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Post by bargemast on Jan 27, 2018 16:44:52 GMT
have you seen how much the river is in flood? Untying and going for "a little tour" would lead to disaster. I can see that, I don't know the capacity of the boat or how fast the river is. Just pondering. What options are there if the nice men with chainsaws and come alongs ( tifor winch for the uneducated) don't turn up. If there would be no danger with all the crap in the water and possibly in-or near my props, and only a very strong flow of the river, then I could easily have left my mooring, as I've got 2 engines of 125Hp each, which is more than enough to fairly safely do that. The "tifor" is as you say for the uneducated, as the educated ones will surely call them "TI RFOR" , in France they're called "tire-fort" which clearly has the same meaning. Then there are 2 possibilities : 1/ leave the tree attached to the tree ashore, as it's not really bothering me there, I will only fix it with another short piece of rope in that case, as now it's attache with a long rope of mine. 2/ if the current is well reduced, I could undo the rope and push the big tre out past my bow into the middle of the river, and let it follow it's course down stream, where it will get into the first weir downstream, where it will be removed sooner or later by the VNF (like the C&RT in the UK). Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 16:51:08 GMT
I'm a confirmed muddy ditch boater.
I find the views of the rivers in their present state utterly terrifying.
Staying safe is the way to go.
Rog
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2018 17:03:52 GMT
Re tirfor winch, I was being ironic, but not with my spelling mistake! The uneducated people that use them call them "come alongs", though that might be only in the circus world
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Post by bargemast on Jan 27, 2018 17:28:25 GMT
Re tirfor winch, I was being ironic, but not with my spelling mistake! The uneducated people that use them call them "come alongs", though that might be only in the circus world Sorry I thought that it was to indicate how the uneducated called the come-alongs. For spelling mistakes, I think that I'm a specialist making them, but it's often due to my spell checker that's set to froggs language (what a cheap excuse ) I think they commonly known as come-alongs all-over, not only in the circus world. english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/5/25/13009/Arts--Culture/Visual-Art/The-Whole-World-is-a-Circus.aspxPeter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 18:00:28 GMT
I'd haul any wood out with my LugAll winch, cut it up with my bow saw and whackit in the fire.
Sorted. Keeps you warm three ways.
Ideally dynamite would be a nice material to use but its a bit awkward to get.
Having said that when I went on French exchanges as a teenager we used to be able to get very impressive bangers the size of a large banger ! A few of these strapped together might blow the tree out the way ?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 18:04:35 GMT
Re tirfor winch, I was being ironic, but not with my spelling mistake! The uneducated people that use them call them "come alongs", though that might be only in the circus world Tirfor is a brand name. I don't know but I think it come from French "tirer" to pull and "fort" strong. I once had a lovely Tirfor which someone had made a cable drum for. As the cable passes through the winch rather than around a drum it can be annoying using a tirfor type winch because you get cable everywhere. The drum which allowed the cable to feed into it was a good addition. Pulled like a train. Unfortunately I left it on a narrow boat I sold because I had too many things .
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2018 18:10:17 GMT
Re tirfor winch, I was being ironic, but not with my spelling mistake! The uneducated people that use them call them "come alongs", though that might be only in the circus world Tirfor is a brand name. I don't know but I think it come from French "tirer" to pull and "fort" strong. I once had a lovely Tirfor which someone had made a cable drum for. As the cable passes through the winch rather than around a drum it can be annoying so was a good addition. Pulled like a train. Unfortunately I left it on a narrow boat I sold because I had too many things . french derivation sounds likely. First one I had, from a scrapyard, the eye at one end had ripped away, leaving a hole in the casing, cut bash bend and weld some bar onto the casing, job sorted.
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Post by bargemast on Jan 27, 2018 18:44:00 GMT
Tirfor is a brand name. I don't know but I think it come from French "tirer" to pull and "fort" strong. I once had a lovely Tirfor which someone had made a cable drum for. As the cable passes through the winch rather than around a drum it can be annoying so was a good addition. Pulled like a train. Unfortunately I left it on a narrow boat I sold because I had too many things . french derivation sounds likely. First one I had, from a scrapyard, the eye at one end had ripped away, leaving a hole in the casing, cut bash bend and weld some bar onto the casing, job sorted. They were a French invention. Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 19:00:05 GMT
Tirfor is a brand name. I don't know but I think it come from French "tirer" to pull and "fort" strong. I once had a lovely Tirfor which someone had made a cable drum for. As the cable passes through the winch rather than around a drum it can be annoying so was a good addition. Pulled like a train. Unfortunately I left it on a narrow boat I sold because I had too many things . french derivation sounds likely. First one I had, from a scrapyard, the eye at one end had ripped away, leaving a hole in the casing, cut bash bend and weld some bar onto the casing, job sorted. The one I had was a smaller type with pressed steel housing (the bigger ones are cast aluminium), the hook at the back had a hole through it for the cable. Nice design but as the body was two pressed parts bolted together it had started to split near the hook so I had to bolt on some steel straps to prevent the hook coming off. Sounds like a similar unit to the one you describe. Mine was an older version of this one - it looks like on newer units they reinforce the area with extra steelwork which is exactly what I did due to splitting of the steel body. .. Good kit but for lighter work and more ease of use a LugAll is a great bit of gear. I found one of these ones on eBay for sensible money (used but not abused). I love it. Its nice because the cable is integral. This reduces the distance between hooks but it's still a very versatile and useful come-along.
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Post by Jim on Jan 27, 2018 19:10:28 GMT
french derivation sounds likely. First one I had, from a scrapyard, the eye at one end had ripped away, leaving a hole in the casing, cut bash bend and weld some bar onto the casing, job sorted. The one I had was a smaller type with pressed steel housing (the bigger ones are cast aluminium), the hook at the back had a hole through it for the cable. Nice design but as the body was two pressed parts bolted together it had started to split near the hook so I had to bolt on some steel straps to prevent the hook coming off. Sounds like a similar unit to the one you describe. Mine was an older version of this one - it looks like on newer units they reinforce the area with extra steelwork which is exactly what I did due to splitting of the steel body. .. Good kit but for lighter work and more ease of use a LugAll is a great bit of gear. that's the one! Same problem. Only have a 2t chain winch buried away somewhere now, about 1m of roller chain (big bike chain 1" pitch) I used for tightwires. On the boat I have a small engine hoist wire winch, cheap and cheerful, but it will pull a lock open when there's a leak quicker than the fill! Or shift a reluctant swing bridge in the l&l.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 19:15:07 GMT
I've seen those roller chain winches they look like a very nice piece of equipment. I don't have a use for one but they are a pleasant though. If I had all the winches I want then my boat would be submerged or i'd need a lockup (or to be locked up !)
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Post by JohnV on Jan 27, 2018 19:34:29 GMT
the roller chain winches are handy for horizontal use ...... had one but it was nicked along with my van and all my tools and materials.
I have one of the cast ali ones with an extra long bond that I bought as a replacement for my company (used for pulling in very large armoured cables)
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Post by bargemast on Jan 27, 2018 19:54:54 GMT
the roller chain winches are handy for horizontal use ...... had one but it was nicked along with my van and all my tools and materials. I have one of the cast ali ones with an extra long bond that I bought as a replacement for my company (used for pulling in very large armoured cables) I have 2 Yale roller chain winches that I've used mainly for vertical uses like for lifting up engines of the boats free from their supports if they didn't need to be lifted out completely, or for lifting parts of them that were too heavy to lift without one of these. One of them can lift upto 750kg, and the second one upto 2 Tons, but you almost need the small one to lift the heavier one, or do a spinache diet at least 1 month before you have to use the heavy one . Peter.
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Post by patty on Jan 27, 2018 19:56:27 GMT
Ah Peter reading your story made me wish you and your boat was over here cos Im sure we would all have pulled on snazzy waders over our Chinese Wellington boots and rocked up to help.... I could have directionalised the work force and all would have progressed to a 'not quite right' but it'll do conclusion... Stay safe... Patty
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2018 20:00:09 GMT
I found a pair of waders in the bins recently. They looked brand new, and were in a clean bag so I took them. I haven't actually had a close look at them yet - i just chucked them in one of my fleet of boats - so I should probably check so just to make sure they weren't in the bin for a good reason !
Will do that now actually.
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