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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 13:43:09 GMT
I'm thinking possibly CRT staff could be temporarily barricaded in their Leeds office using boxes of some type of waste material to block up the doors and windows. That's a crap idea.
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 13:50:03 GMT
I'm thinking possibly CRT staff could be temporarily barricaded in their Leeds office using boxes of some type of waste material to block up the doors and windows. That's actually not a bad idea, some kind of dirty protest. 😃 One of the funniest things I've seen, is security guards running from someone, who had produced a moshed up chocolate bar from his trousers pretending it was something else.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 16:21:04 GMT
Direct action has to affect somebody to get noticed.
It would be pointless blockading a canal, no body would really care a few boaters were mildly inconvieienced.
However do what the Kurds did yesterday at kings cross and Piccadilly in Manchester and you may get some publicity.
Just sayin..
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Post by Saltysplash on Mar 12, 2018 17:01:42 GMT
Trespass on the railway and you could end up in clink, Blockade Watford locks and you'll get a few fists shaken at you.
I've seen the Bargee, plod said the gates belonged to the waterways so it was their problem
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 17:07:40 GMT
Direct action has to affect somebody to get noticed. It would be pointless blockading a canal, no body would really care a few boaters were mildly inconvieienced. However do what the Kurds did yesterday at kings cross and Piccadilly in Manchester and you may get some publicity. Just sayin.. Your right direct action has to effect someone, but wrong in thinking that the effectiveness of the action is directly proportional to the number of people it effects. It's more important the amount of press coverage it gets, the idea of direct action is to bring an issue to the attention of people who wouldn't know about it before. To be honest I think blocking railways over an issue that is concerned with waterways would be counter productive, because most people would think what the fuck have the railways got to do with the canals. In my honest opinion the action yesterday would have been more effective if they had blocked the M25.
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 17:12:31 GMT
Trespass on the railway and you could end up in clink, Blockade Watford locks and you'll get a few fists shaken at you. I've seen the Bargee, plod said the gates belonged to the waterways so it was their problem Exactly, be very clear which law your breaking, what the consequences are. Why your doing it and what your hoping to achieve by doing it.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 12, 2018 17:15:10 GMT
Trespass on the railway and you could end up in clink. Plus there's always the danger that you might get hit by a preserved railway locomotive.
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 17:17:17 GMT
Trespass on the railway and you could end up in clink. Plus there's always the danger that you might get hit by a preserved railway locomotive. Chuffing hell, not again. You just don't miss an opputunity do you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 17:31:01 GMT
He doesn't get out much Rog
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 17:33:32 GMT
Some one ought to buy him a joke book😃
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2018 17:36:30 GMT
I think cart's current managment are incompetent Not at all. They are very competent in giving themselves big salaries and bonuses. That is their objective, isn't it?
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Post by kris on Mar 12, 2018 17:38:01 GMT
I think cart's current managment are incompetent Not at all. They are very competent in giving themselves big salaries and bonuses. That is their objective, isn't it? If you want to take it out context, it becomes a misquote.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2018 17:38:48 GMT
Is that you volunteering then? There might be a few willing to organise some sort of blockade but I think they would be shooting themselves in the foot (assuming their aim is to continue living on a boat on the cut). The meek shall inherit the Earth. If that's OK with everyone else?
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2018 17:42:26 GMT
My thoughts... Sometimes direct action is necessary but only as a last resort. It needs to be well co-ordinated with support from both those who are taking the action and a significant part of the general population (or at least those that support the 'cause') to achieve maximum affect. For now I think the best way is to gather support and mount email campaigns etc. rather than risk potentially pissing off others that could be future supporters. I could be completely wrong though. I think I shall be changing my Facebook avatar in protest!
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 12, 2018 17:47:16 GMT
I played a small part in the direct action in the 70's. It was driven by a conviction that water transport might still have a role as well as preservation of the heritage. With the exception of around a dozen fuel boats and occasional short lived gravel runs, the commercial traffic hasn't happened. Preservation of heritage remains a legitimate goal. However much as I have derived many weeks of pleasure from using the system over the past 47 years, and hope to carry on for many more, the harsh truth is there is absolutely no reason to keep the inland waterways system fully operational other than to facilitate the preferred leisure activities / lifestyle of a very small percentage of the population who contribute a very small proportion of the costs. Walks on the towpath, flora and fauna, water movement and land drainage can all be achieved without operational locks and bridges. What do you have in mind? Vandalise some locks to add to the maintenance burden, a blockade that inconveniences no one except fellow boaters? I suppose we could resurrect the actions of the 70's and do the maintenance ourselves voluntarily .... Yep, that'd show them. Cynical but true. I have played 'Direct Action' by being on strike for 2 weeks at Hertford bus garage around 1988. Result? Management said back to work or piss off. Union voted to go back to work and accept less wages and poorer conditions. I lost 2 weeks' wages for nothing.
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