|
|
Post by thebfg on Dec 10, 2017 17:59:40 GMT
The UK certainly lacks strong leaders. All lining their pockets before they sneak off and leave someone else to clear up their mess, like a certain Chantelle. It must be getting embarrassing to travel abroad and say you're British. Yes! What we really need is a Trump, Putin or a Jong IL. That will get us the respect of all nations. At least no-one would fuck with us |
|
|
|
Post by bodger on Dec 10, 2017 18:45:52 GMT
Yes! What we really need is a Trump, Putin or a Jong IL. That will get us the respect of all nations. At least no-one would fuck with us are you Mrs Tabby's glove puppet? |
|
|
|
Post by bodger on Dec 10, 2017 18:49:00 GMT
Of course putin has, but how, by lying cheating thuggery! I prefer proper democracy, even though it fails to provide a clear result sometimes. 'proper democracy' only works if there is 100% turn out, and if the electorate has been screened to eliminate thugs, rabble rousers and ignoramuses who can't be bothered to learn about the issues. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2017 19:20:48 GMT
Of course putin has, but how, by lying cheating thuggery! I prefer proper democracy, even though it fails to provide a clear result sometimes. 'proper democracy' only works if there is 100% turn out, and if the electorate has been screened to eliminate thugs, rabble rousers and ignoramuses who can't be bothered to learn about the issues. I agree. Most people read or hear stuff from the main stream media and assume it's a true account. In fact the BBC are now investing time and money into teaching kids to believe exactly that (and ignore global social media reports I assume). We're also so busy apparently that we need a minute digest summary of the news so we can get on with being good little worker ants. We are screened from the real politics which go on at at a much higher level. The media barons are in a battle against the establishment. One set of very wealthy people are is a battle with another. Nothing has changed really. The concept of democracy is great, however all we have is an illusion of it. End of conspiracy theory. |
|
|
|
Post by Andyberg on Dec 10, 2017 19:42:37 GMT
Oh the irony.....you've got proper democracy...you lost the democratic vote!! get over it...looser!! |
|
|
|
Post by thebfg on Dec 10, 2017 20:15:18 GMT
At least no-one would fuck with us are you Mrs Tabby's glove puppet? Luckily not. No offence to mrs tabby |
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Dec 11, 2017 8:58:08 GMT
Of course putin has, but how, by lying cheating thuggery! I prefer proper democracy, even though it fails to provide a clear result sometimes. 'proper democracy' only works if there is 100% turn out, and if the electorate has been screened to eliminate thugs, rabble rousers and ignoramuses who can't be bothered to learn about the issues. So that's a good few pruned off the electoral role, starting with Farage. What was it about those with higher education? Oh yes, they were more likely to be remainers. |
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Dec 11, 2017 9:01:44 GMT
Oh the irony.....you've got proper democracy...you lost the democratic vote!! get over it...looser!! I doubt you are getting what you envisaged either, which is what I was commenting on. According to some here, you may have to pass a spelling test before you can vote in future. |
|
|
|
Post by lollygagger on Dec 11, 2017 9:15:40 GMT
Oh the irony.....you've got proper democracy...you lost the democratic vote!! get over it...looser!! I doubt you are getting what you envisaged either, which is what I was commenting on. According to some here, you may have to pass a spelling test before you can vote in future. No, it'll be a fucked up fudge due to the remoaners exerting what power and influence they have to make it so. That's what we're seeing, not the Brexit that was voted for. |
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Dec 11, 2017 10:10:58 GMT
You've hit the nail on the head there, each voted for their own brexit, theirs alone is the one true way to nirvana. A religion based on whim, myth and faith, Pope Nigel at the head, still claiming his euro pension.
Saint Jeremy any day.
|
|
|
|
Post by peterboat on Dec 11, 2017 10:14:54 GMT
Oh the irony.....you've got proper democracy...you lost the democratic vote!! get over it...looser!! I doubt you are getting what you envisaged either, which is what I was commenting on. According to some here, you may have to pass a spelling test before you can vote in future. I think we will get exactly what I voted for. I do believe that the whole lot will fall apart with a hard brexit and the EU ripping itself to bits the chap in Germany want a state of Europe and I cant see a lot of the countries going for it |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 12:24:00 GMT
'proper democracy' only works if there is 100% turn out, and if the electorate has been screened to eliminate thugs, rabble rousers and ignoramuses who can't be bothered to learn about the issues. So that's a good few pruned off the electoral role, starting with Farage. What was it about those with higher education? Oh yes, they were more likely to be remainers. I think the outcome was more to do with apathy and distrust of 'powers that be' in general. Nobody likes control freaks unless they are lining our pockets in some way. Europe just put those control freaks further out from our reach. Obviously there must be people in power who want the best for everyone, but they usually get sucked into elitist battles of power eventually. Human nature and control has never changed, we just use more of our brain to fight instead of our fists. Things like greed and jealousy have nothing to do with intelligence and are still with us in a big way. Marketing and media forces are very good at pulling our greed and jealousy strings too. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 12:45:13 GMT
It's part of evolution I suppose. Money has been around for a long time, and exchange and banter but it seems that the ability to channel vast wealth to individuals other than monarchs and other leaders was facilitated by the industrial revolution. In order for that to continue everyone has to be encouraged to be greedy. Otherwise the whole house of cards falls over. Greed is a part of instinct so its very easy to encourage people to be greedy. Encouragement is not needed as its natural anyway but it is in some peoples interest to encourage greed in others. I think its all a bit unpleasant but its not about to change. People think survival is all about money but it isn't really if you think about it. OK you need a bit of money for basic survival because of how the system is arranged but nobody ever has or ever will need millions or billions of pounds. Its just not necessary for a human to possess that sort of wealth. Its just silly. but there we are that's the way of the world. . Maaan  |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2017 13:04:54 GMT
It's part of evolution I suppose. Money has been around for a long time, and exchange and banter but it seems that the ability to channel vast wealth to individuals other than monarchs and other leaders was facilitated by the industrial revolution. In order for that to continue everyone has to be encouraged to be greedy. Otherwise the whole house of cards falls over. Greed is a part of instinct so its very easy to encourage people to be greedy. Encouragement is not needed as its natural anyway but it is in some peoples interest to encourage greed in others. I think its all a bit unpleasant but its not about to change. People think survival is all about money but it isn't really if you think about it. OK you need a bit of money for basic survival because of how the system is arranged but nobody ever has or ever will need millions or billions of pounds. Its just not necessary for a human to possess that sort of wealth. Its just silly. but there we are that's the way of the world. . Maaan The thing is that as everyone does has to live with money, if someone wants power and influence over everyone on a world scale, they need lots of it. Money has shown itself to be quite a good tool in allowing one person to control another. Maybe it is a step forward to being controlled by physical threats. However, misuse of money allows a system where in theory one individual could control everyone. We already have a state where some individuals are 'worth' billions of times more than another. Can one individual really be 'worthy' of that kind of power? Especially if they are driven purely by greed. No, more like stealth dictatorship, not democracy. |
|
|
|
Post by Jim on Dec 11, 2017 13:11:20 GMT
The new socialist world order is nigh! Remember, it started here.
|
|
