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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:41:33 GMT
Just in case anyone has anything good to say about CRT please put it here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:59:24 GMT
Just in case anyone has anything good to say about CRT please put it here. Ta I think you need to be more specific. I've often complimented the front line staff. Management are more work in progress...
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Post by tecka on Oct 29, 2017 14:13:57 GMT
I'll second the frontline staff.
I've got one I think will prove to cause an argument, tow path improvements so when cycling I don't get so muddy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
Its fair to say that towpath improvements may well lead to more cyclists of all types (children, adults and other types) using the towpaths for pleasure as well as walkers and the eventual outcome may be that the idiots who use towpaths as racetracks and high speed commuting lanes might duck off somewhere else.
That would be a good outcome of towpath improvements.
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Post by tecka on Oct 29, 2017 14:59:05 GMT
I think it's fair to say they've already made a difference to the numbers using the towpath over the past 4-5 years.
The only place I've ever really had issues with the idiot speeding cyclists are commuter zones, and I personally think the share this space scheme is making a difference here.
I'll put forward another good from CRT with this mind. Increasing the numbers of people using the towpath, therefore increasing the amount of people that appreciate the cut.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 15:00:14 GMT
I'll second the frontline staff. I've got one I think will prove to cause an argument, tow path improvements so when cycling I don't get so muddy. I use a bike to get from the boat to get to my car, so I agree. I understand that many boaters are also ramblers, maggot botherers, canoeists and even CRT workers...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 15:30:16 GMT
The aqueduct?
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Post by tecka on Oct 29, 2017 15:37:41 GMT
I'll second the frontline staff. I've got one I think will prove to cause an argument, tow path improvements so when cycling I don't get so muddy. I use a bike to get from the boat to get to my car, so I agree. I understand that many boaters are also ramblers, maggot botherers, canoeists and even CRT workers... Yeah I know, I'm all of the above at various times. Well, I'm not really a maggot botherer so to speak, I'll occasionally drink a beer with a bit of string in the cut. The problems arise when people can't see it from the other pov because they haven't been there. Similar to the bike / hgv issues that crop up I guess. Just thought of another CRT plus, they seem better at pr these days. I don't necessarily agree with all they do but it can't be denied that the profile of the canals are bigger than before.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 15:39:59 GMT
And its safe to walk the towpaths at night. Remember what it used to be like
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 15:45:41 GMT
I use a bike to get from the boat to get to my car, so I agree. I understand that many boaters are also ramblers, maggot botherers, canoeists and even CRT workers... Yeah I know, I'm all of the above at various times. Well, I'm not really a maggot botherer so to speak, I'll occasionally drink a beer with a bit of string in the cut. The problems arise when people can't see it from the other pov because they haven't been there. Similar to the bike / hgv issues that crop up I guess. Just thought of another CRT plus, they seem better at pr these days. I don't necessarily agree with all they do but it can't be denied that the profile of the canals are bigger than before. Some people seem to think the last bit is a negative, fearing that certain groups will be marginalised and the system will become a theme park. I think that overall its probably good for the cut if it becomes better known and more people are able to access it . "access" is not just physical access to towpaths but ability to understand and appreciate the huge importance of the canals in the making of this country and their contribution to what most people see as improvements following the industrial revolution. Its not just a ditch. Its a museum.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 15:56:04 GMT
And its safe to walk the towpaths at night. Remember what it used to be like There's sanitation too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 16:03:59 GMT
Yeah I know, I'm all of the above at various times. Well, I'm not really a maggot botherer so to speak, I'll occasionally drink a beer with a bit of string in the cut. The problems arise when people can't see it from the other pov because they haven't been there. Similar to the bike / hgv issues that crop up I guess. Just thought of another CRT plus, they seem better at pr these days. I don't necessarily agree with all they do but it can't be denied that the profile of the canals are bigger than before. ... Its a museum. Disagree. The canals and waterways are part of our heritage, the management of them needs to recognise the history but also recocognise that there is a need to change with the times (the waterways do not sit alone in a changing world...). I strongly don't view the canals/waterways as a museum. Management of the waterways needs careful consideration CRT seem to get some things right but then shoot themselves in the foot at other times.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 16:23:36 GMT
But in what way do canals need to change in terms of infrastructure? This is what I mean by museum. I know its the $64,000,000 question but do canals actually need to change anyway? Its perfectly easy to repair and effect maintenance without destroying history. I mean canals infrastructure I'm not that concerned about land property. Personally I find the fact there are traces of previous use (the rope grooves etc) is very important. For example I find the "modern" Grand Union locks on the Stretch between Napton and Birmingham much less pleasant than the older ones further south. It IS a museum in effect. What are you suggesting ? Modernisation, widenining and use for transport? You seem to come from a rail background which is a slightly different thing but interesting to hear your views
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 16:50:14 GMT
But in what way do canals need to change in terms of infrastructure? This is what I mean by museum. I know its the $64,000,000 question but do canals actually need to change anyway? Its perfectly easy to repair and effect maintenance without destroying history. I mean canals infrastructure I'm not that concerned about land property. Personally I find the fact there are traces of previous use (the rope grooves etc) is very important. For example I find the "modern" Grand Union locks on the Stretch between Napton and Birmingham much less pleasant than the older ones further south. It IS a museum in effect. What are you suggesting ? Modernisation, widenining and use for transport? You seem to come from a rail background which is a slightly different thing but interesting to hear your views How do you repair and effect maintenance without sufficient funds? Ideally that shortfall will come from the Government but is this realistic? No significant changes need to be made to the infrastructure just a way of sensibly funding the repairs (rope grooves are a nice to have and should be protected if it is sensible to do so) Whilst I come from a rail background my views just carry the same (or less) than anyone else. My view is that CRT have done some good things regarding getting more people interested in the canals but are also doing things that piss off boaters. Now CRT might think that the IWA are the answer to keeping boaters 'out there' but I disagree and without a variety of boaters the waterways will be a sadder place (but a lot easier to manage). I certainly don't want to see in the future a few 'heritage canals' no longer connected to the main/remaining system - and believe if that is to be avoided then people who care about our canals need to strt waking up to the potential prospect of this happening and accepting some changes to the current situation might not only be necessary but desirable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 17:08:10 GMT
But in what way do canals need to change in terms of infrastructure? This is what I mean by museum. I know its the $64,000,000 question but do canals actually need to change anyway? Its perfectly easy to repair and effect maintenance without destroying history. I mean canals infrastructure I'm not that concerned about land property. Personally I find the fact there are traces of previous use (the rope grooves etc) is very important. For example I find the "modern" Grand Union locks on the Stretch between Napton and Birmingham much less pleasant than the older ones further south. It IS a museum in effect. What are you suggesting ? Modernisation, widenining and use for transport? You seem to come from a rail background which is a slightly different thing but interesting to hear your views How do you repair and effect maintenance without sufficient funds? Ideally that shortfall will come from the Government but is this realistic? No significant changes need to be made to the infrastructure just a way of sensibly funding the repairs (rope grooves are a nice to have and should be protected if it is sensible to do so) Whilst I come from a rail background my views just carry the same (or less) than anyone else. My view is that CRT have done some good things regarding getting more people interested in the canals but are also doing things that piss off boaters. Now CRT might think that the IWA are the answer to keeping boaters 'out there' but I disagree and without a variety of boaters the waterways will be a sadder place (but a lot easier to manage). I certainly don't want to see in the future a few 'heritage canals' no longer connected to the main/remaining system - and believe if that is to be avoided then people who care about our canals need to strt waking up to the potential prospect of this happening and accepting some changes to the current situation might not only be necessary but desirable. CRT's total income this year was 200 million. On top of that, they have income from an 850 million pound property portfolio. Just the the 200 million gives them 100 thousand quid per mile. What makes you think they have insufficient funds?
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