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Post by faffer on Jun 28, 2017 16:24:31 GMT
Sounds like a bloody great adventure John. Even with a few problems. I can tell you are tired, your spelling is as bad as mine on a good day lol. Keep up with the kip, dont want any accidents with tiredness. You take care and enjoy the rest of the trip. Great pics and write BTW
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Post by patty on Jun 28, 2017 18:21:06 GMT
Beautiful pictures....make sure you get some rest and enjoy your time out on her....fab
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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 29, 2017 8:42:30 GMT
Great pics john and a bit of drama to boot. This is a pic of our crossing the channel in an old dutch barge and you ca just make out the temp fuel drum lashed to the funnel. This was a requirement by the insurnace company for the crossing as they didnt trust the internal tank.
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Post by kris on Jun 29, 2017 9:51:52 GMT
Sorry to hear of your troubles john, sounds like you all coped alright. Thanks for sharing the adventure, at least it will give you a few tales to tell in the bar.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 29, 2017 10:22:56 GMT
Great pics john and a bit of drama to boot. This is a pic of our crossing the channel in an old dutch barge and you ca just make out the temp fuel drum lashed to the funnel. This was a requirement by the insurnace company for the crossing as they didnt trust the internal tank. Did something go wrong with the posting of your picture, or is it only a local problem here ? I've heard the story of insurances before, as they've had quite a few problems due to boats crossing the Channel with engine failure, 9 times out of 10 due to the fuel sloshing around in the tanks, washing all the shit of the bottom of the tank and blocking the filters over and over again. A seperate- and really clean tank will give a much better chance for a trouble free crossing. Peter.
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Post by Saltysplash on Jun 29, 2017 12:13:38 GMT
Great pics john and a bit of drama to boot. This is a pic of our crossing the channel in an old dutch barge and you ca just make out the temp fuel drum lashed to the funnel. This was a requirement by the insurnace company for the crossing as they didnt trust the internal tank. Did something go wrong with the posting of your picture, or is it only a local problem here ? I've heard the story of insurances before, as they've had quite a few problems due to boats crossing the Channel with engine failure, 9 times out of 10 due to the fuel sloshing around in the tanks, washing all the sh*t of the bottom of the tank and blocking the filters over and over again. A seperate- and really clean tank will give a much better chance for a trouble free crossing. Peter. Stupid thing didnt show for me either
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Post by JohnV on Jun 29, 2017 16:19:00 GMT
Just a quick update as fairly tuckered out. This morning first thing started pumping the contaminated diesel into 20 litre drums ...... 25 of them ..... Och !!! the bawbees !!! I didn't have enough drums so I just dumped the last 30 or 40 litres into the engine room bilge (at least I know that won't rust from the inside ) I will pump it into drums when I can get some more empties. I got the lid un-bolted but I didn't take it off until everyone had arrived as I know it is too heavy for me. The mystery as to why I was not aware of the problem immediately became clear when the lid was removed. (I couldn't understand how I had not seen it, as I drained off any water regularly, and saw no sign of bug) Sabina has a slight list to starboard (she always has had as she is slightly twisted along her length) but the sump and drain on the tank is on the port side. There is also a half inch lip where the sump was welded into the tank. The starboard (lower side) of the tank is at least 3 or 3 1/2" lower than the drain so I was never actually draining any but the top bit of the water/muck in the tank ....... the far corner was a breeding farm for fuel bug !!! There was inches of thick black slime and the diesel looked like thin pink blancmange. We (or rather Bryan did ) vacuumed out the tank, scrubbed it with biocide and put the 180 or so litres left in the spare drum into the tank. we got the engine fired up and I shot up to the Marina Office to pay ...... Jeeez they know how to wring blood from a stone £140 for two nights !!! ..... still I just needed somewhere and they had a space. We motored up to Ipswich Yacht Haven ..... still expensive but not as eyewatering as Woolverstone When I saw the berth we had been allocated I shuddered slightly as the cockup potential was huge .... amazingly I got in without any drama and dropped her fairly neatly into a small space ..... what is more with a large audience watching !!! and you know what normally happens then !!! It's been another tiring day and I am pretty well tuckered out ..... some piccies tomorrow (with possibly a video as Jay filmed us as we left Woolverstone)so g'night all
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2017 16:25:58 GMT
Just a quick update as fairly tuckered out. This morning first thing started pumping the contaminated diesel into 20 litre drums ...... 25 of them ..... Och !!! the bawbees !!! I didn't have enough drums so I just dumped the last 30 or 40 litres into the engine room bilge (at least I know that won't rust from the inside ) I will pump it into drums when I can get some more empties. I got the lid un-bolted but I didn't take it off until everyone had arrived as I know it is too heavy for me. The mystery as to why I was not aware of the problem immediately became clear when the lid was removed. (I couldn't understand how I had not seen it, as I drained off any water regularly, and saw no sign of bug) Sabina has a slight list to starboard (she always has had as she is slightly twisted along her length) but the sump and drain on the tank is on the port side. There is also a half inch lip where the sump was welded into the tank. The starboard (lower side) of the tank is at least 3 or 3 1/2" lower than the drain so I was never actually draining any but the top bit of the water/muck in the tank ....... the far corner was a breeding farm for fuel bug !!! There was inches of thick black slime and the diesel looked like thin pink blancmange. We (or rather Bryan did ) vacuumed out the tank, scrubbed it with biocide and put the 180 or so litres left in the spare drum into the tank. we got the engine fired up and I shot up to the Marina Office to pay ...... Jeeez they know how to wring blood from a stone £140 for two nights !!! ..... still I just needed somewhere and they had a space. We motored up to Ipswich Yacht Haven ..... still expensive but not as eyewatering as Woolverstone When I saw the berth we had been allocated I shuddered slightly as the cockup potential was huge .... amazingly I got in without any drama and dropped her fairly neatly into a small space ..... what is more with a large audience watching !!! and you know what normally happens then !!! It's been another tiring day and I am pretty well tuckered out ..... some piccies tomorrow (with possibly a video as Jay filmed us as we left Woolverstone)so g'night all Well done John, you and your mates are doing a cracking job, fair play to you all, it sounds hard work and I'm a fair few years behind you! 🚢⚓🍻👍
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Post by patty on Jun 29, 2017 17:44:10 GMT
Well at least you have started your trip...sounds fairly crazy....keep going and get lots of rest in-between manic moments..enjoy your trip
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Post by bargemast on Jun 29, 2017 17:51:57 GMT
Thanks for the good news John, it's great that you found the real cause of the problem, and now with a clean tank and clean fuel, your engine will, be more than happy to drink the stuff, and that without spluttering and coughing.
I'm happy your crew is back, try to get a good rest before you set off again.
All the very best,
Peter.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 30, 2017 7:54:25 GMT
Another quiet day on board, everyone went home last night.
The tug skipper has a run to Goole in about a week's time (weather permitting) so the latest plan is for me (with a crewman to help) to motor down to the end of the Harwich separation scheme and meet the tug there and go in convoy with him to the Humber. That way if there are more problems we could pick up a tow.
It at least gives me a few days to clean the engine room (and come to that everywhere else where diesel has been tracked round) , retrieve my tools from the bilge (after I have pumped out the last of the contaminated fuel.)
I have been looking at the cost of getting the fuel cleaned but the couple of prices I have heard so far make it uneconomic, not much less than the commercial rate for new fuel.
I have yet to receive the video from Jay ( he filmed us leaving, from the jetty at Woolverstone) so no piccies yet
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Post by bargemast on Jun 30, 2017 8:42:24 GMT
Another quiet day on board, everyone went home last night. The tug skipper has a run to Goole in about a week's time (weather permitting) so the latest plan is for me (with a crewman to help) to motor down to the end of the Harwich separation scheme and meet the tug there and go in convoy with him to the Humber. That way if there are more problems we could pick up a tow. It at least gives me a few days to clean the engine room (and come to that everywhere else where diesel has been tracked round) , retrieve my tools from the bilge (after I have pumped out the last of the contaminated fuel.) I have been looking at the cost of getting the fuel cleaned but the couple of prices I have heard so far make it uneconomic, not much less than the commercial rate for new fuel. I have yet to receive the video from Jay ( he filmed us leaving, from the jetty at Woolverstone) so no piccies yet This sounds good John, the rush is gone, and you'll have a couple of days to do some cleaning in your engine room, and get some rest. That way you can start the next leg of the trip fresh, and if your mate the tug skipper will do his tow to Goole, you'll have someone to look after your well being if there would be another problem, the idea of having someone nearby who could give you a tow will give you more peace of mind. Getting a company in to do the fuel cleaning is only worth it if there's more than 1000 L to do, if not as you say, there won't be much difference in buying new fuel. Good luck with the cleaning and sorting of the E.R. Peter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2017 9:03:28 GMT
We'll take the old fuel from you! Just let it settle for a month then siphon off the 95% above the water-dirt line. Funnel and filter, easy peasy.
Now if only you had opened the tank 2 months ago...
I got in our engine 'ole yesterday for an hour and scrubbed the floor with cream cleaner and a brush, J-cloths and warm water and dried it with kitchen towel. Changed the engine oil again, just for fun (last time a week ago in Wigan). Always good to see black oil come out and the golden liquid go in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2017 9:11:56 GMT
We'll take the old fuel from you! Just let it settle for a month then siphon off the 95% above the water-dirt line. Funnel and filter, easy peasy. Now if only you had opened the tank 2 months ago... I got in our engine 'ole yesterday for an hour and scrubbed the floor with cream cleaner and a brush, J-cloths and warm water and dried it with kitchen towel. Changed the engine oil again, just for fun (last time a week ago in Wigan). Always good to see black oil come out and the golden liquid go in. I purposely kept our deck boards down so you were spared the horror that is our engine 'ole
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 30, 2017 11:51:04 GMT
I was a bit miffed to see a crack in one of the 'flying buttresses' which supports the rectangular frame the engine sits on, and another crack in one long side of the frame. Extra investigation on a sunny day, and a bit of welding I suppose... I took photos so can be seen without having to clamber in, that's a great thing about digi-cameras.
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