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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2016 15:08:47 GMT
I see the press are today reporting on another "dangerous dog" attack,this time in Northumberland.
Apparently a woman took the dog to a park which also contained a children's play area,she then took
the dogs muzzle off whereupon it promptly bit her.The dog then went on to attack 14 children amongst
scenes which witnesses have compared to a Terrorist Attack.The dog was later identified as a Staffordshire
Terrier and after a bystander wrestled it to the ground it is now in the custody of the Police while they attempt
to find the owner.Presumably the woman who removed the muzzle made herself scarce very quickly.
What is the problem with these lovely dogs, why is it always this Breed? I noticed only the other day that
there are several "free to a good home" on Gumtree and Rescue centres seem to be filled with them also.
Has the breed been effectively destroyed by interbreeding and crossbreeding and these idiots on council
estates attempting to breed aggression into the dog.I think it would be a very brave man or woman that
gave a home to these dogs on Gumtree,you just don't know what your buying
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Post by Mr Stabby on May 19, 2016 19:08:35 GMT
This story is more about dangerous Geordies than dangerous dogs.
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Post by bills on May 20, 2016 7:57:00 GMT
Dog breed designed to bite - bites.
Who'da thought it?
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Post by peterboat on May 20, 2016 9:19:58 GMT
My son in law has a staffy Zena a more loving little dog you couldnt hope to find! its the owners that are the problem
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 10:04:07 GMT
Dog breed designed to bite - bites. Who'da thought it? This from wiki. Before the 19th century, bloodsports such as bull baiting, bear baiting and cock fighting were common. Bulls brought to market were set upon by dogs as a way of tenderizing the meat and providing entertainment for the spectators; and dog fights with bears, bulls and other animals were often organised as entertainment for both royalty and commoners. Early Bull and Terriers were not bred to resemble the companion animals of today, but for the characteristic known as gameness, with the pitting of dogs against bear or bull and exotic animals testing this attribute along with the strength and skill of the dog. Landrace working dogs crossbred with bulldogs provided the ancestral foundation stock for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. This ancestor is traditionally known as a "Bull Terrier", believed to be around 200 years old by the time of the early 21st century, and is rather a class of races than a particular breed. These bloodsports were officially eliminated in 1835 as Britain began to introduce animal welfare laws. Since dogfights were cheaper to organise and far easier to conceal from the law than bull or bear baits, bloodsport proponents turned to pitting their dogs against each other instead. Dog fighting was used as both a bloodsport (often involving gambling) and a way to continue to test the quality of their stock. Clandestine dog fighting took place in pockets of Britain and America. Dogs were released into a pit, and the last dog still fighting (or occasionally, the last dog surviving) was recognised as the winner. The quality of pluckiness or "gameness" was highly prized; a dog that gave up during a fight was reviled as a cur. As time went on the modern breed has become one with a temperament suitable for a pet and companion. It gained respectability, becoming a dog worthy to show, and was accepted by The Kennel Club of the United Kingdom as the Staffordshire Bull Terrier in 1935.[9] |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 10:06:02 GMT
And for ours which is often held in lower esteem.
The Rottweiler is one of the oldest of herding breeds.[6] With a history possibly dating back to the Roman Empire,[7] the Rottweiler may be a descendant of ancient Roman drover dogs; a mastiff-type dog that was a dependable, rugged dog with great intelligence and guarding instincts. During their quest to conquer Europe, the Roman legion traveled in large numbers across the continent. The non-existence of refrigeration meant the soldiers had to bring herds of cattle with them on their excursions for food. These drover dogs were not only used to keep the herds of cattle together, but to guard the supply stock at night. Around A.D. 74 the Roman army travelled across the Alps and into what is now southern Germany. For the next two centuries the Roman drover dogs were continually used in herding and driving cattle for trade even after the Romans were driven out of the area by the Swabians.[8]
A town in this region was eventually given the name Rottweil.[8] It became an important trade center and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth by driving the cattle to market and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals.[8] The dogs are said to have been used by traveling butchers at markets during the Middle Ages to guard money pouches tied around their necks.[9] The dogs eventually came to be called Rottweiler Metzgerhunds, or butcher dogs.[8] As railroads became the primary method for moving stock to market, the need for the breed declined, as did the number of Rottweilers. The number of Rottweilers diminished so severely that by 1882 in a dog show in Heilbronn, there was only one very poor representative of the breed.[8]
The buildup to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. During the First and Second World Wars, Rottweilers were put into service in various roles, including as messenger, ambulance, draught, and guard dogs.
The Deutscher Rottweiler-Klub (DRK, German Rottweiler Club), the first Rottweiler club in Germany, was founded on 13 January 1914, and followed by the creation of the Süddeutscher Rottweiler-Klub (SDRK, South German Rottweiler Club) on 27 April 1915 and eventually became the IRK (International Rottweiler Club). The DRK counted around 500 Rottweilers, and the SDRK 3000 Rottweilers. The goals of the two clubs were different. The DRK aimed to produce working dogs and did not emphasise the morphology of the Rottweiler.
The various German Rottweiler Clubs amalgamated to form the Allgemeiner Deutscher Rottweiler Klub (ADRK, General German Rottweiler Club) in 1921. This was officially recorded in the register of clubs and associations at the district court of Stuttgart on 27 January 1924.[10] The ADRK is recognised worldwide as the home club of the Rottweiler.
In 1931 the Rottweiler was officially recognised by the American Kennel Club.[11] In 1936, Rottweilers were exhibited in Britain at Crufts. In 1966, a separate register was opened for the breed. In fact, in the mid-1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all-time high with it being the most registered dog by the American Kennel Club.[12] In 2013, the American Kennel Club ranked the Rottweiler as the 9th most popular purebreed in the United States.[13]
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 17:43:20 GMT
And for ours which is often held in lower esteem. The Rottweiler is one of the oldest of herding breeds.[6] With a history possibly dating back to the Roman Empire,[7] the Rottweiler may be a descendant of ancient Roman drover dogs; a mastiff-type dog that was a dependable, rugged dog with great intelligence and guarding instincts. During their quest to conquer Europe, the Roman legion traveled in large numbers across the continent. The non-existence of refrigeration meant the soldiers had to bring herds of cattle with them on their excursions for food. These drover dogs were not only used to keep the herds of cattle together, but to guard the supply stock at night. Around A.D. 74 the Roman army travelled across the Alps and into what is now southern Germany. For the next two centuries the Roman drover dogs were continually used in herding and driving cattle for trade even after the Romans were driven out of the area by the Swabians.[8] A town in this region was eventually given the name Rottweil.[8] It became an important trade center and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth by driving the cattle to market and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals.[8] The dogs are said to have been used by traveling butchers at markets during the Middle Ages to guard money pouches tied around their necks.[9] The dogs eventually came to be called Rottweiler Metzgerhunds, or butcher dogs.[8] As railroads became the primary method for moving stock to market, the need for the breed declined, as did the number of Rottweilers. The number of Rottweilers diminished so severely that by 1882 in a dog show in Heilbronn, there was only one very poor representative of the breed.[8] The buildup to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. During the First and Second World Wars, Rottweilers were put into service in various roles, including as messenger, ambulance, draught, and guard dogs. The Deutscher Rottweiler-Klub (DRK, German Rottweiler Club), the first Rottweiler club in Germany, was founded on 13 January 1914, and followed by the creation of the Süddeutscher Rottweiler-Klub (SDRK, South German Rottweiler Club) on 27 April 1915 and eventually became the IRK (International Rottweiler Club). The DRK counted around 500 Rottweilers, and the SDRK 3000 Rottweilers. The goals of the two clubs were different. The DRK aimed to produce working dogs and did not emphasise the morphology of the Rottweiler. The various German Rottweiler Clubs amalgamated to form the Allgemeiner Deutscher Rottweiler Klub (ADRK, General German Rottweiler Club) in 1921. This was officially recorded in the register of clubs and associations at the district court of Stuttgart on 27 January 1924.[10] The ADRK is recognised worldwide as the home club of the Rottweiler. In 1931 the Rottweiler was officially recognised by the American Kennel Club.[11] In 1936, Rottweilers were exhibited in Britain at Crufts. In 1966, a separate register was opened for the breed. In fact, in the mid-1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all-time high with it being the most registered dog by the American Kennel Club.[12] In 2013, the American Kennel Club ranked the Rottweiler as the 9th most popular purebreed in the United States.[13] Do you ever go on that forum "Hunting Life" it has some great information regarding both Working and Hunting Dogs and a free Veterinary Section also. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 18:13:08 GMT
And for ours which is often held in lower esteem. The Rottweiler is one of the oldest of herding breeds.[6] With a history possibly dating back to the Roman Empire,[7] the Rottweiler may be a descendant of ancient Roman drover dogs; a mastiff-type dog that was a dependable, rugged dog with great intelligence and guarding instincts. During their quest to conquer Europe, the Roman legion traveled in large numbers across the continent. The non-existence of refrigeration meant the soldiers had to bring herds of cattle with them on their excursions for food. These drover dogs were not only used to keep the herds of cattle together, but to guard the supply stock at night. Around A.D. 74 the Roman army travelled across the Alps and into what is now southern Germany. For the next two centuries the Roman drover dogs were continually used in herding and driving cattle for trade even after the Romans were driven out of the area by the Swabians.[8] A town in this region was eventually given the name Rottweil.[8] It became an important trade center and the descendants of the Roman cattle dogs proved their worth by driving the cattle to market and protecting the cattle from robbers and wild animals.[8] The dogs are said to have been used by traveling butchers at markets during the Middle Ages to guard money pouches tied around their necks.[9] The dogs eventually came to be called Rottweiler Metzgerhunds, or butcher dogs.[8] As railroads became the primary method for moving stock to market, the need for the breed declined, as did the number of Rottweilers. The number of Rottweilers diminished so severely that by 1882 in a dog show in Heilbronn, there was only one very poor representative of the breed.[8] The buildup to World War I saw a great demand for police dogs, and that led to a revival of interest in the Rottweiler. During the First and Second World Wars, Rottweilers were put into service in various roles, including as messenger, ambulance, draught, and guard dogs. The Deutscher Rottweiler-Klub (DRK, German Rottweiler Club), the first Rottweiler club in Germany, was founded on 13 January 1914, and followed by the creation of the Süddeutscher Rottweiler-Klub (SDRK, South German Rottweiler Club) on 27 April 1915 and eventually became the IRK (International Rottweiler Club). The DRK counted around 500 Rottweilers, and the SDRK 3000 Rottweilers. The goals of the two clubs were different. The DRK aimed to produce working dogs and did not emphasise the morphology of the Rottweiler. The various German Rottweiler Clubs amalgamated to form the Allgemeiner Deutscher Rottweiler Klub (ADRK, General German Rottweiler Club) in 1921. This was officially recorded in the register of clubs and associations at the district court of Stuttgart on 27 January 1924.[10] The ADRK is recognised worldwide as the home club of the Rottweiler. In 1931 the Rottweiler was officially recognised by the American Kennel Club.[11] In 1936, Rottweilers were exhibited in Britain at Crufts. In 1966, a separate register was opened for the breed. In fact, in the mid-1990s, the popularity of the Rottweiler reached an all-time high with it being the most registered dog by the American Kennel Club.[12] In 2013, the American Kennel Club ranked the Rottweiler as the 9th most popular purebreed in the United States.[13] Do you ever go on that forum "Hunting Life" it has some great information regarding both Working and Hunting Dogs and a free Veterinary Section also. I've not seen that, will give it a look though. He's been ace, much more biddable than the lab collie x we had previously. I will master posting pictures on here soon. Got a couple of crackers of the dwarf and bonehead together. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 18:25:54 GMT
Do you ever go on that forum "Hunting Life" it has some great information regarding both Working and Hunting Dogs and a free Veterinary Section also. I've not seen that, will give it a look though. He's been ace, much more biddable than the lab collie x we had previously. I will master posting pictures on here soon. Got a couple of crackers of the dwarf and bonehead together. You will really enjoy it,the boys on it are all good dog men,your in for a treat. I have two Jack Russells but run into a bit of hassle last year when both dogs emerged from a hedge fighting over a live rabbit which one had in its mouth. A couple of walkers took umbrage,I wasn't even working the dogs at the time and explained that the rabbit was legally vermin but the couple were far from happy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 19:02:52 GMT
I've not seen that, will give it a look though. He's been ace, much more biddable than the lab collie x we had previously. I will master posting pictures on here soon. Got a couple of crackers of the dwarf and bonehead together. You will really enjoy it,the boys on it are all good dog men,your in for a treat. I have two Jack Russells but run into a bit of hassle last year when both dogs emerged from a hedge fighting over a live rabbit which one had in its mouth. A couple of walkers took umbrage,I wasn't even working the dogs at the time and explained that the rabbit was legally vermin but the couple were far from happy. I've never been into rabbiting with dogs, we have always just shot the little fuckers  I say we, i would drive my mates pick up and he'd shoot, I'm a dreadful shot but half handy behind the wheel - we cant be good at everything. Just before harvest when it was difficult to get round the field margins in a vehicle we would go on foot with a rifle, again my role was fetching not shooting. I once made the mistake of going out in brand new not yet broken in boots, we got fuck all that evening All my shooting was done round the farm land surrounding Santa Pod, been away from it for too long  |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 19:21:13 GMT
You will really enjoy it,the boys on it are all good dog men,your in for a treat. I have two Jack Russells but run into a bit of hassle last year when both dogs emerged from a hedge fighting over a live rabbit which one had in its mouth. A couple of walkers took umbrage,I wasn't even working the dogs at the time and explained that the rabbit was legally vermin but the couple were far from happy. I've never been into rabbiting with dogs, we have always just shot the little fuckers I say we, i would drive my mates pick up and he'd shoot, I'm a dreadful shot but half handy behind the wheel - we cant be good at everything. Just before harvest when it was difficult to get round the field margins in a vehicle we would go on foot with a rifle, again my role was fetching not shooting. I once made the mistake of going out in brand new not yet broken in boots, we got fuck all that evening All my shooting was done round the farm land surrounding Santa Pod, been away from it for too long You from Northants originally? |
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2016 20:54:23 GMT
I've never been into rabbiting with dogs, we have always just shot the little fuckers I say we, i would drive my mates pick up and he'd shoot, I'm a dreadful shot but half handy behind the wheel - we cant be good at everything. Just before harvest when it was difficult to get round the field margins in a vehicle we would go on foot with a rifle, again my role was fetching not shooting. I once made the mistake of going out in brand new not yet broken in boots, we got fuck all that evening All my shooting was done round the farm land surrounding Santa Pod, been away from it for too long You from Northants originally? Originally? Never left me duck I've been away from shooting, not the county, time poor these days. My two year old daughter puts paid to any spare time I have |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 5:07:15 GMT
You from Northants originally? Originally? Never left me duck I've been away from shooting, not the county, time poor these days. My two year old daughter puts paid to any spare time I have Its a beautiful county,I love the local dialect,HE Bates was a Wellingborough man (Darling Buds of May,My Uncle Silas) The BBC did My Uncle Silas recently complete with local dialect, absolutely stunning production Radio 4 extra.You could have sat a child down and they would have understood and loved it.This beautiful English Language,Writers,Traditions,Country Pursuits,thats another reason I am for BREXIT because they are all slowly being destroyed and it makes you want to cry when you see it.I was in Wellingborough a week or two ago and mentioned HE Bates to a young local lad,he just looked at me blankly thinking "what the fuck is this idiot going on about" But it's not the kids fault because its not taught in these Multi Cultural Classrooms anymore and its a disgrace. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 6:23:34 GMT
Originally? Never left me duck I've been away from shooting, not the county, time poor these days. My two year old daughter puts paid to any spare time I have Its a beautiful county,I love the local dialect,HE Bates was a Wellingborough man (Darling Buds of May,My Uncle Silas) The BBC did My Uncle Silas recently complete with local dialect, absolutely stunning production Radio 4 extra.You could have sat a child down and they would have understood and loved it.This beautiful English Language,Writers,Traditions,Country Pursuits,thats another reason I am for BREXIT because they are all slowly being destroyed and it makes you want to cry when you see it.I was in Wellingborough a week or two ago and mentioned HE Bates to a young local lad,he just looked at me blankly thinking "what the fuck is this idiot going on about" But it's not the kids fault because its not taught in these Multi Cultural Classrooms anymore and its a disgrace. Nearly. Bates was a Rushden man like me. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._E._BatesHe has a road named after him in Rushden, I haven't though. His family were connected with most of the villages i used to drink in www.hebatescompanion.com/node/1148That My Uncle Silas is quite an old production, I remember that 20+ years ago when me and the old man didn't have a TV. The inhabitants of Wellingborough in the main are dull clueless fuckers that are unlikely to have any connection with the area, I blame the London overspill and Maggie's training and enterprise zone from 30 year and more ago, I work there so know it only too well |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2016 7:07:59 GMT
You put my arse in a sling over his birthplace,I had read he had a connection with Wellingborough and of course was a Northamptonshire man,
I seem to remember something about office based work but as regards being born in Rushden your of course totally right.I shall be routing through
my books all fucking day now trying to find out the Wellingborough connection or even if there is any.
As regards My Uncle Silas,it is indeed an old production,how old the Radio 4 Extra one was I have no idea,Albert Finney also played the character on
TV a while back.
As regards Wellingborough and its inhabitants,I daren't mention Corby ha ha ha.
What about the town of Northampton itself though,I was looking at some old pictures a while back and in my opinion it has been destroyed by pure
planning incompetence
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I say we, i would drive my mates pick up and he'd shoot, I'm a dreadful shot but half handy behind the wheel - we cant be good at everything.