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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 4, 2017 15:43:48 GMT
Although I would tend to agree with that, it's a symptom, rather than a cause. The problem is the housing situation in the UK, which forces people who would rather live in flats or houses than on boats to live on boats. The answer is to forget the dated idea of "green belts" and fill fields up with as many houses as it takes to house the population. I sort of agree but I can't with the idea of filling green belts, they are what stops a continuous urban sprawl ...... well slows it down a bit at least Well, if the Powers That Be insist on filling up the country with every Tom, Dick and Harry from Romania, Poland, Lithuania etc simply because they are acclimatised to working for lower wages, then the Powers That Be are just going to have to build houses for them in the places where they live in order to do the work available. If this means parks, fields, or filling in canals and building on that, then that's what has to happen.
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Post by JohnV on Jul 4, 2017 15:46:03 GMT
I sort of agree but I can't with the idea of filling green belts, they are what stops a continuous urban sprawl ...... well slows it down a bit at least Well, if the Powers That Be insist on filling up the country with every Tom, Dick and Harry from Romania, Poland, Lithuania etc simply because they are acclimatised to working for lower wages, then the Powers That Be are just going to have to build houses for them in the places where they live in order to do the work available. If this means parks, fields, or filling in canals and building on that, then that's what has to happen. I think we have somewhat similar views as to the value of unrestricted immigration
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 4, 2017 15:46:19 GMT
Although I would tend to agree with that, it's a symptom, rather than a cause. The problem is the housing situation in the UK, which forces people who would rather live in flats or houses than on boats to live on boats. The answer is to forget the dated idea of "green belts" and fill fields up with as many houses as it takes to house the population. Yes I agree it's a symptom. I'd rather brownfield land was used for housing first, there is loads of it around the midlands. But we are where we are and the reason why static boats line the Regent's but there are no caravans in Hyde Park is simply because one can get away with the former but not the latter. I support CRT in attempting to make the former more difficult. And do you think the displaced boater would then simply vanish into thin air? For somebody who went to a proper school, you really are as thick as two short planks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:46:38 GMT
It's quite clear what you stated Nick, "4 hours ago Telemachus said: ...I want the canals to be a historic transport and leisure system" and "not a linear housing estate". So the only person on here lying is you. Your lying to get out of a hole your mouth dropped you into.
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Post by lollygagger on Jul 4, 2017 15:46:42 GMT
Resorting to misquoting then name calling on the basis of your misquotes isn't a sign of intelligence, it's pure bluster. I have some respect for you Nick, but sometimes you make it damn hard to maintain and you've just bitten another chunk out of it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jul 4, 2017 15:47:53 GMT
Well, if the Powers That Be insist on filling up the country with every Tom, Dick and Harry from Romania, Poland, Lithuania etc simply because they are acclimatised to working for lower wages, then the Powers That Be are just going to have to build houses for them in the places where they live in order to do the work available. If this means parks, fields, or filling in canals and building on that, then that's what has to happen. I think we have somewhat similar views as to the value of unrestricted immigration Yes, there's a word for people like us... "racist".
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 15:48:33 GMT
Although I would tend to agree with that, it's a symptom, rather than a cause. The problem is the housing situation in the UK, which forces people who would rather live in flats or houses than on boats to live on boats. The answer is to forget the dated idea of "green belts" and fill fields up with as many houses as it takes to house the population. Yes I agree it's a symptom. I'd rather brownfield land was used for housing first, there is loads of it around the midlands. But we are where we are and the reason why static boats line the Regent's but there are no caravans in Hyde Park is simply because one can get away with the former but not the latter. I support CRT in attempting to make the former more difficult. Just to correct your thick comment about the regents, it's a no mooring zone. Always has been. Stupid boy.....
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 4, 2017 15:53:11 GMT
Yes I agree it's a symptom. I'd rather brownfield land was used for housing first, there is loads of it around the midlands. But we are where we are and the reason why static boats line the Regent's but there are no caravans in Hyde Park is simply because one can get away with the former but not the latter. I support CRT in attempting to make the former more difficult. I just wish they would restrict their often over enthusiastic enforcement to areas where there actually is a problem rather than to areas where there is not. As I said earlier, it seems to be a "one size fits all" attitude which doesn't really help. I suppose that's because common sense is not very common I think they do that to some extent, but the trouble is that if they do as you suggest, the people being targeted in the hotspots will bleat that it's so unfair that they are being hassled whilst Joe Blogs on the upper reaches of the BCN is left alone. SO UNFAIR! They can't win!
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 4, 2017 15:55:46 GMT
Yes I agree it's a symptom. I'd rather brownfield land was used for housing first, there is loads of it around the midlands. But we are where we are and the reason why static boats line the Regent's but there are no caravans in Hyde Park is simply because one can get away with the former but not the latter. I support CRT in attempting to make the former more difficult. And do you think the displaced boater would then simply vanish into thin air? For somebody who went to a proper school, you really are as thick as two short planks. By providing cheap accommodation in somewhere like London you (they) are just perpetuating the centralisation of people and jobs in one city. If workers couldn't be found because accommodation was too expensive, employers would be forced to move their businesses out of London and spread jobs and prosperity over the whole country. This would be a GOOD THING!
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 4, 2017 15:57:52 GMT
It's quite clear what you stated Nick, "4 hours ago Telemachus said: ...I want the canals to be a historic transport and leisure system" and "not a linear housing estate". So the only person on here lying is you. Your lying to get out of a hole your mouth dropped you into. Are you really too thick to realise that "not a linear housing estate" is is not the same as "don't want live aboards on the canals". Surely even you aren't that thick, I think you must just be playing me. But then again..
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 4, 2017 16:01:11 GMT
Resorting to misquoting then name calling on the basis of your misquotes isn't a sign of intelligence, it's pure bluster. I have some respect for you Nick, but sometimes you make it damn hard to maintain and you've just bitten another chunk out of it. But it is you who misquoted me. You may have whatever respect for me you wish, or none. It doesn't change the fact that you are persisting in misrepresenting me. For clarity I will once again say that not wanting the canals to be a linear housing estate does not mean I don't want liveaboard s on the canals. Is that clear enough yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 16:01:33 GMT
And do you think the displaced boater would then simply vanish into thin air? For somebody who went to a proper school, you really are as thick as two short planks. By providing cheap accommodation in somewhere like London you (they) are just perpetuating the centralisation of people and jobs in one city. If workers couldn't be found because accommodation was too expensive, employers would be forced to move their businesses out of London and spread jobs and prosperity over the whole country. This would be a GOOD THING! You really are a thick twunt. Your mouth needs to slow down, it's outpacing your brain. A lot of the cheap accommodation in London is for the likes of police, nurses, Drs etc. Should all the hospitals and police stations, fire stations etc be moved out of London?
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Post by Telemachus on Jul 4, 2017 16:03:34 GMT
By providing cheap accommodation in somewhere like London you (they) are just perpetuating the centralisation of people and jobs in one city. If workers couldn't be found because accommodation was too expensive, employers would be forced to move their businesses out of London and spread jobs and prosperity over the whole country. This would be a GOOD THING! A lot of the cheap accommodation in London is for the likes of police, nurses, Drs etc. Should all the hospitals and police stations, fire stations etc be moved out of London? No, there is a case for social housing for such public service workers. But even you can't be stupid enough to claim that everyone living on a boat in London is a public service worker. Most aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 16:04:49 GMT
It's quite clear what you stated Nick, "4 hours ago Telemachus said: ...I want the canals to be a historic transport and leisure system" and "not a linear housing estate". So the only person on here lying is you. Your lying to get out of a hole your mouth dropped you into. Are you really too thick to realise that "not a linear housing estate" is is not the same as "don't want live aboards on the canals". Surely even you aren't that thick, I think you must just be playing me. But then again.. Your just a fuckin lying twat nick. I know exactly what you mean, and so do you, but your gutless, and don't even have the bottle to stand by your convictions. I doubt that yellow stripe up your back has a no parking sign 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 16:06:04 GMT
A lot of the cheap accommodation in London is for the likes of police, nurses, Drs etc. Should all the hospitals and police stations, fire stations etc be moved out of London? No, there is a case for social housing for such public service workers. But even you can't be stupid enough to claim that everyone living on a boat in London is a public service worker. Most aren't. Oh, have we now been steered towards boats again? Lol lol. Your such a bullshit merchant.
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