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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 18:34:50 GMT
Turkey has threatened tonight a return to the Migrant Chaos that has swept Europe as it threatens to tear up its deal with the EU.Germany meanwhile is readying contingency plans as Turkey have dug in and refused to narrow the scope of its Terrorism Laws that Europe says are being used to repress academics and journalists.The European Parliament is meanwhile refusing to ratify its visa liberalisation deal with Turkey which was the major sweetener to get Turkey to take back these migrants. The worry for the EU is obviously how this is going to impact the Brexit Vote. Events,Events,for Brexit this could be good news.
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Post by sabcat on May 11, 2016 19:49:19 GMT
I think your view is too narrow. With the way this and other situations - most notably Greece - are unfolding Brexit is becoming less relevant.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2016 20:15:27 GMT
I think your view is too narrow. With the way this and other situations - most notably Greece - are unfolding Brexit is becoming less relevant. If you mean by that total collapse then all to the good.I was reading today that support is growing amongst several European countries for an exit also,Italy was one and by support I mean 50% in favour of a Referendum
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Post by Clinton Cool on May 11, 2016 21:03:47 GMT
I think your view is too narrow. With the way this and other situations - most notably Greece - are unfolding Brexit is becoming less relevant. Could it not be argued that Brexit is extremely relevant in that if it happens; the whole thing will collapse shortly afterwards, Brexit being the match that ignited the fire?
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Post by peterboat on May 11, 2016 21:05:58 GMT
I hope so I really do
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Post by sabcat on May 11, 2016 21:12:47 GMT
I think your view is too narrow. With the way this and other situations - most notably Greece - are unfolding Brexit is becoming less relevant. Could it not be argued that Brexit is extremely relevant in that if it happens; the whole thing will collapse shortly afterwards, Brexit being the match that ignited the fire? It's a fact that Brexit would have a huge impact on the EU for sure but the fire's already lit.
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Post by kris on May 12, 2016 4:29:56 GMT
I don't think the eu will let us leave, because if we do it will collapse. It will be like the Lisbon treaty referendum in Ireland, "you got it wrong go back and have another go"
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Post by naughtyfox on May 12, 2016 7:32:00 GMT
I don't think we hate the 'EU' as an idea or ideal - I think it's just all the corruption going on that we've had enough of. I don't blame the citizens of the countries but their politicians have been taking the piss with appointing themselves and their mates into high places in Brussels and Strasbourg. They all have assistants and translators and body guards, and it's the Gravy Train to Utter Sleaziness.
However, I'm betting 5 Euros that the vote will be to 'Stay In'. Watch this space - for me to be able to say "Told you so!"
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Post by kris on May 12, 2016 7:37:07 GMT
Go steady mr fox all of 5 euros.
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Post by peterboat on May 12, 2016 7:51:46 GMT
I don't think the eu will let us leave, because if we do it will collapse. It will be like the Lisbon treaty referendum in Ireland, "you got it wrong go back and have another go" I dont think we would do it? I suspect real riots on the street would ensue if they tried
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Post by kris on May 12, 2016 7:54:31 GMT
Id hope so Pete, but there's a lot of apathy about. They got away with it in Ireland.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 7:58:36 GMT
I don't think we hate the 'EU' as an idea or ideal - I think it's just all the corruption going on that we've had enough of. I don't blame the citizens of the countries but their politicians have been taking the piss with appointing themselves and their mates into high places in Brussels and Strasbourg. They all have assistants and translators and body guards, and it's the Gravy Train to Utter Sleaziness. However, I'm betting 5 Euros that the vote will be to 'Stay In'. Watch this space - for me to be able to say "Told you so!" I agree with you I believe the people will be scared into Voting to remain,but I don't think the margin will be large enough to make the issue disappear and I think it will collapse anyway.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 8:15:35 GMT
I don't think we hate the 'EU' as an idea or ideal - I think it's just all the corruption going on that we've had enough of. I don't blame the citizens of the countries but their politicians have been taking the piss with appointing themselves and their mates into high places in Brussels and Strasbourg. They all have assistants and translators and body guards, and it's the Gravy Train to Utter Sleaziness. However, I'm betting 5 Euros that the vote will be to 'Stay In'. Watch this space - for me to be able to say "Told you so!" I agree with this. I don't trust the leaders of this country never mind those in Brussels. Even some local councillors have their fingers in 'other' pots. Much of the driving force for staying in the EU is to eventually pull together the unions of the 5 continents and create a single world government (NWO). That really scares me. Imagine the world being run by someone like Trump, Putin or even Cameron...no thanks. Get us out of the EU ASAP please.
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