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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 22:12:05 GMT
Usually when I read posts like this one, I wouuld ask what you suggest happens to those you refer to? Is it a sin to be poor financially? Is it a sin to want to live in a small space and enjoy a simple life? You are a twat Sir! I prefer a simple life living in a small space too What I am suggesting would have a negative impact on my quality of life personally. Maybe you don't realise that I am talking about the bigger picture. The answer to your question about what happens to people is that they would move to an area where they can afford to live. as I said if there were more residential moorings (I'd like to see a lot more in all areas on canals but sadly that won't happen because of the speed freaks) then obviously the costs would come down in less economically active areas and people would be able to claim assistance like people do in land based dwellings. Its a false argument to say what about people who can not afford to live. You are suggesting the canals are full of people who would otherwise be homeless. That is total bollocks and you know it. There are some in that position yes which is why I suggest local council management but they are a minority the majority are on boats for financial advantage. Some people are even happy to own property rent it to someone else and live on a boat while the going is good. No risk there. No long term interest in living on boats. Just parasites. There are different types of parasites. They range from those who give a lot back, to those who kill their hosts. The problem is that many people only see things in monetary terms. The most important thing (in my opinion) is the time you put in. In fact I’d go as far to say that money just gets in the way. If you want to get to the truth, don’t search for answers here, go and and talk to those you judge, face to face. Go on, I dare you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 22:17:17 GMT
Taking a break from the forum for a while. All ok, suspect I'll be back but cheerio for now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 22:18:44 GMT
I prefer a simple life living in a small space too What I am suggesting would have a negative impact on my quality of life personally. Maybe you don't realise that I am talking about the bigger picture. The answer to your question about what happens to people is that they would move to an area where they can afford to live. as I said if there were more residential moorings (I'd like to see a lot more in all areas on canals but sadly that won't happen because of the speed freaks) then obviously the costs would come down in less economically active areas and people would be able to claim assistance like people do in land based dwellings. Its a false argument to say what about people who can not afford to live. You are suggesting the canals are full of people who would otherwise be homeless. That is total bollocks and you know it. There are some in that position yes which is why I suggest local council management but they are a minority the majority are on boats for financial advantage. Some people are even happy to own property rent it to someone else and live on a boat while the going is good. No risk there. No long term interest in living on boats. Just parasites. There are different types of parasites. They range from those who give a lot back, to those who kill their hosts. The problem is that many people only see things in monetary terms. The most important thing (in my opinion) is the time you put in. In fact I’d go as far to say that money just gets in the way. If you want to get to the truth, don’t search for answers here, go and and talk to those you judge, face to face. Go on, I dare you. Not his style. He prefers to troll sites like this and pass judgement on others. His biggest fear is that everyone will fuck up his own little life. He has no for empathy for others, he's only interested in his own little world.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 22:28:23 GMT
Taking a break from the forum for a while. All ok, suspect I'll be back but cheerio for now. It is just an internet forum! Like any tool it has good and bad moments. It will never replace real life so long as we all have feelings.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 22:54:25 GMT
I think what is notable is the fact that BW were struggling, but, they had a department and staff for the relevant parts of the canals. Fundamentally, they managed to do this with under half of the present income CRT gets. A billion pounds has slipped through CRT's sticky fingers since 2012. That equates to one million pounds per mile of canal. Serious money, and frankly, little to show for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2018 23:14:33 GMT
I think what is notable is the fact that BW were struggling, but, they had a department and staff for the relevant parts of the canals. Fundamentally, they managed to do this with under half of the present income CRT gets. A billion pounds has slipped through CRT's sticky fingers since 2012. That equates to one million pounds per mile of canal. Serious money, and frankly, little to show for it. Well I guess inflation is a factor since BWB run the show, but your sentiments are bang on. It comes back to the argument that...how come canals have been renevated by volunteers giving up their time, yet BWB and CRT struggle to maintain what’s already there given the millions of tax payers money? What’s worse is when you volunteer to help improve the navigation and it’s not accepted by CRT (or ex CRT) staff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 6:27:39 GMT
Just read the four pages of this thread, and wonder if someone could explain who 'newboater' with the deleted account is/was please?
I assume it was not a new member.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 6:32:07 GMT
Its AI V3.142
I guess he was getting tired of jenlyn's remarkable unpleasantness and constant attempt to shut up anyone who disagrees with him.
Not quite sure what's going on there or why there is this behaviour but it seems to work as intended. I guess it is the default reliance on highly aggressive personal attacks which grinds people down.
Is it really worth it? No probably not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 6:59:49 GMT
If you want to get to the truth, don’t search for answers here, go and and talk to those you judge, face to face. Go on, I dare you. The problem with this comment is it assumes that you know who I do or don't mix with. You have no idea. Ironically your comment is a direct assumption about and judgement on me - which is exactly what you accuse me of doing I am not making any judgements on individuals. Can you point to anywhere I have judged an individual for their behaviour?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 7:17:53 GMT
Its AI V3.142 I guess he was getting tired of jenlyn's remarkable unpleasantness and constant attempt to shut up anyone who disagrees with him. Not quite sure what's going on there or why there is this behaviour but it seems to work as intended. I guess it is the default reliance on highly aggressive personal attacks which grinds people down. Is it really worth it? No probably not. I thought Lord Charles insensitive personal comments toward @newboater were pretty low and shitty too.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Dec 6, 2018 8:07:50 GMT
Usually when I read posts like this one, I wouuld ask what you suggest happens to those you refer to? Is it a sin to be poor financially? Is it a sin to want to live in a small space and enjoy a simple life? You are a twat Sir! I prefer a simple life living in a small space too What I am suggesting would have a negative impact on my quality of life personally. Maybe you don't realise that I am talking about the bigger picture. The answer to your question about what happens to people is that they would move to an area where they can afford to live. as I said if there were more residential moorings (I'd like to see a lot more in all areas on canals but sadly that won't happen because of the speed freaks) then obviously the costs would come down in less economically active areas and people would be able to claim assistance like people do in land based dwellings. Its a false argument to say what about people who can not afford to live. You are suggesting the canals are full of people who would otherwise be homeless. That is total bollocks and you know it. There are some in that position yes which is why I suggest local council management but they are a minority the majority are on boats for financial advantage. Some people are even happy to own property rent it to someone else and live on a boat while the going is good. No risk there. No long term interest in living on boats. Just parasites. Seems I fulfil most of the criteria for being a parasite. I own houses that I rent to others but choose to live on a boat. I do this for 2 reasons. First because I enjoy it, the thought of being stuck on some housing estate makes me shudder. I also enjoy working out practical solutions to problems, upgrades, maintenance, that kind of thing. Secondly, if I lived in one of my houses I could just about survive, financially, but it wouldn't be a fun life, even though I don't need much to get by on. I like to go abroad once or twice a year, it's what I like to do in life, other people like to have kids etc. I guess I could live in one of my houses to appease some, then one of the families living in the house would have to uproot and find somewhere else, join an ever lengthening queue for an under supply of houses with an ever growing population. I know some feel that buy to let landlords are parasites sucking the blood of socialist welfare payment systems but other than that, whose blood is this particular parasite sucking?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 9:32:46 GMT
Its AI V3.142 I guess he was getting tired of jenlyn's remarkable unpleasantness and constant attempt to shut up anyone who disagrees with him. Not quite sure what's going on there or why there is this behaviour but it seems to work as intended. I guess it is the default reliance on highly aggressive personal attacks which grinds people down. Is it really worth it? No probably not. I thought Lord Charles insensitive personal comments toward @newboater were pretty low and shitty too. No lower and shittier than his. On two occasions he has specifically picked me out for attack, not really a problem until it becomes clear that the other person does not like some back. There is little difference between myself and "some" of you on here, so don't come here waving your holier than thou tshirt. He chose to start the argument, not me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 9:45:08 GMT
I thought Lord Charles insensitive personal comments toward @newboater were pretty low and shitty too. No lower and shittier than his. On two occasions he has specifically picked me out for attack, not really a problem until it becomes clear that the other person does not like some back. There is little difference between myself and "some" of you on here, so don't come here waving your holier than thou tshirt. He chose to start the argument, not me. I wasn't being holier than thou - I consider it a shitty thing to do - no more no less. <iframe width="32.5" height="6.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 32.5px; height: 6.439999999999998px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_29762017" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.5" height="6.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 32.5px; height: 6.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1556px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_3896107" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.5" height="6.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 32.5px; height: 6.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 259px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_89733822" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="32.5" height="6.439999999999998" style="position: absolute; width: 32.5px; height: 6.44px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1556px; top: 259px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_56785029" scrolling="no"></iframe> It's one thing arguing the toss but calling someone out about their health and well-being on a public forum like you did is not on - at least to me anyway.
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 6, 2018 10:06:02 GMT
Its not all about London freeloaders there are quite a lot of other places on the cut where there are... (goes on for several pages... ZZZzzzzz....) Howzabout Thunderboat making its own Boat List, like Jim Shead's, but with more juicy details. Photo(s) of as many boats as we can grab as we're passing, and a description of whether the boat owner is a genuine bona-fide navigator or continuous moorer, or a piss-taker. Photos of the owner too, in case they are violent psychopaths so that other boaters cruising past them may avoid chit-chat. Each boat's listing would need to be constructed in such a way that info can be added or (under threat of court action for libel??!!) removed. Beside each listing could be added symbols, stars perhaps? Gold star = perfectly friendly and charming, boat up to scratch. licence, BSS, etc. all up-to-date, Blue star = pretty average, no problems, Red star = total nutter and all-round piss-taking git avoid entirely! Anyone can do it - just snap boats and gradually build up your own list. An enjoyable hobby. Even could make a book out of it. Why do such catalogues not already exist?
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Post by naughtyfox on Dec 6, 2018 10:09:03 GMT
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