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Post by kris on Jun 12, 2018 7:15:33 GMT
Just out of interest.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 7:53:46 GMT
I've had excellent assistance whilst on the L&L, from the Wigan flight, Bank Newton, Bingley, and Rodley into Leeds.
The bankside staff have been excellent, and I have every confidence in them.
I suspect the vote was aimed at confidence in C&RT's management to maintain our system and have voted appropriately.
Interestingly a number of bankside staff we have spoken to are actually 'liveaboard boaters' themselves.
Pity one of them cannot be promoted through the ranks, they couldn't do a worse job.
Rog
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Post by kris on Jun 12, 2018 8:05:44 GMT
I know the staff your talking about Nigel, Edward and Richard. I agree with what you say about bank staff. I should maybe have made the poll clearer but there's a limited number of words for the questions and I didn't want to make it too long. But yes I'm asking if people have confidence in the managment of cart their ability to maintain the network but also the direction they are taking cart.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 12, 2018 8:14:11 GMT
A problem that CRT and many other big organisations have, is the way top management is recruited from outside their particular field.
There seems to exist a fanatical belief that only someone with a degree in business studies can do the job.
This results in a management team often lacking an understanding of the fundamentals of the business they are trying to run.
They seem to miss the point that some of the most spectacularly good entrepreneurs have none or very little higher education.
Many of the problems CaRT seem to regularly run into seem to be a result of poor understanding of the technical priorities involved in running an aged canal system and the maintenance problems of often Georgian or Victorian engineering.
If people who have worked up "through the ranks" are encouraged and are given "in company courses" on particular skills they might need for management positions this would be far better than bringing in someone from say a major supermarket chain and expecting them to understand and run a navigation system.
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Post by kris on Jun 12, 2018 8:22:59 GMT
If people who have worked up "through the ranks" are encouraged and are given "in company courses" on particular skills they might need for management positions this would be far better than bringing in someone from say a major supermarket chain and expecting them to understand and run a navigation system. This is exactly the opposite to how cart works. When I worked for them, I saw a number of times when someone with years of working knowledge of the job was passed over to bring someone from outside with no experience of waterways. It's almost as if the managment are scared to promote people you have more knowledge of the waterways than them. I agree it is a great shame.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 8:29:56 GMT
Management's roll should never be about daily working.
They should always be focussed on the future, I understand that.
But at present the management seems to have lost contact with their basic functions, as johnv says.
Unless of course government are actually pulling the strings and directing them?
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 10:19:50 GMT
Management's roll should never be about daily working. They should always be focussed on the future, I understand that. But at present the management seems to have lost contact with their basic functions, as johnv says. Unless of course government are actually pulling the strings and directing them? Rog I think it’s more likely to be those pulling the strings of government. A lot of money is made out of encouraging people to stay in a room/office staring at screen. You don’t make a lot of money out of letting people do things like walking in the countryside, spending time with friends and family, living a simple life on a boat....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 11:41:44 GMT
i ticked no, but only becasue i have been waiting two weeks for a working key to my mooring, its not rocket science to post a key out when you say you will.
Spoke to several people and can never get through to the mooring team or indeed the mooring manager, one women i had to put the phone down on her before i lost my shit.
Its not just the top that have no clue what they are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:26:43 GMT
On my way up I reported to C&RT by email, that the mooring rings on the jetty at Salterforth outside the Anchor Inn, were all missing. Just cruised by and they've all been replaced with new ones Email sent to acknowledge the good work of bank staff. Rog
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Post by peterboat on Jun 12, 2018 12:35:10 GMT
Its always been the management that I have had the problems with bankstaff never a problem, I think CRT need to spend more money training Bank workers up to be management so that people at the top know what CRT is supposed to be doing. Never going to happen though is it? because it all about jobs for the boys [idiots with degrees] who dont have a clue about the waterways
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 12, 2018 12:42:39 GMT
I have a degree and I know just as much about the waterways and am just as competent as anyone on here. Don’t be degreeist!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 12:44:17 GMT
I have a spirit level.
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Jun 12, 2018 12:53:04 GMT
I have a spirit level. Rog When we bought our boat I got various tools etc for tinkering and adding things, including a spirit level. It didn’t take me long to work out that a spirit level is probably the most useless thing to have on a boat! I took it home.
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Post by bargemast on Jun 12, 2018 12:56:37 GMT
When I was reading about all the new regional managers they'd recently employed, in the discription of their previous experience I didn't read anything that was boat related.
Only one guy was thinking about possibly going to live on a boat in the future.
My question is :"What are these people doing in a job that's about stuff they do know nothing about".
If you would ask them what they know about water, I wouldn't be surprised if they answer that it comes out off the tap, as that's the only water they have experience with.
Peter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 13:13:53 GMT
I have a spirit level. Rog When we bought our boat I got various tools etc for tinkering and adding things, including a spirit level. It didn’t take me long to work out that a spirit level is probably the most useless thing to have on a boat! I took it home. And you have a degree?
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