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Post by Mr Stabby on May 6, 2017 20:19:23 GMT
I just cannot get over the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day he was elected leader. Surely he can understand why he is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite? I just cannot get over the fact that Mrs T May was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day she lost the referendum. Surely she can understand why she is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite and rightly has the nickname of Cruella? I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to say here, I personally won't be voting for anyone. People do change though, there are even some Thunderboat members who started out as female and then decided they were male, if you get my drift.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:27:49 GMT
I won't be voting, it would just be too much of a faff, especially as I'm out cruising. If it's that important that I do vote, then the Powers That Be can wake up to the fact that we live in the internet age, and allow me to vote online rather than making me trot off to some infants' school to vote or pick up postal voting forms from some crappy Post Office which still hasn't woken up to the fact that every other shop in the land opens on Saturday afternoons and Sundays and has done for the last 30 years now. I will be voting mainly because our constituency is considered something close to a marginal. if it's returned to the Conservatives it will be indicative of quite a big swing back nationwide which is what we need right now given where we are.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:33:22 GMT
Going back to sarahoy's post
The tories have a long and illustrious history of putting women in charge when real shit is about to happen. Thatcher. She destroyed this country. Thats what the man on the street thinks. What a joke. Does anyone believe a prime minister is anything more than a puppet?
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Post by Saltysplash on May 6, 2017 20:34:22 GMT
I just cannot get over the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day he was elected leader. Surely he can understand why he is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite? Yet listening to some, they believe he is the most genuine, approachable politian whom they can trust! WTF!
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Post by Saltysplash on May 6, 2017 20:37:13 GMT
I just cannot get over the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day he was elected leader. Surely he can understand why he is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite? I just cannot get over the fact that Mrs T May was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day she lost the referendum. Surely she can understand why she is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite and rightly has the nickname of Cruella? The major difference between her and the other leaders is, She has accepted the result of the referendum and is acting on it reguardless of what she was originally opposed to
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:38:48 GMT
Going back to sarahoy's post Does anyone believe a prime minister is anything more than a puppet? A PM is most definitely not a puppet, they have a great deal of influence on how Parliament performs.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:42:15 GMT
I just cannot get over the fact that Mrs T May was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day she lost the referendum. Surely she can understand why she is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite and rightly has the nickname of Cruella? The major difference between her and the other leaders is, She has accepted the result of the referendum and is acting on it reguardless of what she was originally opposed to So what is the Labour/Corbyn's position on Brexit?
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Post by Saltysplash on May 6, 2017 20:45:41 GMT
The major difference between her and the other leaders is, She has accepted the result of the referendum and is acting on it reguardless of what she was originally opposed to So what is the Labour/Corbyn's position on Brexit? Quite, I would be interested to know as well.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 20:48:54 GMT
Ask Diane Abbott.
She's reliable at giving the party line.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on May 6, 2017 21:08:57 GMT
Ask Diane Abbott. She's reliable at giving the party line. Rog
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 21:11:36 GMT
Ask Diane Abbott. She's reliable at giving the party line. Rog As long as it doesn't involve facts and figures. She is a joke frankly.
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 6, 2017 21:22:25 GMT
The major difference between her and the other leaders is, She has accepted the result of the referendum and is acting on it reguardless of what she was originally opposed to So what is the Labour/Corbyn's position on Brexit? Corbyn was opposed to eu membership for almost the whole of his political life, but had a damascene conversion when he became party leader. At the moment, he isn't sure, he seems to still be making his mind up as to which way the wind blows, but generally does seem to still favour the free movement which has caused such a deterioration in the living standard of the working class. Which is why none of us will be voting for him. I guess when you live in Islington you get slightly out of touch with such things.
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Post by patty on May 7, 2017 5:40:29 GMT
OK so they've done a u turn...the 'will of the people' dictated we come out and we need someone to get us out.....who else is there?...In my limited understanding of the s... state we are in May is the best of a not very inspiring bunch..... I just cannot see Corbyn getting us out... I suppose u could say that sometimes you have to set aside personal beliefs for the good of the country and thats what they have done...holding onto something thats now deceased isn't going to forward your career prospects....so instead of .."the ladies not for turning' we have......
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Post by naughtyfox on May 7, 2017 6:49:03 GMT
Ask Diane Abbott. She's reliable at giving the party line. Rog She is a joke frankly.
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Post by JohnV on May 7, 2017 7:47:03 GMT
I just cannot get over the fact that Jeremy Corbyn was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day he was elected leader. Surely he can understand why he is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite? I just cannot get over the fact that Mrs T May was opposed to eu membership for over two decades, but did a complete U-turn on the day she lost the referendum. Surely she can understand why she is almost universally considered to be a shallow, self-serving hypocrite and rightly has the nickname of Cruella? I really don't understand what you believe an MP is meant to do. An MP is in parliament to represent the wishes of the majority of voters in his constituency. The fact that it has become a profession, does not alter that fact. An MP who does not represent the people who elected him, will not be elected the next time. I would rather have someone who changes position, in line with changes in the wishes of the electorate, than a politician who has "knows best" and is at odds with the electorate
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