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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 22, 2017 6:51:05 GMT
I've got ninety thousand pounds in my pajamas. I've got forty thousand French francs in my fridge. I've got lots and lots of lira, Now the deutschmark's getting dearer, And my dollar bill could buy the Brooklyn Bridge. There is... ...nothing quite as wonderful as money! There is nothing quite as beautiful as cash! Some people say it's folly, but I'd rather have the lolly, With money you can make a splash! There is nothing quite as wonderful as money! There is nothing like a newly minted pound! Everyone must hanker for the butchness of a banker It's accountancy that makes the world go round! You can keep your Marxist ways, for it's only just a phase... Money, money, money makes the world go round! Money! Money! Money! Money! Money! Money! Money! Money! Money
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Jun 22, 2017 6:55:41 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Jun 22, 2017 6:55:41 GMT
Money rhymes with honey and fluffy bunny.
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Jun 22, 2017 7:02:46 GMT
Post by patty on Jun 22, 2017 7:02:46 GMT
Money rhymes with honey and fluffy bunny. somehow if you substitute those 2 words in turn in that rhyme doesn't quite read as well
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Jun 22, 2017 9:19:16 GMT
Post by Telemachus on Jun 22, 2017 9:19:16 GMT
That was interesting reading about Pol Pot, well pretty disturbing actually. Nothing to do with removing the monetary system, a lot to do with being a nasty dictator. Anyway I've already said as long as you have people who don't put in what they take I guess we are stuck with it. What is interesting is that they are still reluctant to use the reintroduced Riel out there in preference to the US dollar. Those Americans get everywhere. Yes most definitely a nasty and quite mad dictator. That's the thing, in order to think that eliminating money is a good thing, you'd have to be barking mad! I think the fondness for the dollar is just a regional thing, the same with their neighbours Vietnam. Which is odd considering how the USA bombed the shit out of Vietnam. Same when we went to Burma/Myanmar, although there, they have an obsession with dollar notes being pristine. They don't want crumpled or well-used notes!
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Jun 22, 2017 9:37:58 GMT
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Post by lollygagger on Jun 22, 2017 9:37:58 GMT
Ordinary people the world over just want stability to live their lives in a predictable way. They want to wake up tomorrow and find it's just like today. The dollar is seen as a stable currency.
Naturally this is bloody annoying if you're a political leader or tyrant and you're trying to free your population from all that the USA stands for. It's quite understandable really that in that position you wish to be rid of dollars and use your own currency. But your population just wants a currency worth pretty much what it was yesterday because all they want is a stable, predictable tomorrow...
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Jun 22, 2017 9:53:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 9:53:36 GMT
What people want in regards stability of money and pegging that against the Dollar is understandable. Not sure it should be a government policy though, Argentina tried that and I witnessed the down side.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:40:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 10:40:28 GMT
That was interesting reading about Pol Pot, well pretty disturbing actually. Nothing to do with removing the monetary system, a lot to do with being a nasty dictator. Anyway I've already said as long as you have people who don't put in what they take I guess we are stuck with it. What is interesting is that they are still reluctant to use the reintroduced Riel out there in preference to the US dollar. Those Americans get everywhere. Yes most definitely a nasty and quite mad dictator. That's the thing, in order to think that eliminating money is a good thing, you'd have to be barking mad! I think the fondness for the dollar is just a regional thing, the same with their neighbours Vietnam. Which is odd considering how the USA bombed the shit out of Vietnam. Same when we went to Burma/Myanmar, although there, they have an obsession with dollar notes being pristine. They don't want crumpled or well-used notes! Ha ha, I don't think it's mad to wish for a world with no money, it's just mad to believe it could be achieved whilst there are greedy bastards everywhere. The trouble is that trying to force people to be nice to each other and share (communist view) doesn't really work. Letting people chose to be nice to each other and share (Tory view) also has it's issues, especially for those who can't get a look in. Yes, if we got rid of money overnight we'd still have jealousy, selfishness, anger, control freakery...well all the emotions really. Would we still have the extreme difference between the 'worth' of one individual and another though.?Would we still have a situation where those who really add 'value' to our lives don't get rewarded fairly and recognised for it? I suppose you could argue that the control 'they' have using money is better than having anarchy. However that all hinges on how much 'they' take the piss. I wonder if any 'commune' has succeeded in making it work on a small scale. Maybe with one person in it.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:48:43 GMT
Post by Telemachus on Jun 22, 2017 10:48:43 GMT
Yes most definitely a nasty and quite mad dictator. That's the thing, in order to think that eliminating money is a good thing, you'd have to be barking mad! I think the fondness for the dollar is just a regional thing, the same with their neighbours Vietnam. Which is odd considering how the USA bombed the shit out of Vietnam. Same when we went to Burma/Myanmar, although there, they have an obsession with dollar notes being pristine. They don't want crumpled or well-used notes! Ha ha, I don't think it's mad to wish for a world with no money, it's just mad to believe it could be achieved whilst there are greedy bastards everywhere. The trouble is that trying to force people to be nice to each other and share (communist view) doesn't really work. Letting people chose to be nice to each other and share (Tory view) also has it's issues, especially for those who can't get a look in. Yes, if we got rid of money overnight we'd still have jealousy, selfishness, anger, control freakery...well all the emotions really. Would we still have the extreme difference between the 'worth' of one individual and another though.?Would we still have a situation where those who really add 'value' to our lives don't get rewarded fairly and recognised for it? I suppose you could argue that the control 'they' have using money is better than having anarchy. However that all hinges on how much 'they' take the piss. I wonder if any 'commune' has succeeded in making it work on a small scale. Maybe with one person in it. If you removed money, things would revert to what they were before money was mainstream - ie it would be all about land ownership and control - controlled by force, of course. You have a false idea about "innate good" in people or whatever. It's never been the case in the past and I doubt it will ever be the case in the future, so get over it! Humans are humans, with all their faults (depending on your idea of perfection). It will only make you depressed wishing for what can never be! Anyway, it is all your god's fault because he made us in his image, attitude included! Allegedly.
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Jun 22, 2017 10:58:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2017 10:58:48 GMT
Ha ha, I don't think it's mad to wish for a world with no money, it's just mad to believe it could be achieved whilst there are greedy bastards everywhere. The trouble is that trying to force people to be nice to each other and share (communist view) doesn't really work. Letting people chose to be nice to each other and share (Tory view) also has it's issues, especially for those who can't get a look in. Yes, if we got rid of money overnight we'd still have jealousy, selfishness, anger, control freakery...well all the emotions really. Would we still have the extreme difference between the 'worth' of one individual and another though.?Would we still have a situation where those who really add 'value' to our lives don't get rewarded fairly and recognised for it? I suppose you could argue that the control 'they' have using money is better than having anarchy. However that all hinges on how much 'they' take the piss. I wonder if any 'commune' has succeeded in making it work on a small scale. Maybe with one person in it. If you removed money, things would revert to what they were before money was mainstream - ie it would be all about land ownership and control - controlled by force, of course. You have a false idea about "innate good" in people or whatever. It's never been the case in the past and I doubt it will ever be the case in the future, so get over it! Humans are humans, with all their faults (depending on your idea of perfection). It will only make you depressed wishing for what can never be! Anyway, it is all your god's fault because he made us in his image, attitude included! Allegedly. Which God is that then Nick? Actually I do have a faith of sorts but I don't pretend to know or understand how it works. All I know is that despite all the depressing shit, which to be fair is man made, it's a wonderful world (cue Gazza) and one which we were probably supposed to enjoy. Boating helps!
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Jun 24, 2017 8:44:28 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Jun 24, 2017 8:44:28 GMT
I'm not convinced having no money would end the world you describe of the rich controlling the poor.
This has always gone on in our history. The rich always lived in castles and the peasants lived in straw houses. Getting paid with food and such like.
I'm not sure money created this world but just pure greed.
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Jun 24, 2017 9:07:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2017 9:07:09 GMT
I'm not convinced having no money would end the world you describe of the rich controlling the poor. This has always gone on in our history. The rich always lived in castles and the peasants lived in straw houses. Getting paid with food and such like. I'm not sure money created this world but just pure greed. I agree but I was pointing out how money has become such a powerful tool in the power and control game. The sad thing is that money has become the main thing to strive for rather than enjoying quality time with each other. There is some truth in the phrase 'the best things in life are free'.
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