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Post by Higgs on Jun 1, 2016 2:09:37 GMT
Alex Salmond has been out doing his - if it goes the way of Brexit, we will be pushing for an independence vote within a couple of years.
Irony, or what? I'm beginning to wish the Scots had got their independence in the last vote, it'd be a very short independence if membership of the EU is what looks like independence to twerps like Salmond and Sturgeon. I hope it doesn't follow that the majority of Scots think the same as those two, in the forthcoming referendum.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 1, 2016 7:00:54 GMT
BBC 2 tonight more propaganda of how bad it will be if we leave dressed up to be fair but I suspect that most will see it for what it was lies!! I'm not so sure. Britain's coal industry has been decimated, the steel industry ruined, the canals woefully neglected, British Home Stores robbed blind, London swarming with ugly Boris buses, the cloth industry packaged up and shipped to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, Britain swamped with poor quality Chinese products (although they do make good underpants!) which will all fail before the year 2019. Foot and Mouth Disease rampant, Mad Cow disease all over the shop, chickens full of salmonella and Potato Blight. You may very well having to end up eating your own children.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 1, 2016 10:04:48 GMT
BBC 2 tonight more propaganda of how bad it will be if we leave dressed up to be fair but I suspect that most will see it for what it was lies!! I'm not so sure. Britain's coal industry has been decimated, the steel industry ruined, the canals woefully neglected, British Home Stores robbed blind, London swarming with ugly Boris buses, the cloth industry packaged up and shipped to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh, Britain swamped with poor quality Chinese products (although they do make good underpants!) which will all fail before the year 2019. Foot and Mouth Disease rampant, Mad Cow disease all over the shop, chickens full of salmonella and Potato Blight. You may very well having to end up eating your own children. If that is the future .........at least it will get the population back down to sensible levels
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 11:01:16 GMT
Alex Salmond has been out doing his - if it goes the way of Brexit, we will be pushing for an independence vote within a couple of years. Irony, or what? I'm beginning to wish the Scots had got their independence in the last vote, it'd be a very short independence if membership of the EU is what looks like independence to twerps like Salmond and Sturgeon. I hope it doesn't follow that the majority of Scots think the same as those two, in the forthcoming referendum. There is absolutely no chance of Scotland voting for independence,doesn't matter how many Referendums the SNP hold, the only reason the SNP are in power is because Scotland was neglected by the Labour Party and its obsession with centrist policy.The SNP should just get on and Govern the country.
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Post by macwolfelee on Jun 1, 2016 11:18:26 GMT
Alex Salmond has been out doing his - if it goes the way of Brexit, we will be pushing for an independence vote within a couple of years. Irony, or what? I'm beginning to wish the Scots had got their independence in the last vote, it'd be a very short independence if membership of the EU is what looks like independence to twerps like Salmond and Sturgeon. I hope it doesn't follow that the majority of Scots think the same as those two, in the forthcoming referendum. Well I certainly don't think like Salmond or Sturgeon or the rest of the SNP. They are as you imply very muddled in their thinking, wishing for separation from the UK on one hand but union with Europe on the other. So I like you hope that the rest of Scots do not follow their line, but vote, as they have done so far, consistently for union and the status quo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 11:46:14 GMT
Alex Salmond has been out doing his - if it goes the way of Brexit, we will be pushing for an independence vote within a couple of years. Irony, or what? I'm beginning to wish the Scots had got their independence in the last vote, it'd be a very short independence if membership of the EU is what looks like independence to twerps like Salmond and Sturgeon. I hope it doesn't follow that the majority of Scots think the same as those two, in the forthcoming referendum. Well I certainly don't think like Salmond or Sturgeon or the rest of the SNP. They are as you imply very muddled in their thinking, wishing for separation from the UK on one hand but union with Europe on the other. So I like you hope that the rest of Scots do not follow their line, but vote, as they have done so far, consistently for union and the status quo. Can I ask you Brexit and Separation aside,Scotland has elected an SNP government,how does that sit with you ?
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Post by peterboat on Jun 1, 2016 12:20:32 GMT
My friends who live in Auchencairn are voting out off the EU and plenty of others up there doing the same
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Post by peterboat on Jun 1, 2016 12:58:51 GMT
R2 is now advertising for inners this is outrageous use of license payers money and should be stopped! No doubt the outers advert will be aired at 3 in the morning
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 13:02:42 GMT
My friends who live in Auchencairn are voting out off the EU and plenty of others up there doing the same I see we have Donald Trump visiting Scotland the day after the Brexit Vote
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Post by macwolfelee on Jun 1, 2016 13:32:05 GMT
Can I ask you Brexit and Separation aside,Scotland has elected an SNP government,how does that sit with you ? Well you know perfectly well what I think about the SNP, and as to their success I think you partially answered that a few posts ago, but there is also a regrettable groundswell of anti-English sentiment fuelling their rise, very similar to the equally regrettable anti-European sentiment fuelling the rise of the Brexiteers.
To add: there is no discernible anti-English sentiment here where I live here within 10 miles of the English Border in a rural area, and where there is a high percentage (I estimate 40%) of English residents. A farming community, no Labour tradition, a Tory MSP. We do have an SNP MP, but only just, and that only because of the Lib Dem implosion. I don't think he'll last. And most of the people I have spoken to will vote In.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 1, 2016 13:37:50 GMT
Doesn't he own a golf course just to the north of Aberdeen, close to the Cock and Bull pub (which my 3rd-cousin owns)(manager of Peterhead Football Club). Ah, yes, it be here: www.trumpgolfscotland.com/
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 1, 2016 13:40:27 GMT
"there is also a regrettable groundswell of anti-English sentiment fuelling their rise"
Throw a few quid at them and it'll die down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 13:55:41 GMT
Can I ask you Brexit and Separation aside,Scotland has elected an SNP government,how does that sit with you ? Well you know perfectly well what I think about the SNP, and as to their success I think you partially answered that a few posts ago, but there is also a regrettable groundswell of anti-English sentiment fuelling their rise, very similar to the equally regrettable anti-European sentiment fuelling the rise of the Brexiteers.
To add: there is no discernible anti-English sentiment here where I live here within 10 miles of the English Border in a rural area, and where there is a high percentage (I estimate 40%) of English residents. A farming community, no Labour tradition, a Tory MSP. We do have an SNP MP, but only just, and that only because of the Lib Dem implosion. I don't think he'll last. And most of the people I have spoken to will vote In.
Sorry we are at cross purposes here,I am not aware of of any groundswell of anti English sentiment in Scotland,I don't know what you base that on ? Nationalism is not necessarily the same as Anti English and obviously the rejection of separation tends to support this. I know where you stand on Brexit and Separation which is why I wanted to leave that well alone,but what are your concerns,hopes and opinions of where we are as a country and where we could perhaps end up,how do you see our present and our future
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 1, 2016 14:10:33 GMT
Could Scotland survive on its own? Or is it attached to England like a blood-sucking sheep tick? There might be enough arable, and a bit of coal still down the mines, and a panful of gold in the Southern Uplands and some fish round the coast and some errant sheep, to keep a few Scots comfortable. Burn some smoky peat in the hearth with the chimney poking out of the snow, and provide wellies for the rich English aristocrats to fly fish for salmon in the Dee. But a real country needs a proper military and nuclear weapons, a vehicle industry, a computer industry. I have always found the Scots to be better educated than the English (in general) but they always end up like a damp squib on Guy Fawkes Day. A bit of fizz and then they fade away. It's the mountains - all mountainous countries are poor, the terrain just sucks the energy out of everyone and everything. Although Switzerland and Austria seem to have mastered the hills.
I'd like to see Scotland become great, but it's like seeing a dead fish on the floor and shouting at it "Get up! Get up!"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 14:49:42 GMT
Could Scotland survive on its own? Or is it attached to England like a blood-sucking sheep tick? There might be enough arable, and a bit of coal still down the mines, and a panful of gold in the Southern Uplands and some fish round the coast and some errant sheep, to keep a few Scots comfortable. Burn some smoky peat in the hearth with the chimney poking out of the snow, and provide wellies for the rich English aristocrats to fly fish for salmon in the Dee. But a real country needs a proper military and nuclear weapons, a vehicle industry, a computer industry. I have always found the Scots to be better educated than the English (in general) but they always end up like a damp squib on Guy Fawkes Day. A bit of fizz and then they fade away. It's the mountains - all mountainous countries are poor, the terrain just sucks the energy out of everyone and everything. Although Switzerland and Austria seem to have mastered the hills. I'd like to see Scotland become great, but it's like seeing a dead fish on the floor and shouting at it "Get up! Get up!" I think you know as little about Scotland as you do about Onionbargee and Tadworth
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