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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 6:30:10 GMT
I just got a PM from CDS quote.. "See you soon richard" What an utter penis, flings nasty personal posts out, and starts laughable vaigue threats when he gets it back. Maybe he wants to apologise to you over a nice cup of tea... Seriously though, this is getting a bit silly. As far as I can see there are a few of us who frequent the MK area. It's probably best not to try and wind each other up as there is a high chance of bumping into each other...well not literally... CDS, what do you want to get out of this forum? On one hand you say you support the NBTA but on the other you seem to have a problem with boats which don't move much. If I am correct, you only move between Stoke Bruerne and Leighton Buzzard. That is just over the 20 miles CRT suggest to keep boaters off their radar. Maybe the stress CRT are causing is affecting us more than I thought. Thanks for your considered post and can I please answer your points one by one,firstly a little background to myself and can I ask that you don't take it as some sort of "Look at Me,Johnny Bigbollocks"rubbish because its far from that.I already gave my story on the thread "How did you get into Boating"today I run a couple of businesses and own a load of property here in Milton Keynes,I have the Aston and the Jaguar and all the rest of the shit but I firmly believe that for me nothing has really changed as I am still the same person I was when I was homeless and penniless,indeed in a consumer society you fall for such frippery then you die,am I a sad bloke thinking that way ?probably. I don't want anything in particular from the forum,like yourself I want to hear debate and opinion and preferably contrary to my own,I supported its setting up on the other channel when Delta9 muted the idea and indeed I have tried to keep it alive by posting content and starting threads when initially there was none and I am glad things are growing.I support the NBTA and I am a member not for anything they can do for me,I need nothing,but because we need an Alternative Narrative to CRT and they at the moment provide it.I have no problems with boats not moving far enough, just as long as they move,I don't want to see linear settlements on the towpath and when the NBTA advocate that,which I don't believe they will,I will no longer be a member.As for my own boats movement I ensure it always exceeds CRT recommendations,I don't find it stressful and I must say when I see others that don't do likewise I wonder how they get away with it,but I am pleased that they do.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 6:37:14 GMT
Fuckwit, so what did the pm you sent to tadworth mean then.
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Post by JohnV on May 20, 2016 6:44:23 GMT
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Post by JohnV on May 20, 2016 6:47:47 GMT
sorry missed one make that +4
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 6:57:21 GMT
You posted in the thread Paul if you don't wont to be included don't post in the thread. As for fuckwit, if he thinks he can talk to people like he does and get away with it. Then he deserves what he gets. If he can't take it he shouldn't give it. I'll say the same thing to his face if I see him in the flesh again. Kris, I have almost always gotten along with you. I can't recall ever arguing with you on either forum. I actually read all about your trials and tribulations on CWDF, followed your story so to say, and I was interested enough in your plight to ask you about your progress a few days ago. I never said anything judgmental about your situation and I certainly never criticized you. The fact is, you seem like a pretty decent chap. With that in mind, be objective and understand why you and Tadworth repeatedly quoting my simple question to get in your digs at cds was not a cool thing to do. You know it and I know it so don't give a bunch of "don't post in the thread crap", okay? This is an internet forum and you are getting way too excited about this whole perceived insult to yourself. CDS can be a dick at times. I know that because I'm a real dick at times too. Do you honestly think that following him around and calling him names is going to change him? There's and old saying about "Keep your friends close; and your enemies closer." Considering how diametrically opposed to each the two of you are, you should welcome debate with him, regardless of how it might aggravate you, because it gives you insight into what your opposition is thinking, and it gives you practice in defending your position. CDS is your sparring partner and he is helping prepare you for when you want to win people to your side in the real world. Remember, in the real world winning an argument or debate is much less important that convincing people to come over to your side. Okay, I've re-read this a few times and I don't see anything judgmental or critical in there, so, namaste, Dude. Peace, love and happiness - everything is tubular. Thanks for your comments regarding myself,I think you have the debate aspect of Forums in a nutshell.The crazy thing in all of this is that I am not really opposed to Kris in any issue that matters and I genuinely had no idea of his situation having been banned from CWDF for some time,indeed it was only the removal of cookies that allowed me back in whereupon I was banned a second time for stating DHUTCH was using CWDF to embellish his CV,indeed the night he joined Thunderboat I had a go at him on this very site.So as I say I knew nothing of his situation.When you set aside all tha name calling the only difference is that I don't believe things are as bad as Kris and Tadworth make out regarding CRT and this supposed anti CC agenda of theirs,I believe like many others a lot of it is conjecture and supposition and doesn't reflect the experiences of most boaters.I have asked for evidence and it can't be supplied,least not in the numbers to support their argument and the abuse then starts,which is a great pity because you'd like to be convinced.Kris then says I don't have to convince you,where do you take that response,I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 6:59:34 GMT
Fuckwit, so what did the pm you sent to tadworth mean then. It meant exactly what it said chap.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 7:03:53 GMT
It's alright playing to the gallery, you have been very rude and insulting to myself as well as tadworth. You don't like it when get it back so you shouldn't give it. Fuckwit.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 7:07:11 GMT
You think it's alright to say some of the things you have said. You can fuck right off, I don't give a fuck who you think you are, or what cars or property you have. Fuckwit.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 7:08:02 GMT
Do you want to send me a pm threatening to come and see me. Fuckwit.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 7:13:37 GMT
It's alright playing to the gallery, you have been very rude and insulting to myself as well as tadworth. You don't like it when get it back so you shouldn't give it. Fuckwit. You and I kris first parted ways when I poked fun at your reading material,it was in jest and I apologised when I saw you were upset,I couldn't do any more.You didn't have the good grace to accept that apology and move on and instead took it as part of some wider attack on you and your situation which it wasn't.Insults have flown between us,I have played no small part in that and here we are.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 7:17:49 GMT
Fuckwit you are an argumentative prick. With aa inflated opinion of yourself. You think everybody should pay attention to what you say. Fuckoff. You started the insults so you are getting them back. You will always be fuckwit to me.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 7:20:01 GMT
Do you want to send me a pm threatening to come and see me. Fuckwit. You are a bully mate taking advantage of an unmoderated forum,your conduct detracts from your argument.As regards Tadworth he has made some unpalatable comments,he can have the opportunity to put them to me face to face.I shan't be making any other comments after this one,so I wish you good luck
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 7:21:11 GMT
CDS, in your last two detailed posts you have referenced CRT...
"I support the NBTA and I am a member not for anything they can do for me,I need nothing,but because we need an Alternative Narrative to CRT"
" don't believe things are as bad as Kris and Tadworth make out regarding CRT and this supposed anti CC agenda of theirs"
Where do YOU think CRT are out of line then? What threats do you see while CRT are in the seat of control?
I presume (maybe wrongly) you have reservations about CRT as you are supporting the NBTA, but then you say you don't see a threat to CC'ers.
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Post by kris on May 20, 2016 7:32:09 GMT
Do you want to send me a pm threatening to come and see me. Fuckwit. You are a bully mate taking advantage of an unmoderated forum,your conduct detracts from your argument.As regards Tadworth he has made some unpalatable comments,he can have the opportunity to put them to me face to face.I shan't be making any other comments after this one,so I wish you good luck Yes you like an unmoderated forum when it's you doing the insulting, how is sending a pm threatening to "see someone soon" not bullying. I don't have an argument, I'm not on here to try and gain anyone's support. so do you want to make a derogatory comment about me or my reading material now? Fuckwit.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 7:49:09 GMT
CDS, in your last two detailed posts you have referenced CRT... "I support the NBTA and I am a member not for anything they can do for me,I need nothing,but because we need an Alternative Narrative to CRT" " don't believe things are as bad as Kris and Tadworth make out regarding CRT and this supposed anti CC agenda of theirs" Where do YOU think CRT are out of line then? What threats do you see while CRT are in the seat of control? I presume (maybe wrongly) you have reservations about CRT as you are supporting the NBTA, but then you say you don't see a threat to CC'ers. I genuinely think they are an organisation filled with the wrong sort of people and the actions of those people are creating a climate of fear amongst many boaters,witness the stupid crass comments of that manager labelling Liveaboards as Gits for example,I think they have gone out and recruited a load of graduates and tree huggers who are totally clueless in the main.Its that old management cliche that goes something along the lines of "management is the same no matter what field you work in,it requires the same skill set wherever".I don't believe it does and this is where I think CRT are flawed managerially. I think the main theatre of operation where they are really out of line is their attempts to seize peoples homes for not moving far enough,its outside the law,morally wrong and an outrage.NBTA have won these cases in London and I applaud them for that.I see all sorts of threats while CRT are in control just as I did when BW were in control,charging,maintenance, asset sales,even obscene salaries paid to staff but thankfully most of the possibilities ,fears,worries haven't materialised. I have reservations about any sort of monopoly but as I say,I don't think this agenda regarding CC,ers has materialised or if it even exists,you may follow this up with "YET" and I would say that may be fair comment. For most people its the climate of fear rather than any direct targeting and I hope that remains the case.
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