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Post by Andyberg on Jan 20, 2019 20:47:28 GMT
]Right I'm off to look at marinas. remeber they charge double for widebeams. My woman is currently looking at selling her wide-beam for exactly that reason and changing to a narrowboat... Paying for 2 berths = £3700 per year for the wide-beam!
I moored my wide-beam on BW line moorings at Burscough for exactly that reason when I had that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 20:47:56 GMT
That's good. Another reason not to go into a marina.
My current residential mooring has a slightly different problem which is that the planning consent only allows narrow boats but the mooring is full of wide boats ! Fixed mooring fee regardless of vessel size.
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Post by kris on Jan 20, 2019 20:49:47 GMT
It does make marinas excessively exspensive for widebeams. I think there will be a lot of widebeams for sale when the tax kicks in.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 20:51:23 GMT
It does make marinas excessively exspensive for widebeams. I think there will be a lot of widebeams for sale when the tax kicks in. You mean that the wide beam surcharge applies to moorings as well as cruising license? I thought it only applied to the cruising license
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Post by kris on Jan 20, 2019 21:00:33 GMT
It does make marinas excessively exspensive for widebeams. I think there will be a lot of widebeams for sale when the tax kicks in. You mean that the wide beam surcharge applies to moorings as well as cruising license? I thought it only applied to the cruising license No, but I think the increasing costs including mooring fees will mean that people will sell them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:02:03 GMT
I guess that and the fact they realise living in a marina is such an awful nightmare could flood the market.
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Post by kris on Jan 20, 2019 21:04:05 GMT
Some people seem to enjoy marinas, I don't think it would be for me.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 20, 2019 21:08:07 GMT
What do you do when you clout a lock or a bridge? Tie up and sit it out for half an hour? If that is a consideration the tank needs cleaning! Stabbers is right, I think - I'd say the force of the flow downwards from the fuel pipe nozzle could be enough to stir things up at the bottom. The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling. Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:18:13 GMT
Stabbers is right, I think - I'd say the force of the flow downwards from the fuel pipe nozzle could be enough to stir things up at the bottom. The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling. Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff. I must be missing something here. Do you refuel your car and truck with the engine running?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 20, 2019 21:34:02 GMT
The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling. Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff. I must be missing something here. Do you refuel your car and truck with the engine running? No, and many trucks even have a sticker on the fuel tank telling the driver to ensure that the night heater is turned off before refuelling (and for the exact same reason, residue being stirred up from the bottom of the tank). But as I said, Dickhead Dunkley is entitled to have a different opinion, it's a free country and I always have and always will support equal access internet rights for the terminally stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2019 21:52:43 GMT
I must be missing something here. Do you refuel your car and truck with the engine running? No, and many trucks even have a sticker on the fuel tank telling the driver to ensure that the night heater is turned off before refuelling (and for the exact same reason, residue being stirred up from the bottom of the tank). But as I said, Dickhead Dunkley is entitled to have a different opinion, it's a free country and I always have and always will support equal access internet rights for the terminally stupid. So that being the case why would you refuel a boat with the engine running?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jan 20, 2019 21:54:40 GMT
No, and many trucks even have a sticker on the fuel tank telling the driver to ensure that the night heater is turned off before refuelling (and for the exact same reason, residue being stirred up from the bottom of the tank). But as I said, Dickhead Dunkley is entitled to have a different opinion, it's a free country and I always have and always will support equal access internet rights for the terminally stupid. So that being the case why would you refuel a boat with the engine running? I don't know, you'd have to ask Tony Dunkley that.
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 20, 2019 21:55:54 GMT
Stabbers is right, I think - I'd say the force of the flow downwards from the fuel pipe nozzle could be enough to stir things up at the bottom. The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling. Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff. I usually turn my bus engine off out of respect for the sign at the fuelling point but I really don't see any fire or explosion happening if it's left running - and then what if it won't start again... and anyway, when it's f-f-f-freezing let the engine and heater run, say I! When it's -25C and you're a popsicle, you really don't give 2 figs for Global Warming and in fact just wish it would hurry up and arrive!
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 20, 2019 21:56:28 GMT
The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling. Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff. Do you refuel your bus with the engine running? Yes.
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Post by TonyDunkley on Jan 21, 2019 0:40:01 GMT
Stabbers is right, I think - I'd say the force of the flow downwards from the fuel pipe nozzle could be enough to stir things up at the bottom. The bottom line is that two different opinions are being expressed here, I'm saying that it is best practice to turn an engine off when refuelling, Tony Dunkley says that this advice is "stupid" and it is best practice to keep an engine running when refuelling.Funnily enough, when I was taking on diesel at Turner's in Wheaton Aston last year, the garage proprietor instructed the boater ahead of me to turn his engine off, and when asked why gave the exact same reason as I have given. Still, this is a forum, and as with any forum where opposing advice is given it is up to the end user to sort the wheat from the chaff. I've re-posted what I said on page 4 of this thread, in italic bold below, . . just in case anyone new to TB reads the above post without realizing that it was made by someone incapable of rational thought or understanding plain written English. The response was primarily aimed at Mr Shit-for-Brains idiotic advice, which was - quote - " to not start the engine for 20-30 minutes after fuelling up, as the act of refuelling can disturb any sediment laying at the bottom of the tank, which then gets sucked into the filters". Here is what I in fact said :- " If there's ANY sediment, water, or any other sort of muck in propulsion engine fuel tanks it needs discovering, and removing, at the earliest possible opportunity.
To suggest adopting fueling-up procedures intended to disguise a serious and potentially dangerous problem such as dirty fuel tanks is the height of stupidity."
Read more: thunderboat.boards.net/thread/4556/liveaboards-marina-moorings?page=5#ixzz5dCD8nWT3
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