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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 18, 2017 11:57:03 GMT
I imagine that with Brexit on the table, the UKIP vote will collapse, it will be interesting to see where those (nearly) four million votes go.
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Post by Saltysplash on Apr 18, 2017 11:57:40 GMT
It will be interesting to see where the Labour voters go, if they turn out at all, They may shift to the Liberals or the Greens or if Brexit motivated will plum for the Torys. I cant see many voting blue though. An opotunity for Ukip to snap some possibly if they can stop beings Knobs for a couple of weeks.
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Post by Saltysplash on Apr 18, 2017 11:59:31 GMT
I imagine that with Brexit on the table, the UKIP vote will collapse, it will be interesting to see where those (nearly) four million votes go. They will have to re-sell themselves I think.
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 18, 2017 12:10:17 GMT
I imagine that with Brexit on the table, the UKIP vote will collapse, it will be interesting to see where those (nearly) four million votes go. They will have to re-sell themselves I think. They have only 6 weeks. Unless Nigel comes back they're doomed.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 18, 2017 12:12:50 GMT
They will have to re-sell themselves I think. They have only 6 weeks. Unless Nigel comes back they're doomed. Whoever is in charge, I think their work is done. I doubt they will get even one million votes this time around, the whole point of a UKIP vote in 2015 was that it was a vote against eu membership.
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 18, 2017 12:18:59 GMT
They have only 6 weeks. Unless Nigel comes back they're doomed. Whoever is in charge, I think their work is done. I doubt they will get even one million votes this time around, the whole point of a UKIP vote in 2015 was that it was a vote against eu membership. For which a growing majority of disenfranchised electorate voted. They are still disenfranchised and the Tories aren't, imo, what they want, neither are labour. Liberals are wasted votes allowing lab/cons to get in with small proportions of the vote. What a mess.
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Post by tonyqj on Apr 18, 2017 12:26:09 GMT
Could be worse. Look at the US.
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Post by Saltysplash on Apr 18, 2017 12:32:19 GMT
Whoever is in charge, I think their work is done. I doubt they will get even one million votes this time around, the whole point of a UKIP vote in 2015 was that it was a vote against eu membership. For which a growing majority of disenfranchised electorate voted. They are still disenfranchised and the Tories aren't, imo, what they want, neither are labour. Liberals are wasted votes allowing lab/cons to get in with small proportions of the vote. What a mess. Quite, They had a great chance following the Referendum and Labours fail,to build on what they had but ended up bickering and pushing each other over in their search for a new leader. I'm not convinced Nuttall is going to pull it all together but you never know, Ukip can still have a platform even if its only to make noise over the tory's brexit negotiations
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Post by Albion on Apr 18, 2017 12:58:15 GMT
A well written statement by Mrs May. Sound judgement in my view regarding Brexit negotiations from a position of strength. Of course if we wake up on the 9th with a new labour Prime minister, the judgement may not prove as sound as it looks. And everybody told me we'd never vote for Brexit, and that Trump could never be president. Care to step through the looking glass anyone? Rog To get past the fixed term act she will need to secure a 2/3rds majority in the HoC first. If Labour are that worried about their prospects they could, of course, make the idea fail at that first hurdle. The Lib Dems will support it in the hope that they will dramatically increase their vote by garnering the support of the 48% who voted against Brexit. The SNP will use it as a popularity gauge to try to suss out what their chances in another independence referendum will truly be.......without having to hold a referendum of course. My concern is that with the current unpredictability of the electorate we could end up with a messy inconclusive result that will allow Brexit to be derailed or diluted. Roger
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 13:19:35 GMT
I wont be voting labour. Jeremy corbyn as a prime minister terrifies me. I hate the torys with a vengeance, but realistically there is sod all else at the minute. Shrewd move by May.
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Post by lollygagger on Apr 18, 2017 13:47:16 GMT
I wont be voting labour. Jeremy corbyn as a prime minister terrifies me. I hate the torys with a vengeance, but realistically there is sod all else at the minute. Shrewd move by May. I would say stick to hating the Tories, vote for anyone likely to beat them and see what happens. Seeing the Tories as the best option is sad.
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Post by tonyqj on Apr 18, 2017 13:53:02 GMT
I wont be voting labour. Jeremy corbyn as a prime minister terrifies me. I hate the torys with a vengeance, but realistically there is sod all else at the minute. Shrewd move by May. I would say stick to hating the Tories, vote for anyone likely to beat them and see what happens. Seeing the Tories as the best option is sad. Personally I see it as logical, not sad. Be a boring old world if we all thought the same.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 13:56:32 GMT
I wont be voting labour. Jeremy corbyn as a prime minister terrifies me. I hate the torys with a vengeance, but realistically there is sod all else at the minute. Shrewd move by May. I would say stick to hating the Tories, vote for anyone likely to beat them and see what happens. Seeing the Tories as the best option is sad. I generally vote for the constituency "person" I like, (regardless of party). May will get a massive majority, given all the recent crap. She's hanging corbyn out to dry, and possibly putting sturgeon back in her testube. The downer of course is another 4-5 years of the bloody con club. Although I agree with some of corbyns policy's, I also see him come out with some total rubbish, and in all honesty, I just don't think he is capable of the prime minister job anyway.
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Post by Albion on Apr 18, 2017 14:14:24 GMT
I wont be voting labour. Jeremy corbyn as a prime minister terrifies me. I hate the torys with a vengeance, but realistically there is sod all else at the minute. Shrewd move by May. I am not a Labour supporter but do have some respect for Jeremy Corbyn as he seems like a man of principle (mainly ). However he seems to be an amateur playing at it, with worrying consequences if he ever did achieve No 10 and, to be honest, Labour under his leadership haven't been without a few faux pas and statements 'clarifying' what had been stated quite plainly earlier. John McDonnell seems to be wheeled out fairly frequently to clarify things IMO. Roger
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Post by Bad-Bitch on Apr 18, 2017 14:24:51 GMT
i'm not sure any of the other parties have any idea how to conduct a brexit, may has been doing all the footwork and is on the road to getting us trade deals in various countries, i doubt the other parties even have a mandate or any idea where to start, do labour even have a party now
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