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Post by paulj on Jan 22, 2019 15:41:45 GMT
One session filling it with petrol will make oil changes academic 🔥🔥🔥🙈 Why can't you fill a petrol engine's tank with petrol whilst the engine's running? What does it matter? It's not like you're spraying petrol all over a hot engine. What about the old bollocks about not using a mobile phone whilst at a petrol station 'in case the radio waves caused an explosion' or some old bollocks like that? What a load of old bollocks. Cos you get could get sparks from many places-distributors,coils,leads etc and petrol fumes love sparks! 😀
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Post by naughtyfox on Jan 22, 2019 15:45:51 GMT
Why can't you fill a petrol engine's tank with petrol whilst the engine's running? What does it matter? It's not like you're spraying petrol all over a hot engine. What about the old bollocks about not using a mobile phone whilst at a petrol station 'in case the radio waves caused an explosion' or some old bollocks like that? What a load of old bollocks. Cos you get could get sparks from many places-distributors,coils,leads etc and petrol fumes love sparks! 😀 OK - but distributors and coils are to be found only in museums these days of fuel injection.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 15:54:13 GMT
A lot of small cruisers have older petrol engines in them by definition. If the boat has been upgraded it would usually have had a drop-in diesel unit rather than a more modern petrol unit.
Not universal but I think on inland waterways where the BS scheme is king it will be a factor.
I'm not talking about expensive sport cruisers, more about the small cruisers you would be likely to see on canals and rivers. Freemans that sort of thing.
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Post by paulj on Jan 22, 2019 15:56:54 GMT
Cos you get could get sparks from many places-distributors,coils,leads etc and petrol fumes love sparks! 😀  OK - but distributors and coils are to be found only in museums these days of fuel injection. Absolutely right- but the petrol boat engines I (rarely) come across tend to be little river cruisers with bloody ancient museum pieces engines in..😀
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Post by thebfg on Jan 22, 2019 16:10:04 GMT
One session filling it with petrol will make oil changes academic 🔥🔥🔥🙈 Why can't you fill a petrol engine's tank with petrol whilst the engine's running? What does it matter? It's not like you're spraying petrol all over a hot engine. What about the old bollocks about not using a mobile phone whilst at a petrol station 'in case the radio waves caused an explosion' or some old bollocks like that? What a load of old bollocks. I'll pop out and answer this. I have no idea why you can't use a phone or leave or engine running. however. the government have said you can't and a petrol station could lose their petroleum licence if they allow you to do so.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 16:17:18 GMT
One session filling it with petrol will make oil changes academic 🔥🔥🔥🙈 Why can't you fill a petrol engine's tank with petrol whilst the engine's running? What does it matter? It's not like you're spraying petrol all over a hot engine. What about the old bollocks about not using a mobile phone whilst at a petrol station 'in case the radio waves caused an explosion' or some old bollocks like that? What a load of old bollocks. Foxy, I'm afraid I've got to join in with the crowd who call you our for spouting uninformed bollocks Anyone reading this who is new to boating ignore Foxy at all costs. Many many boat fires have been caused by careless refueling - a Freeman went up at Burton Waters causing this little conflagration. www.ybw.com/news-from-yachting-boating-world/two-boats-destroyed-by-fire-at-burton-waters-marina-50018No end have gone up in smoke on the Broads which mouse and phil70 will attest to. They don't even need to be running, hot manifolds on engines just shut down or failure to use a bilge blower can be enough. Petrol boats are not the problem though - it's the morons using them that are the issue 🤬🔥🔨🔨 A fuel injected petrol engine is a rare beast indeed, they still have hot manifolds like any other engine though....
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 16:20:19 GMT
I bet he wouldnt be so keen to change the oil in the gearcase every other day either I sold my boat with the Evinrude 20hp two years ago, and yes, I frequently changed the gear oil on a warm day when it was nice and runny. The man who bought it (for 2,000 Euros) got a good boat, well looked after. It's dead easy to change the gearcase oil in an outboard, two plugs and it all pours out, and then you screw the pipe in and pump new hypoid oil in again. Now try that on a cruiser in the water - I bet you can't
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 16:21:52 GMT
Cos you get could get sparks from many places-distributors,coils,leads etc and petrol fumes love sparks! 😀  OK - but distributors and coils are to be found only in museums these days of fuel injection. Nope, they are found on the thousands of Volvo, Watermota and Vedette engines to name but a few still giving sterling service.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jan 22, 2019 16:27:20 GMT
Are passengers allowed to smoke at petrol stations:
a/ with the windows down? b/ with the windows up?
Can I vape while I fill up my motorbike?
If there's a strong wind blowing petrol fumes from the forecourt on to the pavement nearby:
a/ are pedestrians allowed to use phones? b/ are pedestrians allowed to smoke? c/ are pedestrians allowed to vape?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Jan 22, 2019 16:31:56 GMT
Come to think of it, if you're not allowed to use a phone because of the risk of sparks igniting petrol, it's amazing that you're allowed to start your car. That must be much more risky, surely.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 16:38:21 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Jan 22, 2019 16:52:15 GMT
Are passengers allowed to smoke at petrol stations: a/ with the windows down? b/ with the windows up? Can I vape while I fill up my motorbike? If there's a strong wind blowing petrol fumes from the forecourt on to the pavement nearby: a/ are pedestrians allowed to use phones? b/ are pedestrians allowed to smoke? c/ are pedestrians allowed to vape? no one should be smoking in a hazzardous zone full stop. we have a bus stop 3 metres from a pump. I have no powers what so ever to demand someone of the premises to do anything. , however they are not deemed a hazardous zone. it is highly unlikely in the open air especially if the wind has dispersed them, that fumes would be an issue unless directly next to the source. however government legislation has to be listened to and rules must be adhered to however illogical they may seem. and no I wouldent allow you to vape whilst filling up, however if we don't see it were not going to stop it.
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Post by quaysider on Jan 22, 2019 17:28:18 GMT
drastically reduce the number of hours we've put on just charging for the fridge freezer etc. Throw the darned fridge in the canal, Ellis. I just don't understand how you're getting through so much electricity. It's Winter - fridge stuff in the cratch, it really is that simple. And get rid of your telly, another electricity-waster. Just buy books from charity shops. It's 2019.... we have laptops, mobile phones, Netflix, central heating to run and a freezer full of food - "doing without" is not an option for Andy and I have no intention of clampeting around outside with stuff that lives in the fridge to save a few amps... just cause we live on a boat doesn't mean we WANT to get away from the world... it would just be easier to be plugged through the darkest days when the solar panels are doing feck all. Come March things will be back to normal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 17:49:55 GMT
Clampeting?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 17:57:11 GMT
I missed the bit on the licence application that said I had to ask foxy's permission for anything In a former life I saw a guy pour petrol over himself and threaten to light a cig lighter held in his hand, if anyone approached. He demanded his ex girlfriend be brought to him. Of course, as soon as she appeared he sparked the lighter. It didn't light ... but he did. You would not believe the explosion and scorch marks on the tarmac for 20 yards around him. We got wet blankets on him very quickly ... but petrol fumes are wicked. Rog
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