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Post by bettina on Sept 12, 2017 13:42:41 GMT
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 12, 2017 16:15:00 GMT
Band 1 - £15.50 per meter/per month* – a visitor mooring site with mooring rings or bollards, in/within walking distance of a popular village/town/location with local amenities. There are good facilities at or nearby (including water, elsan, pumpout and rubbish facilities) and good public transport links (for example the site is close to a station/public transport routes or, in London, is in travel zone 1-4).
So for my boat (13m) that would work out at £2,418 a year. On my L3 mooring I pay £312 a year and about £420 for the mooring permit. Even at Brinklow Marina I was only paying £1,550 a year. Does anyone pay these ludicrous prices?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 16:24:11 GMT
A winter mooring can't have a yearly equivalent price.
But yes it does seem rather an expensive way to moor beside the towpath !!
As I understand it winter moorings are quite popular in areas with high house prices. I imagine CRT enforcement strategy may encourage uptake as well.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 12, 2017 18:30:48 GMT
I suppose so. Doesn't seem worth £200 a month to me to have a towpath mooring though. If I had to give up my L3 mooring and become a continuous cruiser then I'd sooner just move five miles twice a month. I suppose it's more for boaters who are tied to an area by employment, schooling etc. But then if CRT disapprove of that behaviour on the one hand, then why do they facilitate it on the other?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2017 18:37:48 GMT
But then if CRT disapprove of that behaviour on the one hand, then why do they facilitate it on the other? Exactly. The stupidity displayed by them on this ridiculous facility speaks volumes about their lack of any integrity.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 12, 2017 20:24:08 GMT
It's not bad for me. I choose a £6.50 site. It costs just under £200 for 3 months, about half the price of local marina. The annoying thing this year is that you can only use them until 16 March but unless you book the full 4 1/2 months, you get stung for a full month in March, despite only being able to use it for 16 days.
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Post by bettina on Sept 13, 2017 13:15:15 GMT
The bit I don't get is, paying £123/per month (ban 3 for our boat) and still having to move every couple of weeks to get water and off load rubbish. That's no different than what we do without a winter mooring. Plus, once you've got to a water point / rubbish facility, you'd then have to keep going to the next winding hole to turn the boat around to get back to you mooring. Or by using ban 3 (£257/per month for us) you might not need to move as much; but really who is gonna pay an extra £134 a month for water and rubbish facilities near the boat? It's not like they can make you move if your froze in, or if the winds are so high it makes navigating dangerous. We've had to call them in the past to say we'll be staying put as we've been froze in and they were ok about it. When the ice melted we moved on. I think we'll continue to do what we've done every winter so far, cruise every couple of weeks for water & waste, find a decent mooring near a shop with at least one side of the boat not in the shade to get as much sun for the solar array as possible & keep the £1,285 for ourselves! I just don't understand who this money grabbing scheme would appeal to other than the priates collecting the monies...crt!
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Post by thebfg on Sept 13, 2017 18:33:29 GMT
It's not bad for me. I choose a £6.50 site. It costs just under £200 for 3 months, about half the price of local marina. The annoying thing this year is that you can only use them until 16 March but unless you book the full 4 1/2 months, you get stung for a full month in March, despite only being able to use it for 16 days. maybe it's my ignorance, which wouldn't be a first but they are advertising 4.5 months so surely they are only charging for 4.5 months. or does it really cost 5 months.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 13, 2017 18:39:12 GMT
I do find it quite funny and ironic that if your not meeting the guidelines then your not allegable for a winter mooring.
surely that would resolve the issue and take them off the naughty list and immediately satisfy the board.
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Post by kris on Sept 13, 2017 18:56:19 GMT
I do find it quite funny and ironic that if your not meeting the guidelines then your not allegable for a winter mooring. surely that would resolve the issue and take them off the naughty list and immediately satisfy the board. thats exactly why, boats in enforcement aren't allowed a winter mooring.
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Post by thebfg on Sept 13, 2017 19:05:10 GMT
I do find it quite funny and ironic that if your not meeting the guidelines then your not allegable for a winter mooring. surely that would resolve the issue and take them off the naughty list and immediately satisfy the board. thats exactly why, boats in enforcement aren't allowed a winter mooring. I do realise, just find it funny.
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Post by kris on Sept 13, 2017 19:16:14 GMT
thats exactly why, boats in enforcement aren't allowed a winter mooring. I do realise, just find it funny. each enforcement officer will have KPI's to meet. These will mean they each have to put so many boats on limited liscences every year, also they will have targets for the number of boats they section 8 every year. They will have to meet these targets to get there performance bonus every year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2017 19:17:21 GMT
thats exactly why, boats in enforcement aren't allowed a winter mooring. I do realise, just find it funny. It's even more funny that they spend 7 months of the year threatening people if they overstay the 14 days, yet offer to allow it for 5 months if you pay the protection fees. This not only makes them look like hypocrites, it's obtaining monies by deceit at the very least. Twats.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 14, 2017 18:17:59 GMT
It's not bad for me. I choose a £6.50 site. It costs just under £200 for 3 months, about half the price of local marina. The annoying thing this year is that you can only use them until 16 March but unless you book the full 4 1/2 months, you get stung for a full month in March, despite only being able to use it for 16 days. maybe it's my ignorance, which wouldn't be a first but they are advertising 4.5 months so surely they are only charging for 4.5 months. or does it really cost 5 months. You 'enjoy' only paying for 4.5 months if you book from November until mid March. If you book a lesser period, incuding March, you have to pay for the whole of March, despite only being able to stay until the 16th.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2017 19:02:59 GMT
The option to take a winter mooring is available. I have met people who enjoy the freedom to stay put that taking such a mooring gives (at a cost).
I am pleased the system of extending all moorings to 14 days (unless signed otherwise) is continuing. Suits us as we like to shuffle on in winter, but if the weather gets yucky, it's nice to be able to wait for better weather before moving.
Rog
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