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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2018 23:27:15 GMT
It's not tiresome Martin it's predictable there's a difference. And I asked you the question first. So who else do you think is responsible other than Crt. You are. Now get on with it and stop wittering. Next you will be demanding that CRT come along to wipe your bottom.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2018 23:31:25 GMT
Doesn't all this really come down to how much you want or need to move. If the need is great (for whatever reason) gather up a few fellow boaters and bow haul the bloody thing through the crap. You're making it very clear how little you understand about how boats and the water they're floating in 'work'. Any boat passing through a very restricted gap, such as between those floodgates and walls, will displace and move water about in just the same way whether it's under power, carrying it's way and drifting, or being bowhauled. The odds on getting jammed in the gates by floating chunks of rubbish is equally great, irrespective of whatever it is that's making the boat move. Exactly the same can be said of putting a narrowboat through a narrow lock, of which I have plenty of experience. If one takes it gently it is not an issue. It is only an issue if you are looking for a reason not to be able to move, or determined that everyone else has a duty to look after you. I think the current buzz phrase is an over-inflated sense of entitlement.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2018 23:33:47 GMT
You misunderstand, I knew it would just become another excuse to have a pop at CRT. well you and nick have just used it as an excuse to have ago at me. The fact is that Crt have a duty to make sure navigation is clear. I'm not blaming the bank staff, I've spoke to them. They used to clear and now they are told not to. So who else is responsible other than Crrt? In this particular instance, you are correct, we are having a go. But for a good reason: your attitude makes you seem a TWAT.
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Post by kris on Jan 29, 2018 23:33:55 GMT
It's not my job to clear the debris for Crt .
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 29, 2018 23:36:36 GMT
It's not my job to clear the debris for Crt . It's your job to have some vague competence at moving your boat. Though you do seem to struggle. Perhaps you would like CRT to send a man to walk ahead of you with a red flag and whistle just in case any ducks decide to swim across your bow?
You don't need to remove the debris, you just need to make your way - cautiously - through it. It isn't some Disney theme park you know! It is the real world where stuff gets into the water especially in times of flood. Get used to it or get a house.
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Post by kris on Jan 29, 2018 23:39:00 GMT
I'd like to see someone walking in front of the boat, that would be a good trick.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 29, 2018 23:41:23 GMT
You're making it very clear how little you understand about how boats and the water they're floating in 'work'. Any boat passing through a very restricted gap, such as between those floodgates and walls, will displace and move water about in just the same way whether it's under power, carrying it's way and drifting, or being bowhauled. The odds on getting jammed in the gates by floating chunks of rubbish is equally great, irrespective of whatever it is that's making the boat move. Exactly the same can be said of putting a narrowboat through a narrow lock, of which I have plenty of experience. If one takes it gently it is not an issue. It is only an issue if you are looking for a reason not to be able to move, or determined that everyone else has a duty to look after you. I think the current buzz phrase is an over-inflated sense of entitlement. Well, that's a new one for me, Nick. Let me into the secret, will you, . . at which single locks do you routinely find rafts of floating rubbish of a comparable size to the one in the photos at the start of this thread ?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 29, 2018 23:45:25 GMT
I'd like to see someone walking in front of the boat, that would be a good trick. He's probably got me in mind for that job, . . there aren't that many suitably qualified folk about.
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Post by kris on Jan 29, 2018 23:58:24 GMT
I'd like to see someone walking in front of the boat, that would be a good trick. He's probably got me in mind for that job, . . there aren't that many suitably qualified folk about. I put Nick in the same category as naughty cal, I don't value what he says very highly. And as for taking instruction on how to sail my boat from a caravaner, well what to say I don't think so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 0:03:50 GMT
He's probably got me in mind for that job, . . there aren't that many suitably qualified folk about. I put Nick in the same category as naughty cal, I don't value what he says very highly. And as for taking instruction on how to sail my boat from a caravaner, well what to say I don't think so. The thing is kris, it's not about being a caravanner that means I have the measure of folk who play the 'hard done by victim' all the time. Its not my job, i can't move my boat blah blah blah......... I worked with folk just like you for the best part of 35 years and I can see the characteristics shining through just about every time you start a thread like this.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 30, 2018 0:08:29 GMT
Exactly the same can be said of putting a narrowboat through a narrow lock, of which I have plenty of experience. If one takes it gently it is not an issue. It is only an issue if you are looking for a reason not to be able to move, or determined that everyone else has a duty to look after you. I think the current buzz phrase is an over-inflated sense of entitlement. Well, that's a new one for me, Nick. Let me into the secret, will you, . . at which single locks do you routinely find rafts of floating rubbish of a comparable size to the one in the photos at the start of this thread ? I guess you haven’t been on the remoter parts of the BCN when the wind has blown the debris into a lock mouth. Not as big as in Kriss’ photos, but in proportion to the size of the lock and the gap, similar. Anyway, his original point and the title of this thread was along the lines of whether it is safe to move. The answer is yes because even in the very unlikely event his enormous steel (or is it iron?) boat somehow manages to become stuck on some bits of wood, that is not an unsafe situation, merely an inconvenient one.
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Post by Telemachus on Jan 30, 2018 0:09:54 GMT
He's probably got me in mind for that job, . . there aren't that many suitably qualified folk about. I put Nick in the same category as naughty cal, I don't value what he says very highly. And as for taking instruction on how to sail my boat from a caravaner, well what to say I don't think so. I think it’s about time you realised that you have an engine, you dont need to wait for a windy day and put the sails up just to move!
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 0:11:03 GMT
It's funny I don't think of myself as a victim. I think you might be projecting Martin
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2018 0:13:05 GMT
It's funny I don't think of myself as a victim. I think you might be projecting Martin Well no of course you don't, that is part of the problem I would suggest.
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Post by kris on Jan 30, 2018 0:14:36 GMT
It's funny I don't think of myself as a victim. I think you might be projecting Martin Well no of course you don't, that is part of the problem I would suggest. so your a qualified psychologist are you?
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