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Post by quaysider on Nov 5, 2017 11:59:21 GMT
Ok - So this morning, after being at 100% last night my batteries were down to 57% (according to smartgauge) - I thought I'd got them full when the charge current tailed off to less than 1.5a.
Accepting their capacity is reduced - even after a recent de-sulphication charge I think I'm going to replace them.
I'd like GTP BUT just can't afford them at the moment... SO it's going to be flooded .
Has anyone found and "decent" deals lately? - I'm looking for 4 x something over 130ah. I'm drawn to Leoch as I like the horsey picture.
Thoughts greatly apprecaited.
Ginge x
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 12:10:12 GMT
My mate is very pleased at the price and performance of 3 x 135 batteries he got from Halfords.
Says he'll not go anyway else in future.
He's had them over a year, and only bought from Halfords because of the price, free delivery, and warranty.
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 5, 2017 12:22:26 GMT
Ok - So this morning, after being at 100% last night my batteries were down to 57% (according to smartgauge) - I thought I'd got them full when the charge current tailed off to less than 1.5a. Accepting their capacity is reduced - even after a recent de-sulphication charge I think I'm going to replace them. I'd like GTP BUT just can't afford them at the moment... SO it's going to be flooded . Has anyone found and "decent" deals lately? - I'm looking for 4 x something over 130ah. I'm drawn to Leoch as I like the horsey picture. Thoughts greatly apprecaited. Ginge x What’s GTP? Anyway, you don’t say which Leoch battery but googling “Leoch leisure battery” comes up with the adventurer SFL120 which is 120AH. About £100 each. But I don’t understand why anyone would want to spend that money on a battery that, by their own admission and presumably under ideal conditions, is only good for 200 cycles down to 50% DoD. If you are going to do your hotel-boat type thing, I suggest that you don’t want to be constantly fretting about batteries and who is using what electrical items. So why not spend a bit more and get some proper batteries like Trojan T105s? OK they have become more expensive recently with the £$ exchange rate, but still only roughly 50% more expensive than those Leochs. And yet the quoted cycle life at 50% DoD is not 50% more at 300. Not double, at 400. Not even 4 times as much at 800... no it’s 8 times as much, at 1600 cycles to 50% DoD. No brainier I’d say, so long as you can charge them properly. I fail to understand why anyone would want to spend £100 on a battery that was only good for 200 cycles.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 5, 2017 12:23:45 GMT
My mate is very pleased at the price and performance of 3 x 135 batteries he got from Halfords. Says he'll not go anyway else in future. He's had them over a year, and only bought from Halfords because of the price, free delivery, and warranty. Rog Halford's leisure batteries are made by Yuasa which is a pretty good make. Can't find anything listed on their website rated higher than 115Ah though.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 12:35:30 GMT
Don't know the make I'm afraid, just know he got them from Halfords cos he NEVER stops 'banging on' about them I am firmly in the camp of buying wet batteries, and change them as necessary. Life's too short to worry excessively about them. My current batteries have been on since August 2012 and are still okay. I have been advised by 'experts' on many occasions, that standard leisure batteries are not intended for constant use by permanent liveaboards. Anything over 18 months with such batteries, I am told, is very good. Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 5, 2017 12:43:55 GMT
Don't know the make I'm afraid, just know he got them from Halfords cos he NEVER stops 'banging on' about them I am firmly in the camp of buying wet batteries, and change them as necessary. Life's too short to worry excessively about them. My current batteries have been on since August 2012 and are still okay. I have been advised by 'experts' on many occasions, that standard leisure batteries are not intended for constant use by permanent liveaboards. Anything over 18 months with such batteries, I am told, is very good. Rog I think it depends on your expectations. If you only use the batteries for a couple of LED lights and pumps and thus don’t notice when they are well below 50% of their original capacity, then fine. If you want the accoutrements of modern life as we do, having proper batteries seems to me to be the only sensible option.
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Post by quaysider on Nov 5, 2017 12:49:08 GMT
*ponders if someone will suggest a whip-round for the poor, fat, ginger kid?*
paypal email address can be supplied ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2017 12:58:16 GMT
Don'te make I'm afraid, just know he got them from Halfords cos he NEVER stops 'banging on' about them I am firmly in the camp of buying wet batteries, and change them as necessary. Life's too short to worry excessively about them. My current batteries have been on since August 2012 and are still okay. I have been advised by 'experts' on many occasions, that standard leisure batteries are not intended for constant use by permanent liveaboards. Anything over 18 months with such batteries, I am told, is very good. Rog I think it depends on your expectations. If you only use the batteries for a couple of LED lights and pumps and thus don’t notice when they are well below 50% of their original capacity, then fine. If you want the accoutrements of modern life as we do, having proper batteries seems to me to be the only sensible option. The point that was being made to me, I believe, was that should you desire all the 'accoutrements of modern life' then basic leisure batteries are not the way to go. Expensive batteries are unsurprisingly, expensive and demanding of quality monitoring and care. LED lighting, fridge, CD player, and a bit of tv (the less the better for me) plus the usual charging and pumps, and we manage very well on cheapos. Perhaps Hotel Ellis may be better advised to invest more, as he will not be in control of power usage. Rog
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Post by loafer on Nov 5, 2017 12:59:40 GMT
Don't know the make I'm afraid, just know he got them from Halfords cos he NEVER stops 'banging on' about them I am firmly in the camp of buying wet batteries, and change them as necessary. Life's too short to worry excessively about them. My current batteries have been on since August 2012 and are still okay. I have been advised by 'experts' on many occasions, that standard leisure batteries are not intended for constant use by permanent liveaboards. Anything over 18 months with such batteries, I am told, is very good. Rog I think it depends on your expectations. If you only use the batteries for a couple of LED lights and pumps and thus don’t notice when they are well below 50% of their original capacity, then fine. If you want the accoutrements of modern life as we do, having proper batteries seems to me to be the only sensible option. Agreed. Trojan have been better than I thought they would. They'll be 3 in January, the longest lasting we ever had, except for the heinously expensive Concord AGMs in a previous life at sea. How's eggy Jeff?
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Post by quaysider on Nov 5, 2017 13:01:00 GMT
Oh yes he will... lol - my boat.... my rules :-)
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Post by lollygagger on Nov 5, 2017 13:01:15 GMT
How about a smaller bank of better quality batteries? Do you really need 540ah+?
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Post by quaysider on Nov 5, 2017 13:03:35 GMT
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Post by loafer on Nov 5, 2017 13:06:30 GMT
They DO appear to be reassuringly expensive!
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 5, 2017 13:12:30 GMT
I think it depends on your expectations. If you only use the batteries for a couple of LED lights and pumps and thus don’t notice when they are well below 50% of their original capacity, then fine. If you want the accoutrements of modern life as we do, having proper batteries seems to me to be the only sensible option. How's eggy Jeff? Thanks for asking! His egg has mostly disappeared, but not my fault, I didn’t eat it! Fortunately no significant bruising /discolouration but it’s still a little tender. I think he is more concerned about having to go back to work on Tuesday, than about his egg! Did you make it to your winding point burrow yet?
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Post by loafer on Nov 5, 2017 13:16:02 GMT
Thanks for asking! His egg has mostly disappeared, but not my fault, I didn’t eat it! Fortunately no significant bruising /discolouration but it’s still a little tender. I think he is more concerned about having to go back to work on Tuesday, than about his egg! Did you make it to your winding point burrow yet? Not yet - Brewood for a rest and a curry! We're not great hibernators - we'll still potter about if there's no threat of a big freeze. Glad to hear the egg has diminished! Looked a right corker!
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