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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 14:46:50 GMT
At home (like Patty).
We havent had the central heating on since we had the multi fuel stove fit a couple of months back.
Currently using around £20-£22 pounds worth of Homefire Ovals per week supplemented with around £12's worth of pre-seasoned wood. We find this can, by letting heat go through the house keep the rooms we actually need kept warm more than adequately.
Water is heated by a new gas Combi on demand. I am waiting with bated breath to see how much our reduced gas consumption as a result of getting the new combi and not using the radiators will offset the fuel and wood needed for the stove.
My gut reaction at the mo is that it's more expensive as we dont get our wood for free, if we did that would obviously shift the balance.
(All that said of course we haven't really had any sustained cold weather yet.)
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Post by patty on Nov 11, 2017 15:20:13 GMT
Rayburn is at the moment eating 50 kilos of Anthracite a week so its £13 I am also using some free wood. If very cold it will be 75 kilos a week its life, I also do all my cooking on the Rayburn so it reduces costs that way I think i pay a lot more for my anthracite ..I think i best have a search around ..trouble is people don't like delivering to me cos i brought stupid coal bins that are challenging to fill.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 11, 2017 20:11:43 GMT
Rayburn is at the moment eating 50 kilos of Anthracite a week so its £13 I am also using some free wood. If very cold it will be 75 kilos a week its life, I also do all my cooking on the Rayburn so it reduces costs that way I think i pay a lot more for my anthracite ..I think i best have a search around ..trouble is people don't like delivering to me cos i brought stupid coal bins that are challenging to fill. What makes it worse is I am burning welsh anthracite! Richard and I buy our years supply in one go so maybe thats how we get it at such a good price
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Post by patty on Nov 11, 2017 20:18:38 GMT
I think i pay a lot more for my anthracite ..I think i best have a search around ..trouble is people don't like delivering to me cos i brought stupid coal bins that are challenging to fill. What makes it worse is I am burning welsh anthracite! Richard and I buy our years supply in one go so maybe thats how we get it at such a good price Ah that probably explains it..If i brought more at a time my neighbour wouldn't bother to buy any...she has this habit of 'borrowing' on a non returnable basis , my coal...apparently its what neighbours do.
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Post by peterboat on Nov 11, 2017 20:22:46 GMT
What makes it worse is I am burning welsh anthracite! Richard and I buy our years supply in one go so maybe thats how we get it at such a good price Ah that probably explains it..If i brought more at a time my neighbour wouldn't bother to buy any...she has this habit of 'borrowing' on a non returnable basis , my coal...apparently its what neighbours do. Somebody borrowed a bag of mine it was returned when they discovered that its harder to burn than they thought!!! Jaynes stove wont burn it either so clearly our Rayburns are proper stoves
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 11, 2017 20:30:31 GMT
What makes it worse is I am burning welsh anthracite! Richard and I buy our years supply in one go so maybe thats how we get it at such a good price Ah that probably explains it..If i brought more at a time my neighbour wouldn't bother to buy any...she has this habit of 'borrowing' on a non returnable basis , my coal...apparently its what neighbours do. People like that are totally out of order. I don't mind helping anybody out, but when the help becomes a one-way-street then there has to come a point where you say "Stop".
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Post by patty on Nov 11, 2017 21:44:00 GMT
Ah that probably explains it..If i brought more at a time my neighbour wouldn't bother to buy any...she has this habit of 'borrowing' on a non returnable basis , my coal...apparently its what neighbours do. People like that are totally out of order. I don't mind helping anybody out, but when the help becomes a one-way-street then there has to come a point where you say "Stop". She's a taker..you know the sort and was quite open about it so i moved my coal bins up to close to the house then put a really heavy metal plate in front of the opening. Her guttering blocked and water poured onto my roof..so i ended up having to get them unblocked as she ignored my requests...she got my son to repair her fence..there is loads more...bur its not just me the neighbour the other side she uses as well...she constantly claims 'poverty' but goes away. You either get riled up or just get on with life....its a bit of a challenge for her to get my coal now i dragged that heavy metal plate in place. Where I live the 3 cottages share facilities so you really have to get on...
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Post by Mr Stabby on Nov 12, 2017 16:13:02 GMT
My gut reaction at the mo is that it's more expensive as we dont get our wood for free, if we did that would obviously shift the balance. There's loads of wood to be had for free, or for a token amount if you know where to look, most factories, builders merchants etc have loads of broken pallets and wooden bearers getting in the way that they'd be glad to get shot of.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:20:23 GMT
Quite a few wood product manufacturers are investing in briquetting machines and sell the briquettes quite cheaply. They burn very well. Only big problem (for me at least) is that they have to be stored dry unlike wood and coal.
If you can find a source of well priced briquettes and you have storage they are well worth looking into.
Last summer there was a place in Croydon doing 100kg for £1. At the end of the day they have to pay to landfill it otherwise. In winter its dearer obviously.
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 16:36:39 GMT
Last summer there was a place in Croydon doing 100kg for £1. At the end of the day they have to pay to landfill it otherwise. In winter its dearer obviously. That sounds like a good price. I'm not sure about the landfill thing now that there are biomass burning power stations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 16:51:52 GMT
I don't really know but I suspect a relatively small business making window frames or whatever will not be involved in large power generation schemes. It too complicated. Maybe large companies could do this.
I bought some bags of briquettes from a windo frame maker in Staines on Thames last year mid winter for £3 for 20kg. Not great value but they did offer me a van load for a lot less but I have no dry storage. they had a lot of bags of briquettes which did not appear to be going anywhere.
I do think landfill is where they go.
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Post by kris on Nov 12, 2017 16:59:33 GMT
I don't really know but I suspect a relatively small business making window frames or whatever will not be involved in large power generation schemes. It too complicated. Maybe large companies could do this. I bought some bags of briquettes from a windo frame maker in Staines on Thames last year mid winter for £3 for 20kg. Not great value but they did offer me a van load for a lot less but I have no dry storage. they had a lot of bags of briquettes which did not appear to be going anywhere. I do think landfill is where they go. I don't think I explained it very well. There are power stations that burn wood now. It's the big plan for reducing carbon emissions. Lots of places have wood skips now as well as metal. It has a value now. Anybody paying for it to go to landfill needs their head looking at. These power stations are consuming vast quantities of wood imported and scrap.
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Post by patty on Nov 12, 2017 17:02:46 GMT
They sound good idea but I don't really have a lot of dry storage...cottage tad damp..just arrived back now and discovered all the kindling and logs damp and they r stored in front porch..I did try paining the walls with that special paint and filled in every hole around the outside but guess cos its single skin its gonna be damp.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 17:06:56 GMT
kris I'm sure you are right but i would expect logistics to come into it somewhere and for some it just would not add up. I still see pallets being dumped and a local building site has just filled up about half a dozen skips with scaffolding boards some of which I have managed to reclaim for use on my fire.
I did wonder if I have stolen wood from the skip owner (I obtained permission from the man putting the wood in the skips).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2017 17:11:06 GMT
They sound good idea but I don't really have a lot of dry storage...cottage tad damp..just arrived back now and discovered all the kindling and logs damp and they r stored in front porch..I did try paining the walls with that special paint and filled in every hole around the outside but guess cos its single skin its gonna be damp. They definitely need to be dry stored or they turn into some sort or non edible porridge type thing. I've seen it happen on the roof of someone else's boat. Not ideal.
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