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Post by tadworth on May 10, 2017 1:34:10 GMT
linkThe terms and conditions for a long term mooring make no distinction between towpath and offside land, there are a multitude of rules that are neither statutory or bylaw, so which "rules" apply at at these moorings ? Their contract or bylaw ? They seem to be on the basis that the section of towpath they have decided are long term moorings are then separate from the relevant legislation. Obviously not possible. www.watersidemooring.com/Home/TermsAndConditions
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Post by peterboat on May 10, 2017 7:52:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 9:11:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 9:13:52 GMT
I find the towpath long term moorings situation quite odd. How did they originally come about?
And can I moor on a LTM site with my CRT licensed boat briefly ? (setting etiquette considerations aside and potential inter-boater aggrevation).
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Post by pearley on May 10, 2017 13:10:56 GMT
I find the towpath long term moorings situation quite odd. How did they originally come about? And can I moor on a LTM site with my CRT licensed boat briefly ? (setting etiquette considerations aside and potential inter-boater aggrevation). A recent thread on Facebook would be a no. It showed a letter sent to London LTM holders to the effect that if other boaters moored on a LaTM they would be subject to £100 overstay charge. But, you would get 2 days to move, so the real answer could be , yes, maybe. |
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Post by kris on May 10, 2017 13:27:05 GMT
I find the towpath long term moorings situation quite odd. How did they originally come about? And can I moor on a LTM site with my CRT licensed boat briefly ? (setting etiquette considerations aside and potential inter-boater aggrevation). they are planning to start charging overstaying fees for boats moored on online moorings that aren't there own. Which seems wrong if the space is vacant then surely it can be used. How long until the Crt house of cards falls? |
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Post by tadworth on May 10, 2017 13:30:08 GMT
We know that long term towpath moorings are not lawful. It comes down to a contract overriding statute again, I can't see that this contract is a valid one, the terms and conditions of which attempt to give CaRT powers that they do not have by bypassing the legislation and creating a contract. If you moor for 14 days (on an empty) long term mooring site you are breaking no statute or bylaw therefore you cannot be prosecuted.
It goes without saying that I am not suggesting anyone moors in someone's paid for mooring space.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 10, 2017 16:24:10 GMT
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Post by pearley on May 10, 2017 16:50:53 GMT
An overstay charge. CRT cannot issue fines.
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Post by thebfg on May 10, 2017 23:08:25 GMT
A penalty charge. Hehe. I suspect many courts would find that an unfair penalty.
I also suspect crt would not be able to defnend it if they did take a boater to court.
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Post by tadworth on May 11, 2017 13:18:05 GMT
I would ask CaRT to provide the legislation that permits them to opt out of the law that forbids mooring on the towpath for more than 14 days. Refunding all the long term towpath moorings since day one would get their attention.
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Post by tadworth on May 28, 2017 19:51:57 GMT
This all comes down to the interpretation of section 43 of the 1962 transport act, unless this is challenged in court and the correct interpretation resolved the Trust has awarded itself the power to do anything it wants.
Licence contract terms
Overstay charges
Reduced mooring time limits
Winter mooring fees
Towpath moorings
Trading licences
All rely on the false interpretation of sect.43.
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