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Nov 25, 2018 17:54:56 GMT
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Post by Jim on Nov 25, 2018 17:54:56 GMT
You've given the game away, it would have to be shared by pm, secret like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 17:57:46 GMT
The password is "twatwatwat"
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Post by TonyDunkley on Nov 25, 2018 17:59:14 GMT
It appears from comments on CWDF that quite a number read the forum regularly at least as visitors. Rog That's right, . . if you want to get up the noses of the CWDF politburo and their adoring hangers-on, then the most effective way is via intentionally offensive posts on here, . . anything like that posted on CWDF is obliterated by the mods almost immediately, but posted on here they can't get rid of it !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 18:07:05 GMT
You've given the game away, it would have to be shared by pm, secret like. What about a secret facebook group ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 18:19:19 GMT
It appears from comments on CWDF that quite a number read the forum regularly at least as visitors. I can't help but feel that CWDF's problems are all of their own devising. Rog Is it the simple fact that it is a moderated forum? What's to be frightened of? The odd bit of swearing? FFS! Generally we seem to peer review our posts if someone strays too far from the general concensus, though I have seen it used as a stick to beat others with, using insulting and intemperate language while complaining about a sweary post. Some of us have a bit of fun baiting others we disagree with, but it can never lead to a ban as was the situation with Gareth E / Ricco. The yappie Yorkshire pooch and the sheep bothered set out to be disruptive. They could only do that because there were rules and Mods. Too good an opportunity to pass up.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 25, 2018 22:25:17 GMT
I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to technology: how do the mods over identify sock puppet accounts? In my case it's obvious, it was brought to their attention by MJG. The surprise really was that the mods were aware of that and let it run, even allowing a 'spat' between MJG and I to lead to a warning that any repeat would lead to me going on 'mod queue', and then earning a warning point on the day the Brexit thread was closed down. I was then banned seemingly out of the blue.
I'm wondering if maybe our i.p. addresses are part of it? Would going on to a proxy server solve this? It might sound a bit sad but I'm of a mind to build up a healthy stock of sock puppet accounts. These could be used for genuine purposes over there, I do like to use the forum as well as this one, other accounts to send abusive messages to the likes of Graham Davies (I know he heads messages on this forum: knobhead) with the full intention of getting banned.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 25, 2018 22:50:15 GMT
I'm a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to technology: how do the mods over identify sock puppet accounts? In my case it's obvious, it was brought to their attention by MJG. The surprise really was that the mods were aware of that and let it run, even allowing a 'spat' between MJG and I to lead to a warning that any repeat would lead to me going on 'mod queue', and then earning a warning point on the day the Brexit thread was closed down. I was then banned seemingly out of the blue. I'm wondering if maybe our i.p. addresses are part of it? Would going on to a proxy server solve this? It might sound a bit sad but I'm of a mind to build up a healthy stock of sock puppet accounts. These could be used for genuine purposes over there, I do like to use the forum as well as this one, other accounts to send abusive messages to the likes of Graham Davies (I know he heads messages on this forum: knobhead) with the full intention of getting banned. In your case yes surely you were identified by a tip-off. Of cours the current mods are a different batch from those who expunged you previously so they probably don’t particularly care unless they are forced to. IP addresses are generally fluid things. Unless you have cable broadband, rebooting your rooter usually gets you a new IP address.or of course using someone else’s router eg public broadband in Wetherspoons etc. As I understand it, you unique MAC address (built into your phone/tablet/laptop/pc) doesn’t make it past the router. Direct mobile connection seems to be a different matter. There is a thing called Payforit which allows destination websites to identify you uniquely based on the mobile device’s phone number. Whether your actual phone number is broadcast, or some encrypted version of it I’m not sure, but doesn’t matter too much - it is unique to your device as it stands. However using a different SIM would I think get around this. You’d just have to remember to pop in the right SIM before posting on CWDF.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 26, 2018 19:33:05 GMT
Well I have to hand it to them over there, they've certainly upped their game with security. You can't join through a proxy server. I usually use a laptop for internet find a phone too fiddly but when I tried that no go, Android is no good for getting through the security.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 26, 2018 19:52:30 GMT
Well I have to hand it to them over there, they've certainly upped their game with security. You can't join through a proxy server. I usually use a laptop for internet find a phone too fiddly but when I tried that no go, Android is no good for getting through the security. So if you use your laptop on a different WiFi connection, do you still find it won’t work? Obviously before attempting, you need to clear all cookies otherwise your browser will report exactly who you are!
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Post by Clinton Cool on Nov 26, 2018 20:37:06 GMT
I only have the one internet connection on my laptop, it's through a dongle. If I clear cookies and saved passwords etc. and go to canalworld it comes up straight away: banned! Technology isn't an area of strength for me.
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 26, 2018 20:45:46 GMT
I only have the one internet connection on my laptop, it's through a dongle. If I clear cookies and saved passwords etc. and go to canalworld it comes up straight away: banned! Technology isn't an area of strength for me. The dongle has a mobile phone number (even though it isn’t a phone) and thus a SIM, and this is the giveaway I think. You could try getting another cheapo SIM for it. I think this would fix the problem but not totally sure that the dongle’s MAC address isn’t also sent. Have you tried connecting via some public WiFi (Wetherspoons etc)? Surely that would work (with cleared cookies)? edit: But if it does, don’t say so for a while. There are spies everywhere!
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Post by IainS on Nov 26, 2018 20:49:53 GMT
In your case yes surely you were identified by a tip-off. Of cours the current mods are a different batch from those who expunged you previously so they probably don’t particularly care unless they are forced to. IP addresses are generally fluid things. Unless you have cable broadband, rebooting your rooter usually gets you a new IP address.or of course using someone else’s router eg public broadband in Wetherspoons etc. As I understand it, you unique MAC address (built into your phone/tablet/laptop/pc) doesn’t make it past the router. (snip) If the router at the CWDF end sends an ARP (Address Resolution Protocol) packet to the IP address you're connecting from., it should return the MAC address of the local router. As the address length on an ARP packet is variable, I don't see any reason why a port number couldn't be added to return the MAC address of the device which originated the connection. (Really long time since I had anything to with TCP/IP networking, so don't know if it would work or not!)
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Post by Telemachus on Nov 26, 2018 20:57:19 GMT
In your case yes surely you were identified by a tip-off. Of cours the current mods are a different batch from those who expunged you previously so they probably don’t particularly care unless they are forced to. IP addresses are generally fluid things. Unless you have cable broadband, rebooting your rooter usually gets you a new IP address.or of course using someone else’s router eg public broadband in Wetherspoons etc. As I understand it, you unique MAC address (built into your phone/tablet/laptop/pc) doesn’t make it past the router. (snip) If the router at the CWDF end sends an ARP (Address Resolution Protocol) packet to the IP address you're connecting from., it should return the MAC address of the local router. As the address length on an ARP packet is variable, I don't see any reason why a port number couldn't be added to return the MAC address of the device which originated the connection. (Really long time since I had anything to with TCP/IP networking, so don't know if it would work or not!) As I understand it, the NAT in a router means the MAC address of a connected device isn’t passed through. However in Ricco’s case he is connecting through a dongle, which isn’t the same thing as a router. For starters, most non-cable routers have a different WAN IP address on reboot (hence the need for Dynamic DNS Services) whereas I don’t think a Dongle does. But obviously if the MAC address of the router or the Dongle is logged (which I’m sure it is) then it would be easy to reject a connection from specified MAC addresses. However if Ricco connects his laptop to the internet by some other means (pub Wi-fi etc) then I struggle to see how he can be identified, provided cookies are cleared. Would be free to try, anyway. And interesting to hear the result.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2018 20:59:21 GMT
I only have the one internet connection on my laptop, it's through a dongle. If I clear cookies and saved passwords etc. and go to canalworld it comes up straight away: banned! Technology isn't an area of strength for me. The dongle has a mobile phone number (even though it isn’t a phone) and thus a SIM, and this is the giveaway I think. You could try getting another cheapo SIM for it. I think this would fix the problem but not totally sure that the dongle’s MAC address isn’t also sent. Have you tried connecting via some public WiFi (Wetherspoons etc)? Surely that would work (with cleared cookies)? edit: But if it does, don’t say so for a while. There are spies everywhere! In your case yes surely you were identified by a tip-off. Of cours the current mods are a different batch from those who expunged you previously so they probably don’t particularly care unless they are forced to. IP addresses are generally fluid things. Unless you have cable broadband, rebooting your rooter usually gets you a new IP address.or of course using someone else’s router eg public broadband in Wetherspoons etc. As I understand it, you unique MAC address (built into your phone/tablet/laptop/pc) doesn’t make it past the router. (snip) If the router at the CWDF end sends an ARP (Address Resolution Protocol) packet to the IP address you're connecting from., it should return the MAC address of the local router. As the address length on an ARP packet is variable, I don't see any reason why a port number couldn't be added to return the MAC address of the device which originated the connection. (Really long time since I had anything to with TCP/IP networking, so don't know if it would work or not!) You two have gone way past the course of action Ricco should take with his IT issues - it sounds like switching it off and on again isn’t the answer, meaning there can only be one solution. 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨👍
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Post by rockdodger on Nov 26, 2018 21:05:45 GMT
The dongle has a mobile phone number (even though it isn’t a phone) and thus a SIM, and this is the giveaway I think. You could try getting another cheapo SIM for it. I think this would fix the problem but not totally sure that the dongle’s MAC address isn’t also sent. Have you tried connecting via some public WiFi (Wetherspoons etc)? Surely that would work (with cleared cookies)? edit: But if it does, don’t say so for a while. There are spies everywhere! If the router at the CWDF end sends an ARP (Address Resolution Protocol) packet to the IP address you're connecting from., it should return the MAC address of the local router. As the address length on an ARP packet is variable, I don't see any reason why a port number couldn't be added to return the MAC address of the device which originated the connection. (Really long time since I had anything to with TCP/IP networking, so don't know if it would work or not!) You two have gone way past the course of action Ricco should take with his IT issues - it sounds like switching it off and on again isn’t the answer, meaning there can only be one solution. 🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨🔨👍 Then buy a new one while the Black Friday & Cyber Monday sales are still on🤔
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