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Post by erivers on Nov 21, 2017 18:51:32 GMT
And what exactly is a " perspective" client? One with a very stretched imagination perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:28:36 GMT
No.
Russian mafia are organised and know how to spell "prospectiv"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 19:29:56 GMT
And what exactly is a " perspective" client? One with a very stretched imagination perhaps? Someone with a long term view ?
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Post by thebfg on Nov 21, 2017 20:13:20 GMT
And what exactly is a " perspective" client? One with a very stretched imagination perhaps? I wonder why a council need a private parking company to manage a pay and display car park? There are lots of rules and laws covering council car parks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 20:18:59 GMT
And what exactly is a " perspective" client? One with a very stretched imagination perhaps? I wonder why a council need a private parking company to manage a pay and display car park? There are lots of rules and laws covering council car parks. It's cheaper for the council's to outsource this stuff. Saves on staff wages, office space etc. CRT will be doing the same in the very near future I suspect, with licencing and enforcement, and customer services.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 22, 2017 8:38:19 GMT
I wonder why a council need a private parking company to manage a pay and display car park? There are lots of rules and laws covering council car parks. It's cheaper for the council's to outsource this stuff. Saves on staff wages, office space etc. CRT will be doing the same in the very near future I suspect, with licencing and enforcement, and customer services. But they can't just stick a ppc in a council car park. For one a ppc cannot hold a registered keepee liable on land controlled by bylaws. There are lots of hoops to jump through. Council car parks are covered by rules defined by legislation. A ppc cannot override those. Unless the councils get them removed which takes time and effort. London takes in 600 million a year from parking and parking fines. They won't outsource that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 8:56:58 GMT
It's cheaper for the council's to outsource this stuff. Saves on staff wages, office space etc. CRT will be doing the same in the very near future I suspect, with licencing and enforcement, and customer services. But they can't just stick a ppc in a council car park. For one a ppc cannot hold a registered keepee liable on land controlled by bylaws. There are lots of hoops to jump through. Council car parks are covered by rules defined by legislation. A ppc cannot override those. Unless the councils get them removed which takes time and effort. London takes in 600 million a year from parking and parking fines. They won't outsource that. Some London council's have already tendered out their own car parks, and by doing so have worked around the legislation. The car park companies are slowly manipulating the law through courts etc, just like CRT. This is where CRT, and the EA are sourcing some of the ideas from. CRT were talking to a car park management company in 2014 about charges and how to apply them. It won't be long before CRT bring in similar schemes.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 22, 2017 9:21:47 GMT
But they can't just stick a ppc in a council car park. For one a ppc cannot hold a registered keepee liable on land controlled by bylaws. There are lots of hoops to jump through. Council car parks are covered by rules defined by legislation. A ppc cannot override those. Unless the councils get them removed which takes time and effort. London takes in 600 million a year from parking and parking fines. They won't outsource that. Some London council's have already tendered out their own car parks, and by doing so have worked around the legislation. The car park companies are slowly manipulating the law through courts etc, just like CRT. This is where CRT, and the EA are sourcing some of the ideas from. CRT were talking to a car park management company in 2014 about charges and how to apply them. It won't be long before CRT bring in similar schemes. I have had a few tickets from these companies and always ignored them and eventually they give in but if its for a council park its best to do something about it as they always go to court! When I had the business we had four magistrates and a district judge as customers, advice from them was free and normally what would happen in court, so when I had my one before last I discussed it with one of them, his reply was they are bullies and due to courts disappearing very unlikely to get court time for what was at best dodgy practice [so something good has come out of the loss of courts ] My last one wast an issue as I had sold the vehicle and it was just paperwork catching up a real pain as the vehicle had been cloned then involved in something dodgy so even the police were in contact with me but that was resolved in the end
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Post by thebfg on Nov 22, 2017 15:11:20 GMT
But they can't just stick a ppc in a council car park. For one a ppc cannot hold a registered keepee liable on land controlled by bylaws. There are lots of hoops to jump through. Council car parks are covered by rules defined by legislation. A ppc cannot override those. Unless the councils get them removed which takes time and effort. London takes in 600 million a year from parking and parking fines. They won't outsource that. Some London council's have already tendered out their own car parks, and by doing so have worked around the legislation. The car park companies are slowly manipulating the law through courts etc, just like CRT. This is where CRT, and the EA are sourcing some of the ideas from. CRT were talking to a car park management company in 2014 about charges and how to apply them. It won't be long before CRT bring in similar schemes. Which ones?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 15:39:25 GMT
Some London council's have already tendered out their own car parks, and by doing so have worked around the legislation. The car park companies are slowly manipulating the law through courts etc, just like CRT. This is where CRT, and the EA are sourcing some of the ideas from. CRT were talking to a car park management company in 2014 about charges and how to apply them. It won't be long before CRT bring in similar schemes. Which ones? Lewisham, barking, hillingdon, Haringey etc. Those are just a few I am aware of that have tendered out some of their own car parks.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 22, 2017 15:55:41 GMT
Lewisham, barking, hillingdon, Haringey etc. Those are just a few I am aware of that have tendered out some of their own car parks. However they tender it. Any land owned by an authority, is covered by legislation, covered by an act, public or private or maintained at the public expense is not relevant under the protection of freedom act. So any ticket used by a ppc can be told to to go chase the unnamed driver. As keeper liability cannot be held. Just seems stupid when otherwise the council would have full weight of the law behind them. They also know they can't run council car parks as if it's private property. I wish my local council would offer free for all on it's car parks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 17:38:45 GMT
Lewisham, barking, hillingdon, Haringey etc. Those are just a few I am aware of that have tendered out some of their own car parks. ...and many Cornish councils have contracted out car parks to ex thugs,
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Post by thebfg on Nov 22, 2017 18:19:13 GMT
Lewisham, barking, hillingdon, Haringey etc. Those are just a few I am aware of that have tendered out some of their own car parks. ...and many Cornish councils have contracted out car parks to ex thugs, Just for the record I knew it has happened. I just believe its stupid and only puts money (When the easily led pay) into the thugs picked so they can chase more innocent victims.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 22, 2017 18:44:15 GMT
Cornwall is quite interesting. Whilst I've not found any that were outsourced. U did read a report about savings where Cornwall council wanted to transfer car parks to local councils and get private companies for enforcement.
This was shot down has they have the second highest income from car parks.
Sounds like they did it anyway. One wonders if it's the free car parks they gave to private companies.
Might have a further look.
Are will still waiting for anyone to get a letter from the mooring specialists on a canal?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2017 18:56:41 GMT
...and many Cornish councils have contracted out car parks to ex thugs, Just for the record I knew it has happened. I just believe its stupid and only puts money (When the easily led pay) into the thugs picked so they can chase more innocent victims. Not always innocent but yes, innocent people do get done over by hired thugs. Actually, to be fair, some of them aren't thugs either, some are actually very clever people driven only by money.
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