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Post by kris on Oct 16, 2017 17:11:12 GMT
Back to the topic of the thread, I think it depends on the outcome of the dinner chat tonight as to weither may stays or goes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 17:22:17 GMT
Back to the topic of the thread, I think it depends on the outcome of the dinner chat tonight as to weither may stays or goes. I think you're absolutely right. Can she break the deadlock? I don't think so because whatever she tries to do will split her party.
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Post by JohnV on Oct 16, 2017 17:34:55 GMT
Just in on the News - Hitachi train (Made in Durham) turns out to be abject failure. Should we nuke Durham or Tokyo? I feel like repeating Mrs Tabby's post about the Tornado doing the ton
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 18:21:28 GMT
Just in on the News - Hitachi train (Made in Durham) turns out to be abject failure. Should we nuke Durham or Tokyo? Don't care, but if you get a certain MD by going by the initials of KB I'd consider it collateral damage ...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2017 19:06:00 GMT
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Post by kris on Oct 16, 2017 19:30:52 GMT
thats just aload of soft soap.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 17, 2017 9:05:24 GMT
Interests rates have a habit of rising so those loans might come back and bankrupt the country Labours policy borrow borrow borrow then leave someone else to foot the huge bill!! Well the facts are that under the Conservatives the UK national debt has risen from £0.5 trillion in 2007 to £1.5 trillion in 2017 and because there has been no growth in the economy the critical debt as a percentage of GDP figure has also been rising, The Office for Budget Responsibility expects this figure to peak in the current financial year at 88%, the highest level since 1966. Easy one that the PFI debt wasnt on the books under Labour the Tories had to bring it onto the books and account for it Big rise in debt or what? Dont you remember it was on the news and all over the papers
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Post by peterboat on Oct 17, 2017 9:11:57 GMT
I don't disagree but the main point was it is definitely not a new problem and rocketed under labour. I also agree about mortgage, but I'm 37 ha a full time job and I cannot afford one either so will ending zero hours actually get many people onto the property ladder Clearly housing is a complex problem but the short answer is that we simply aren't building enough homes are we. Successive governments for a variety of reasons have failed here. No building houses isnt the answer control of the population is the way forward, Land is finite so is water etc we have to have land to grow food also water is needed for that and for us if the us gets to big a lot of us will die! Uncontrolled migration under Labour has caused so many problems and debts, why trust a party that broke the country so many times in the past?
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 17, 2017 9:28:10 GMT
Well the facts are that under the Conservatives the UK national debt has risen from £0.5 trillion in 2007 to £1.5 trillion in 2017 and because there has been no growth in the economy the critical debt as a percentage of GDP figure has also been rising, The Office for Budget Responsibility expects this figure to peak in the current financial year at 88%, the highest level since 1966. Easy one that the PFI debt wasnt on the books under Labour the Tories had to bring it onto the books and account for it Big rise in debt or what? Dont you remember it was on the news and all over the papers It was John Majors government that started this ball rolling and this conservative government are still piling on pfi debt for anything they can think of. The Treasury building upgrade is a PFI scheme, and HMRC is renting offices from a company registered in an offshore tax haven thanks to a PFI scheme. You really couldn't make this stuff up. Your Conservatives are using the budget deficit as an excuse for austerity despite the PFI debt being 4x as large and growing. It's seen as money for nothing despite unjustifiable high interest rates. This is not a party political problem, it's all parties squandering our money to finance vote winning policies. So really it's our problem and one that won't be solved by voting Labour OR conservative.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 17, 2017 9:36:37 GMT
Easy one that the PFI debt wasnt on the books under Labour the Tories had to bring it onto the books and account for it Big rise in debt or what? Dont you remember it was on the news and all over the papers It was John Majors government that started this ball rolling and this conservative government are still piling on pfi debt for anything they can think of. The Treasury building upgrade is a PFI scheme, and HMRC is renting offices from a company registered in an offshore tax haven thanks to a PFI scheme. You really couldn't make this stuff up. Your Conservatives are using the budget deficit as an excuse for austerity despite the PFI debt being 4x as large and growing. It's seen as money for nothing despite unjustifiable high interest rates. This is not a party political problem, it's all parties squandering our money to finance vote winning policies. So really it's our problem and one that won't be solved by voting Labour OR conservative. Dont get me wrong I agree with you PFI is a disaster John Majors use of it was very small under Blair it exploded but the debt wasnt accounted for! Its use should be stopped pronto as it is a disaster waiting to happen
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 17, 2017 9:41:25 GMT
It was John Majors government that started this ball rolling and this conservative government are still piling on pfi debt for anything they can think of. The Treasury building upgrade is a PFI scheme, and HMRC is renting offices from a company registered in an offshore tax haven thanks to a PFI scheme. You really couldn't make this stuff up. Your Conservatives are using the budget deficit as an excuse for austerity despite the PFI debt being 4x as large and growing. It's seen as money for nothing despite unjustifiable high interest rates. This is not a party political problem, it's all parties squandering our money to finance vote winning policies. So really it's our problem and one that won't be solved by voting Labour OR conservative. Dont get me wrong I agree with you PFI is a disaster John Majors use of it was very small under Blair it exploded but the debt wasnt accounted for! Its use should be stopped pronto as it is a disaster waiting to happen Won't happen while people like yourself prefer to use it as a cheap party political brick than take it seriously. By that I mean it's time to ignore the players and throw the brick at our political system. Leaving the EU is/was/might be a small start.
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Post by Saltysplash on Oct 17, 2017 10:07:34 GMT
Whatever our negotiators do, the EU elite will wish to punish us. Its in their interest to show any other member state that they will get the same treatment as the UK if they should try to leave. Any proposals we put to them will be blocked, slowed down or rejected. They want the UK to suffer as an example to others. They forget that the brits will only be pushed and shoved so far before they gets off their arse and bite back. I see May as being a 21st century Chamberlain. Waving her piece of paper. Eventually the scales will fall from her eyes and someone will step into the breach.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2017 17:22:53 GMT
'Carry On Brexit'
Starring Britain's regular line up of the Carry On team including Theresa May, Bo Johnson, Phil Hammond, Liam Fox, Mickey Gove and Dave Davis.
"Hilarious" (The Sun). "Comedy gold" (Evening Standard). "Side Splitting Farce" (Daily Mail). "Very entertaining for everyone outside the UK" (Brussels).
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