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Post by peterboat on May 27, 2016 21:16:29 GMT
Yes, I'm very mean. If I do buy anything, it will be the equivalent of the 1960's "I have seen the lions of Longleat" window sticker. I imagine, in spending terms, I will be a huge disappointment to the show's organisers. Dont spoil it for your good lady by behaving like a Yorkshireman You mean a scotsman dont you
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 4:48:56 GMT
Dont spoil it for your good lady by behaving like a Yorkshireman You mean a scotsman dont you Sorry Peter,present company excepted.I don't consider you a Yorkshireman,its such a large county that in my ignorance I always think of your area as North East Midlands,if that makes any sense.
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Post by Saltysplash on May 28, 2016 5:56:53 GMT
Ive only been once. Was hoping to find at least one stall of decent boat jumble stuff but no. So I settled for eating a cardboard burger, bought a couple of pairs of Regatta trousers on offer and went home.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 7:18:19 GMT
Ive only been once. Was hoping to find at least one stall of decent boat jumble stuff but no. So I settled for eating a cardboard burger, bought a couple of pairs of Regatta trousers on offer and went home. Regatta Trousers on Offer,that made me smile I remember several years ago at The Classic Car Show at the NEC getting robbed for some Autoglym Products that were actually cheaper in Halfords.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 7:22:14 GMT
Ive only been once. Was hoping to find at least one stall of decent boat jumble stuff but no. So I settled for eating a cardboard burger, bought a couple of pairs of Regatta trousers on offer and went home. The trouble with Iconoclast is he sits in a Lorry all day,so he has plenty of time to reflect on his purchases. You don't know how that affects a man,he will be cursing other road users all day long ha ha ha
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Post by Saltysplash on May 28, 2016 7:39:47 GMT
Ive only been once. Was hoping to find at least one stall of decent boat jumble stuff but no. So I settled for eating a cardboard burger, bought a couple of pairs of Regatta trousers on offer and went home. Regatta Trousers on Offer,that made me smile I remember several years ago at The Classic Car Show at the NEC getting robbed for some Autoglym Products that were actually cheaper in Halfords. You do have to be careful at shows for those bargains, The trousers were very cheap and I still wear them 8 years later. I think the best bargain I ever got though was at the London Boat Show about 10 years ago. I was specifically looking for a Chart Plotter and after a good search around I bought a Lowrance GPS Chart Plotter complete with charts covering all European waters and the Med with large screen. £200 quid cheaper than the next equivalent plotter which only came with UK waters.....and the Burger I ate wasnt cardboard.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 8:44:28 GMT
Regatta Trousers on Offer,that made me smile I remember several years ago at The Classic Car Show at the NEC getting robbed for some Autoglym Products that were actually cheaper in Halfords. You do have to be careful at shows for those bargains, The trousers were very cheap and I still wear them 8 years later. I think the best bargain I ever got though was at the London Boat Show about 10 years ago. I was specifically looking for a Chart Plotter and after a good search around I bought a Lowrance GPS Chart Plotter complete with charts covering all European waters and the Med with large screen. £200 quid cheaper than the next equivalent plotter which only came with UK waters.....and the Burger I ate wasnt cardboard. Thats an interesting thing to buy,excuse my ignorance but how does that work and have you used it much, its a genuine question and not a pisstake by the way.
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Post by JohnV on May 28, 2016 9:09:43 GMT
You do have to be careful at shows for those bargains, The trousers were very cheap and I still wear them 8 years later. I think the best bargain I ever got though was at the London Boat Show about 10 years ago. I was specifically looking for a Chart Plotter and after a good search around I bought a Lowrance GPS Chart Plotter complete with charts covering all European waters and the Med with large screen. £200 quid cheaper than the next equivalent plotter which only came with UK waters.....and the Burger I ate wasnt cardboard. Thats an interesting thing to buy,excuse my ignorance but how does that work and have you used it much, its a genuine question and not a pisstake by the way. A bit like your car sat nav but for marine with much more information, often with the ability to overlay information from other sources such as radar, depth sounders, AIS (which identifies shipping around you giving names sizes course and speed etc) I'm just in the process of upgrading the systems on Sabina with a Lowrance Magnum system with a 15" marine display and installing a secondhand Furuno radar and I will be adding AIS when funds allow
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Post by Saltysplash on May 28, 2016 9:51:01 GMT
You do have to be careful at shows for those bargains, The trousers were very cheap and I still wear them 8 years later. I think the best bargain I ever got though was at the London Boat Show about 10 years ago. I was specifically looking for a Chart Plotter and after a good search around I bought a Lowrance GPS Chart Plotter complete with charts covering all European waters and the Med with large screen. £200 quid cheaper than the next equivalent plotter which only came with UK waters.....and the Burger I ate wasnt cardboard. Thats an interesting thing to buy,excuse my ignorance but how does that work and have you used it much, its a genuine question and not a pisstake by the way. As John says, they are a great bit of Kit that are even better these days than the one I bought. used it every trip heres a pic of approching the Sandetti East Bouy heading for Oostend
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 16:19:32 GMT
Thats an interesting thing to buy,excuse my ignorance but how does that work and have you used it much, its a genuine question and not a pisstake by the way. As John says, they are a great bit of Kit that are even better these days than the one I bought. used it every trip heres a pic of approching the Sandetti East Bouy heading for Oostend You and Johnv are showing your class now,Master Mariners both of you.Does that dispense with chart reading skills as a Sat Nav does with Map Reading
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Post by PaulG2 on May 28, 2016 16:43:15 GMT
As John says, they are a great bit of Kit that are even better these days than the one I bought. used it every trip heres a pic of approching the Sandetti East Bouy heading for Oostend You and Johnv are showing your class now,Master Mariners both of you. Does that dispense with chart reading skills as a Sat Nav does with Map Reading Not at all. First off, you need to retain your navigational skills and charts just in case your electronics fail - not a big deal if your gps fails on the road, because all roads go somewhere. The same is not true at sea. Secondly, salty water is full of all kinds of dangers, obstacles and rules and these kind of things are noted on charts. The Costa Concordia sinking is a good example of why one needs to retain their chart reading skills. To the Concordia crew, it looked like they were navigating in nice, deep open water. We all know how that went. A good nav program like John is showing will replicate the chart on the screen, which, of course, means you have to know how to read the chart for it to do you any good.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 16:59:59 GMT
You and Johnv are showing your class now,Master Mariners both of you. Does that dispense with chart reading skills as a Sat Nav does with Map Reading Not at all. First off, you need to retain your navigational skills and charts just in case your electronics fail - not a big deal if your gps fails on the road, because all roads go somewhere. The same is not true at sea. Secondly, salty water is full of all kinds of dangers, obstacles and rules and these kind of things are noted on charts. The Costa Concordia sinking is a good example of why one needs to retain their chart reading skills. To the Concordia crew, it looked like they were navigating in nice, deep open water. We all know how that went. A good nav program like John is showing will replicate the chart on the screen, which, of course, means you have to know how to read the chart for it to do you any good. Thanks Paul,never been to sea as you can no doubt gather and its great to learn about these things. I guess the price and sophistication of these systems can be limitless ?
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Post by JohnV on May 28, 2016 17:01:48 GMT
It was Saltysplash that was showing the nav program ......... I might be able to navigate in the old fashioned way with compass and chart but putting a picture of it on the web site is beyond me ;-)
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2016 17:05:35 GMT
It was Saltysplash that was showing the nav program ......... I might be able to navigate in the old fashioned way with compass and chart but putting a picture of it on the web site is beyond me ;-) Sorry John,sometimes its hard to know who is saying what in the boxes.I hope your preparations are going ok
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Post by PaulG2 on May 28, 2016 17:32:00 GMT
If you take a close look at Saltysplash's photo you can see the importance of still being able to read a chart. That photo isn't good enough to see the chart real well, but it looks like his plotter has charted a straight course between two points, as shown on the screen. You can see that the boat has either wandered or been navigated a tad off course. I'm guessing that Salty casually navigated around that long, narrow, shallow area and then you can see he makes a more drastic correction to starboard to get back on course and avoid the small round shallow, or rock or whatever it is he is headed for.
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