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Post by kris on Jun 3, 2016 8:28:54 GMT
I don't have to move far Peter, I'm at kildwick. Just meandering down towards Leeds, you know no rush. At a leisurely pace like the canals used to be, before this last bout of micro managment.
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Post by kris on Jun 3, 2016 8:35:30 GMT
At the end of the day, even a non compliant boater is a customer. What I can't understand is why they always go for the nuclear option of section 8 seizure of the boat. As Nigel Moore has pointed out numerous times on the other channel they have other more appropriate enforcement options. As section 8 was meant for abandend boats that the owners of cant be traced.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 8:45:33 GMT
At the end of the day, even a compliant boater is a customer. What I can't understand is why they always go for the nuclear option of section 8 seizure of the boat. As Nigel Moore has pointed out numerous times on the other channel they have other more appropriate enforcement options as section 8 was meant for abandend boats that the owners of cant be traced. Its just sheer nastiness and bitter attitudes. Some will say it cannot be so, and I really don't give a shit about the apologists anymore, I've sat with Crt, watched, listened, argued and been amazed at the sheer stupidity some of them spout. I look back at some of my notes and recordings of meetings, and wonder how the fuck I got drawn into the silliness. I've had better conversations with kids.
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Post by Phil on Jun 3, 2016 9:16:54 GMT
At the end of the day, even a non compliant boater is a customer. That's a bit like saying, even a shoplifter is a customer. Not someone that is really wanted though, is it.
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Post by kris on Jun 3, 2016 9:35:03 GMT
At the end of the day, even a non compliant boater is a customer. That's a bit like saying, even a shoplifter is a customer. Not someone that is really wanted though, is it. As your last two posts on this board have been negative replies to comments I've made, are you following me about? I think your on the wrong board why don't you go and do some moderating on the other channel? Oh by the way I don't agree with your analogy, but even shops have to deal with shoplifters through use of legislation as written, rather than trying to make up their own interpretations of the law!
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 3, 2016 10:06:29 GMT
Some of those that remain, have been set in their ways, and just cannot adjust to the trusts "private enterprise". The only way forward in my view, is for parry to get rid of the old stock, bring in some new blood that has the sense to work with the people it has responsibility for. I don't see Parry as any kind of innocent victim of the aggressive and ill-intentioned knuckle draggers from the upper echelons of C&RT's Enforcement and Legal departments. My own dealings with him, since becoming CEO, have left me convinced that he's a thoroughly nasty piece of work, . . . devious, evasive, dishonest, and above all, very definitely NOT up to the job he's been given. He is, as you say, a PR man through and through, and I believe that he's given a lot of active encouragement for the excesses of the Enforcement gang from the time of his appointment.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 3, 2016 10:24:13 GMT
I'm inclined to the same view, and I think the rough times they've been given by two Circuit Judges, the adverse comments from others, and the current High Court Claim against them resulting from their unlawful/criminal boat seizure at Newark in 2014 has got a lot to do with it. The Enforcement goons have been digging themselves, and the Trust, into some fairly deep holes of late and there are now some signs that they're possibly beginning to realize that they should stop digging. Today has brought some new developments in both my current wrangle with them, and in addition to 'Tadworth', agreement to the issuing of a new Licence or PBC to another previous recipient of a Court Order and Injunction. C&RT's Claim against me [which is a hole that I dug for them, and they have obligingly jumped into] for a Section 8 and 13 boat removal Declaration and Injunction was struck out on Wednesday morning at Nottingham County Court, and they have been given 7 days to apply for the Order to be set aside. For reasons which I'll explain in a few days time, I'm not going to publish any more information about what's happened for the time being, except to say that there are indications that they are very anxious at the moment to avoid airing their arguments with regard to the PRN, and their contention that boats kept moored and out of commission on private moorings outside the main navigable channel of a scheduled river must be 'licensed'. Hi Tony, good to see you here - hope all is well with you and yours! When you do have some developments you feel you can reveal, I hope you will post them here. I always enjoy reading your stuff. Hello Paul, thank you for your good wishes, and I hope all is well for you too. C&RT haven't had a very good week, and there's a good bit more grief heading their way shortly. I'll be posting all the details as soon as the time is right to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 10:27:48 GMT
Some of those that remain, have been set in their ways, and just cannot adjust to the trusts "private enterprise". The only way forward in my view, is for parry to get rid of the old stock, bring in some new blood that has the sense to work with the people it has responsibility for. I don't see Parry as any kind of innocent victim of the aggressive and ill-intentioned knuckle draggers from the upper echelons of C&RT's Enforcement and Legal departments. My own dealings with him, since becoming CEO, have left me convinced that he's a thoroughly nasty piece of work, . . . devious, evasive, dishonest, and above all, very definitely NOT up to the job he's been given. He is, as you say, a PR man through and through. I agree parry is not innocent. I also agree he is not fit for purpose. He's two faced in my opinion, but also easily manipulated by his staff. I've experienced this. His lack of knowledge with all things canal puts him way out of his depth.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 3, 2016 10:35:02 GMT
I don't see Parry as any kind of innocent victim of the aggressive and ill-intentioned knuckle draggers from the upper echelons of C&RT's Enforcement and Legal departments. My own dealings with him, since becoming CEO, have left me convinced that he's a thoroughly nasty piece of work, . . . devious, evasive, dishonest, and above all, very definitely NOT up to the job he's been given. He is, as you say, a PR man through and through. His lack of knowledge with all things canal puts him way out of his depth. . . . . . . . and that's quite an achievement, given the depth that most of our waterways have now been reduced to. As far as I'm aware, he's lasted longer at C&RT than in his previous two jobs, . . . let's hope he doesn't last for much longer, and that someone more capable, honest and straightforward can be found to replace him.
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Post by kris on Jun 3, 2016 11:01:50 GMT
Hurray to that Tony , in my experience parry is a glad handing politician just says what he thinks people want to hear. Well done by the way Tony, you seem to be getting good at putting Crt back in there box.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jun 3, 2016 11:16:26 GMT
Hurray to that Tony , in my experience parry is a glad handing politician just says what he thinks people want to hear. Well done by the way Tony, you seem to be getting good at putting Crt back in there box. I have to admit that the Judges decision was, in truth, not directly brought about by anything I did , but simply a series of minor occurrences, starting with me being unable to attend the hearing due to some very messy and anti-social side-effects from the medication that I'm on at the moment, then progressing with what appears to be a breakdown in communications with the Court by Shoosmiths which culminated in them not attending the hearing either. It's worthy of mention, and a somewhat happy coincidence, that the Judge who made the strike out Order on Wednesday was the same Judge who sat over Andy Wingfield's 2nd Trial in Nottingham last year.
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Post by kris on Jun 3, 2016 12:20:03 GMT
Sorry to hear about the side effects of the drugs Tony, hope you are on the mend soon. In challenging crt's illegal doings, you are helping all boaters. If they reconise and appreciate it or not.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 3, 2016 12:57:54 GMT
I wasn't aware that you were having medical problems Tony ..... must have missed that. wish all the very best John
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 3, 2016 14:48:13 GMT
Its always great to here your comments You are going to hate me for this but I'm going to 'do an Athy' on you: HERE is like THERE HEAR is as in EAR That'll be 5 Pounds, thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 15:07:06 GMT
Its always great to here your comments You are going to hate me for this but I'm going to 'do an Athy' on you: HERE is like THERE HEAR is as in EAR That'll be 5 Pounds, thank you. Do you know what it is Mr Fox,its that predictive text shit where the computer guesses what your about to key in and you forget to read back and correct it.
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