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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 12:35:52 GMT
Facilities that were once free are now chargable here in the Flatlands. - GOBA winter edition newsletter had details of the charges being implemented on the Great Ouse.
Other charges Pump-out token charges A token will also be required to use our pump-outs on the River Nene at Northampton Marina and Wellingborough Embankment and on the Black Sluice navigation at Hubbert’s Bridge. Certain pump-outs at other locations, such as on the Great Ouse, may also see a charge introduced in the future. The charge for these is £10
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 12:37:52 GMT
Facilities that were once free are now chargable here in the Flatlands. - GOBA winter edition newsletter had details of the charges being implemented on the Great Ouse. Other charges Pump-out token charges A token will also be required to use our pump-outs on the River Nene at Northampton Marina and Wellingborough Embankment and on the Black Sluice navigation at Hubbert’s Bridge. Certain pump-outs at other locations, such as on the Great Ouse, may also see a charge introduced in the future. The charge for these is £10 A very good reason not to have a pump out, as if anymore than the obvious where needed.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:00:22 GMT
Facilities that were once free are now chargable here in the Flatlands. - GOBA winter edition newsletter had details of the charges being implemented on the Great Ouse. Other charges Pump-out token charges A token will also be required to use our pump-outs on the River Nene at Northampton Marina and Wellingborough Embankment and on the Black Sluice navigation at Hubbert’s Bridge. Certain pump-outs at other locations, such as on the Great Ouse, may also see a charge introduced in the future. The charge for these is £10 A very good reason not to have a pump out, as if anymore than the obvious where needed. Hateful things It's not always the Navigation Authority responsible for pulling the plug on services - Peterborough City council seem desperate to get rid of the boaters facilities on the Embankment - we lost the showers years ago - Elsan seems on a knife edge these days. This probably needs a thread of it's own - erivers is more clued up on this tbh. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/695973/Anglian-waterways-vessel-registration-charges-1-April-2018-to-31-March-2019.pdfAnglian Waterways Vessel registration charges The Environment Agency hereby fixes the charges for the year commencing 1 April 2018, payable under Section 43 Environment Act 1995, as applied by Section 17 Anglian Water Authority Act 1977 (the Act), in respect of the services provided for and the facilities made available to vessels using the recreational waterways as defined by the Act; such charges to be paid on demand or as may be otherwise required. The charges have been fixed on the principle that the cost of maintaining the navigable channels and navigation works under Section 8 and 12 of the Act and generally discharging the functions under the Act in relation to the use by vessels of recreational waterways shall be met by those who own or use the vessels, having regard to the changes currently made by other water and navigation authorities providing a similar service and similar facilities, taking into account the kind and length of vessel, and the Environment Agency’s power to raise revenue for navigation. The charge shall be payable in respect of any vessel on a recreational waterway at any time in the year, and shall be paid by the person in whose name the vessel is registered under the Environment Agency (Inland Waterways) Order 2010 (the Order). If a vessel is not so registered then the charge shall be paid by the owner of the vessel or by any person who uses the same at any time in the year. Only one charge shall be made in respect of any one vessel in the year, except that, if a vessel subsequently uses a recreational waterway or waterways in respect of which a higher charge is payable, an additional amount equal to the difference between the charge paid and the higher charge shall then become payable. The charge for a vessel shall be as prescribed as above, according to the recreational waterways or waterways named, which the vessel is using or is to use; subject to any other charge or discount listed. Words or expressions used herein shall have the same meaning as defined in the Act and the Order.
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 13:02:37 GMT
In this respect cart seem to be copying what's happened on Anglian waterways then.
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Post by Jim on Dec 5, 2018 13:02:39 GMT
My understanding is that all the facilities at BWML marinas are being withdrawn for non marina moorers, unsurprising really due to the sell off. Not sure if the facilities you mention are at the marina or not. The marinas facilities where withdrawn from General boaters use when BWML was spun off from Bw when cart was formed. The facilities I'm talking about where at castleford no where near a bwml marina. But because the marina at lemonroyd facilities are no longer available for use it means Leeds is the nearest for most people. A long way to go to empty your bog, especially as the facilities at Leeds spend a lot of time closed. The elsan point at Lemonroyd is available for use, at least it was in September. I thought the block at Fall Ing was open but it's only for the moorers there.
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 13:06:58 GMT
The marinas facilities where withdrawn from General boaters use when BWML was spun off from Bw when cart was formed. The facilities I'm talking about where at castleford no where near a bwml marina. But because the marina at lemonroyd facilities are no longer available for use it means Leeds is the nearest for most people. A long way to go to empty your bog, especially as the facilities at Leeds spend a lot of time closed. The eksan point is available for use, at least it was in September. I thought the block at Fall Ing was open but it's only for the moorers there. They've been pulled down and the bins removed from the other side apprarently according to a friend moored in the area I was talking to the other day. The guy from the fishing club in the house next to the bins used to always come out and see what you where putting n the bins, so I suppose he has applied pressure for them to be removed. I always wondered about the fishing club there, as it's called "lock landing angling" I always though angling on lock landings wasnt allowed in the byelaws?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 13:24:37 GMT
Lock landing angling (LLA) is the technique of choosing the correct approach when steering a boat slower and slower towards the side so you can get off and tie it up.
If you get LLA angle wrong you end up having to faff and reverse and it all goes pear shaped.
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 13:28:14 GMT
Lock landing angling (LLA) is the technique of choosing the correct approach when steering a boat slower and slower towards the side so you can get off and tie it up. If you get LLA angle wrong you end up having to faff and reverse and it all goes pear shaped. It might well be, but at castleford it's a fishing club.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 5, 2018 15:26:26 GMT
I'd just take our Thetford round to the Town Hall and say I want to tip this down one of their bogs. Either that or in the Mayor's office, if there aren't canalside services. Direct Action. Why the council? Surely the local cart offices would be more appropriate. If out of hours you could always post it through the letterbox. There aren't many CRT offices, there are many more Town Halls. Let the councillors deal with CRT if CRT aren't providing enough sanitation facilities. These councillors get elected because they wish to represent the people, so let'em get on with it.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 5, 2018 15:30:05 GMT
A very good reason not to have a pump out, as if anymore than the obvious where needed. It's not always the Navigation Authority responsible for pulling the plug on services - Peterborough City council seem desperate to get rid of the boaters facilities on the Embankment Nearest Elsan tipping point: Peterborough City Council Town Hall Bridge Street Peterborough PE1 1HG
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 15:37:52 GMT
Why the council? Surely the local cart offices would be more appropriate. If out of hours you could always post it through the letterbox. There aren't many CRT offices, there are many more Town Halls. Let the councillors deal with CRT if CRT aren't providing enough sanitation facilities. These councillors get elected because they wish to represent the people, so let'em get on with it. It's nothing to do with local councils
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 5, 2018 15:54:13 GMT
It is when you take your cassette round to them. They don't like it when you visit. Tip your Elsan down one of their loos, if they shout "Oi, you can't do that!" just say "Yes I can, I've just done it, and anyway kris says it's nothing to do with you!"
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 16:10:35 GMT
It is when you take your cassette round to them. They don't like it when you visit. Tip your Elsan down one of their loos, if they shout "Oi, you can't do that!" just say "Yes I can, I've just done it, and anyway kris says it's nothing to do with you!" Surely of your trying to make a point about a situation it's better to make that point to the organisation that can do something about it ? Or is there no point trying to have a rational discussion with you?
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 5, 2018 16:22:21 GMT
I don't think you are brave enough to walk into a own Hall and say "CRT have removed the Elsan disposal point and I have a cassette full of faeces here, where am I supposed to dump it?" Although, hang on a moment, why are you even on about closed Elsan points... what happened with the composting idea?
I often temper my criticism of CRT with Stabby's mention of how much you'd pay in domestic water rates if you were to use 190,000 gallons as is to be found in just the Tuel Lane lock; it's not always easy to say are boat licences expensive or cheap or, indeed, fair.
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Post by kris on Dec 5, 2018 16:32:01 GMT
Although, hang on a moment, why are you even on about closed Elsan points... what happened with the composting idea? Yes I use a compost loo. But I am concerned about all of the waterways not just the bits I use, unlike some people.
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