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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 9:51:08 GMT
Looks like the Bridgewater maybe busier for as while. If this is going to be a long one its a shame they can't move all the January stoppages on the flight and aquaduct to now. canalrivertrust.org.uk/notice/11519/peak-forest-canal-marple-flightNotice Details From Date: 11th September 2017 at 09:00 To Date: until further notice Type: Navigation Closure Reason: Structure failure Description: We have had to close the lock flight at Marple until further notice due to subsidence at lock 15 . Our engineers will be carrying out inspections later today. We understand that this closure may disrupt your schedule. We are taking every step to look into this problem as soon as possible and we will keep you updated of our progress. Location: Peak Forest Canal Starts At: Lock 16 Ends At: Lock 1
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 11, 2017 13:51:44 GMT
Yes, it's time to start collecting £40/boat!
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Post by gigoguy on Sept 11, 2017 18:09:55 GMT
My mate is going to have a wander down tomorrow and find out what's happening from the engineers. He'll let me know what he finds out.
It's not likely going to affect the Bridgewater. To get to the peak forest from Manchester you go up the ashton. Which is an absolute shit hole of a canal. If you saw the clip about the rochdale it's as bad if not worse. So anyone doing the ring wouldn't stay on the ashton they'd go back from castlefield to trent and mersey. So it's really only going to affect anyone that's set off up the ashton today. And if they've done that in this wind and rain then good luck to them.
The lower peak is ok for most of the way for anyone already up there and has the time to wait till it's open.
Anyone that wants to come down and is worried about the return fee. You can join our convoy from Castlefield and we'll escort you through. If Sonny comes we'll protect you.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 11, 2017 18:32:48 GMT
I hear the working boats from the bolington festival have already turned around and are heading back to go up the Bridgewater.
An update would be good. it may be affecting both sides of the lock. it could be a long closure.
but if your the wrong side the only way around is up the bw and they will know it. it might actually help you get a reaction because they could be expecting some traffic to fleece.
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Post by gigoguy on Sept 11, 2017 22:11:27 GMT
Ah so they're going to be coming down heartbreak hill and the trent and mersey. It's a long way round but I'm going the other way so we'll probably meet.
Do you have contact with any of them? They probably wouldn't be charged if they're show boats or if they register with CaRT as a boni fide return from a festival boat. Not that they should have to and the fact that CaRT are breaking all confidentiality rules by passing on that information no withstanding. But if they have paid or are asked to pay I'd love to know.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 14, 2017 12:10:42 GMT
no I don't know them.
for those that may be interested. this is the latest.
Following initial surveys and investigations at the lock we have confirmed that alongside the subsidence evident on the lock side the towpath side wall has moved and the lock is narrowed. We have further work to do to confirm precisely the scale of the problem which will take place over the next week.
We are hopeful that the lock can be reopened, albeit with a reduced width for the time being. We expect that the restriction would mean that only boats up to 6’10” width will be able to pass through it. We will be able to confirm this when the more detailed survey has been completed. We also have work to do to repair the superficial damage to the lock side and install gauging at the top and bottom of the lock flight before we can reopen it. We’re currently estimating that the lock will reopen with a restriction around 22nd September 2017.
Looking towards a more permanent repair, we have started the work of developing a repair solution so that we can decide how best this might be taken forward.
We’ll provide a further update when we’ll be able to confirm the restricted reopening date
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Post by gigoguy on Sept 14, 2017 19:00:46 GMT
I got a call from my mate today. He said there are 3 sink holes at the side of the lock and the wall is bulging in slightly. There's no one working on it, it's just taped off and the next lock down is pad locked.
He said the sink holes have been filled in with stone chippings.
I don't know how wide 6'10" is. I know that's daft but i mean i don't know how wide my boat is. It's a 45' steel narrow boat. Are some wider than others?
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Post by Telemachus on Sept 14, 2017 20:09:26 GMT
I got a call from my mate today. He said there are 3 sink holes at the side of the lock and the wall is bulging in slightly. There's no one working on it, it's just taped off and the next lock down is pad locked. He said the sink holes have been filled in with stone chippings. I don't know how wide 6'10" is. I know that's daft but i mean i don't know how wide my boat is. It's a 45' steel narrow boat. Are some wider than others? Modern boats tend to be 6'10". Historic boats tend to be 7' or even 7'2". A couple of inches may not sound a lot, but if the boat is 7' and the lock is 6' 11 1/2" it ain't going to fit!
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Post by Trina on Sept 14, 2017 20:21:16 GMT
A couple of inches can be very important actually...😉
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Post by jam on Sept 14, 2017 21:04:03 GMT
Must admit this particular subsidence is unusual as there have been no subsidence issues around there for 200 years. It does make one wonder if the adjacent road has had more and heavier traffic than normal. Marple locks are generally some of the most stable locks on the network.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 15, 2017 4:12:23 GMT
I think we should send in Miss Marple to investigate why there's no-one doing any actual work there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2017 5:44:48 GMT
I got a call from my mate today. He said there are 3 sink holes at the side of the lock and the wall is bulging in slightly. There's no one working on it, it's just taped off and the next lock down is pad locked. He said the sink holes have been filled in with stone chippings. I don't know how wide 6'10" is. I know that's daft but i mean i don't know how wide my boat is. It's a 45' steel narrow boat. Are some wider than others? Modern boats tend to be 6'10". Historic boats tend to be 7' or even 7'2". A couple of inches may not sound a lot, but if the boat is 7' and the lock is 6' 11 1/2" it ain't going to fit! And the narrow boats originally using the system did not have cabins so their beam could be altered if a boat was a bit wide for a lock the sides could sometimes be pulled in. Not possible on a steel leisure boat or a workboat converted with a steel cabin so beam is more critical than it was when the canals were first built.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 15, 2017 6:39:27 GMT
I don't know how wide 6'10" is. I know that's daft but i mean i don't know how wide my boat is.
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Post by jam on Sept 26, 2017 21:40:36 GMT
With the latest news it looks as though the ring is to be severed for some time.
Update on 26/09/2017: Following the detailed survey that was completed last week we can see that the lock has become too narrow to be operated safely. This is very disappointing news. We are looking into the design of the repair and how this can be fitted into our works programme. It’s going to be a significant and complex project, and we need to work with our contracting partners to make sure that we can get the repair done quickly but at a reasonable cost too. It’s unlikely that we will be able to give any definitive information about reopening for a couple of weeks but we can see that the lock will be closed here for some time. We are sorry that we cannot be certain about a reopening timetable but will give an update as soon as we can.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 26, 2017 21:44:30 GMT
I wonder if they will bring forward the planned winter works and do it all together
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