painted over.
Someone told me that engines were painted light colours when used in dark below deck engine rooms to make the engines more visible for maintenance.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 16, 2017 10:10:51 GMT
Peter Back to M/b 'Angelo' here is a photo of the Lister 3 cylinder engine fitted in 1959/60 to replace the Coventry Godiva engines originally fitted to all three of Parkes Motor Boats. One query I have is that this engine was painted silver and not the traditional green which Lister usually were. Any reason why? Roy Sorry Roy, I can't help with an answer on your query about the colour of the Lister in M/b "Angolo".
If they were happy to do the same as a Dutch engine factory "SAMOFA" who's engines were painted standard in a Green hammer finish paint, they were always willing to paint their engines in a different colour if the client wanted that.
Peter.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Mar 16, 2017 11:45:51 GMT
Listers changed their standard paint finish colour several times during the company's existence, both for industrial and marine engines, and they would also supply engines finished in red oxide primer if so ordered. Up to about the late 1950's the standard finish colour was dark green, and then at around the time when the first air-cooled models came out, HA and HB 2's and 3's, in 1958 they went over to a silvery, very light greyish finish. The HA3 in 'Farnworth' when I worked it in the early 1960's was a factory painted silver finish.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 16, 2017 12:23:03 GMT
Listers changed their standard paint finish colour several times during the company's existence, both for industrial and marine engines, and they would also supply engines finished in red oxide primer if so ordered. Up to about the late 1950's the standard finish colour was dark green, and then at around the time when the first air-cooled models came out, HA and HB 2's and 3's, in 1958 they went over to a silvery, very light greyish finish. The HA3 in 'Farnworth' when I worked it in the early 1960's was a factory painted silver finish. Excellent info Tony, this has solved Roy's query.
Peter.
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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 16, 2017 15:15:47 GMT
Tony Thank you for taking time out to solve the Lister Engine Colour schemes. Regards Roy Gibbons
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Post by angelo1728 on Mar 16, 2017 18:43:50 GMT
Tony Re M/b Farnworth did you do any trips on the coal traffic to Liverpool or were you involved with Docks traffic. I remember the Blakes Father and Son working on Farnworth. Rooy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 18:50:16 GMT
Farnworth is a nice boat. When I first came on the cut in mid nineties it was used as a trip boat around Denham on the Grand Union. Then it was bought by the current owner who had a very nice steel cabin fitted to the shape of the original sheeted up hold and a domestic internal fitout. I think the engine has been changed twice. Boat is moored and lived on offside half way between Batchworth lock and Lot Mead lock on GU at Hall Farm.
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