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Post by zigspider on Apr 5, 2018 17:31:17 GMT
Hi, our survey has shown that our mooring ropes all need replacing due to wear. In looking for a replacement, I found these ropes . Any opinions ? Also need new bow and stern fenders if anyone has recomendations. Cheers, Jerry
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Post by flatdog on Apr 5, 2018 17:39:31 GMT
Which ropes?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 17:56:21 GMT
Unless those ropes are staple spun polypropylene between 12-16mm diameter they are wrong. Staple is the best rope type for steel canal boats. An equivalent product which is slightly easier on the hands is branded as "Hardy Hemp". This is also acceptable. Other opinions are available
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 17:58:27 GMT
The word "ropes" in the op seems to be a link.
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Post by flatdog on Apr 5, 2018 17:59:29 GMT
The word "ropes" in the op seems to be a link. Ahh thanks MM
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 18:00:40 GMT
It does say it's polypropylene but I think its probably split film which is an inferior product to staplespun.
I've seen black rope advertised as staplespun but I don't think it is - its usually white.
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Post by zigspider on Apr 5, 2018 18:53:00 GMT
So if I was to go with hardy hemp, for example, rope how should I have then ends treated ? spliced, back spliced ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2018 19:22:33 GMT
Back splicing is always a pain because it increases the diameter of the rope too much and gets caught on things.
I would go for just having the ends cut with the hot rope cutter. Splicing an eye on one end is a good option but it might well be the wrong size for what you want.
It's quite easy to splice supple rope like polypropylene. Worth trying it yourself. If you don't fancy it then just tie a bowline loop in the end of the rope. That's more or less as strong as a splice and can be undone if you want to try something else. A splice is basically permanent and would need to be cut off if it's the wrong thing.
I actually believe the best termination for ropes if you are unsure is glue lined heatshrink tubing the right size. Personally I do my own ropes with a needle and palm whipping but that is a bit involved and also technically superceded by heat shrink tubing.
One of the annoying things about having an eye spliced by someone else if you have a narrow boat is that it probably won't slip tightly over the stern dollies (if boat has dollies not cleats) which is annoying. When I had a trad narrow boat I spliced my own eyes with bicycle innertube on the eye and made them just the right size to slip tightly over whichever dolly was being used.
This could be seen as slightly anorakish but it worked a treat !
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Post by quaysider on Apr 5, 2018 20:25:04 GMT
Just by the by, but we carry a load of para-cord (chord - hmmm I doubt that's right) as a "back up" in case some scrote cuts our ropes... it's pretty strong and can hold the boat safely ashore in "normal" conditions... better than northing
Handy hint - roll it into a ball (like string) BEFORE you need it or untangling it can be a real pain in the arse.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 5, 2018 20:27:32 GMT
Ropes are just so 19th century. Ratchet straps are the way to go.
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Post by peterboat on Apr 5, 2018 21:19:59 GMT
I like climbing ropes, easier on the hands, and I can get nice blue ones same as the colour of the boat
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Post by quaysider on Apr 6, 2018 6:03:56 GMT
I like climbing ropes, easier on the hands, and I can get nice blue ones same as the colour of the boat remind me again who's the bender here??? ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2018 7:12:11 GMT
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Post by bodger on Apr 6, 2018 7:32:30 GMT
enuff of all this talk about mooring ...................... you really need them for a bit of BDSM don't you? ...... soft sisal is the mutt's hangers.
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Post by IainS on Apr 7, 2018 12:38:19 GMT
Hi, our survey has shown that our mooring ropes all need replacing due to wear. In looking for a replacement, I found these ropes . Any opinions ? Also need new bow and stern fenders if anyone has recomendations. Cheers, Jerry They look OK, the same sort of stuff we use on a trip boat in Edinburgh, although our local "shop" charges £11 for an 11 metre line, so a bit cheaper! (Our own boat uses Hardy Hemp) The eye splice visible isn't tapered, and would offend my sensibilities somewhat My own strategy with mooring ropes is buy a long length, and make up ropes to suit.
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