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Post by Trina on Feb 2, 2019 7:41:03 GMT
I just can't see EU member states refusing to sell us stuff, that would be cutting their nose off. We may have to go back to eating what's in season but we will manage as we did before. I can remember looking forward to seeing in season stuff in the shops and I reckon we appreciated it more not like at the moment when stuff is in the shops all year Phil Wheh I was a kiddiwink,our first salad of the year was eaten on Good Friday(with tinned red salmon😄)-we really looked forward to it !
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Post by Mr Stabby on Feb 2, 2019 7:41:17 GMT
France don't seem to think there will be any delays on the Dover-Calais route.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 8:54:37 GMT
Why would a no deal lead to a shortage though, delays at the docks, air it in then. There's never a 'delay at the docks' when illegals come along in their dinghies, is there? Border Farce Taxis at your service.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 8:56:05 GMT
We may have to go back to eating what's in season Incoming illegals. Fresh meat all year round.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 8:57:39 GMT
Is there a shortage of medicines in Switzerland or Norway? It's a shame there isn't a medicine which cures gullibility, I'm sure you would benefit enormously from such a thing. Norway and Switzerland aren't being mismanaged by a rabble of incompetent tories ruled by Arlene Phillips. Can we send Corbyn and the Flabbapotamus to Switzerland by drone?
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 9:32:50 GMT
" James O'Brien Gets Schooled On Brexit By A Farmer From Devon. This is the moment a farmer from Devon taught James O'Brien what would happen if Britain leaves the EU without a deal. The conversation came as James discussed an article in today's newspapers which said that Britain was stockpiling tinned food to show the EU it was serious about a no-deal Brexit. Richard revealed he is stockpiling diesel, growing extra root vegetables and increasing the amount of lamb and beef he's keeping to prepare for a hard Brexit. And Richard revealed that a huge number of farming businesses going bankrupt. He told James: "I can see quite clearly where this is going to lead. "Hard Brexit not only results in queues of lorries as far as the eye can see, but it also results in 80% of farm businesses becoming no longer viable. "They lose their EU subsidies. And if you look at Scotland and Wales, more than 50% of small farm income comes from subsidies. They also lose their home market because the very first deal they do will be with the USA with much cheaper, much lower grade, lower animal welfare provision. They also lose their exports markets in Europe for lamb and beef. "Not only will we be stockpiling food, but we will be watching farmers go out of business at a huge range of knots. "Patrick Minford [the Vote Leave economist] said in evidence to the committee that "just like coal and steel", manufacturing and farming would no longer make sense and would cease to operate." "
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 9:46:40 GMT
The above is:
"Pure bullshit in it’s most refined form!
No-one was remotely concerned about their being food shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it.
No-one was remotely concerned about their being medical shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it.
No-one was remotely concerned about martial law – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it.
So farmer boy here is crying about his subsidies going should we leave with a WTO “Hard Brexit” (nowt hard about it YOU TWAT) no deal.
Well (YOU TWAT) have you not thought about how much money we’ll have in order to subsidise our OWN farmers with a “Fuck you EU! And you’re not having that £41 billion divorce settlement either! HAH!” deal? And the £11+bn a year thereafter?
And if we do that, who’s going to pick-up that £41bn out of the EU coffers tab? Germany has a lame duck leader, and France’s leader is currently carrying about as much water as a broken colander! If the EU tried to tap those twats up (again) for that shortfall then it will be civil war.
So where is that money going to come from? Holland? Sweden? Not likely, and so all of the handouts the EU has been giving to the deficit countries dry up as well, and then it really is Goodnight Vienna for the 4th Reich!
And then (YOU QUISLING FARMER HAND-OUTSTRETCHED TWAT) who pays YOUR EU subsidy then?
Why, no one! And then will you be crying that we should have come out on WTO so that you could have had some of that £41bn gravy and subsequent £11+bn gravy each year thereafter?
You come across as though you know it all, when the reality is that no one knows for sure but – if you look at the economic trend of the EU for the last 15yrs – it’s spiraling downwards, and nearly failed after 2008 were it not for the Franco/German bail-out (and bankrupting Greece in the process and almost bankrupting Ireland, Portugal and Spain too)!
The French and German peoples have no appetite for bailing the rest of Europe out yet again.
It is a pity that this crying farmer twat didn’t have someone on the leave side – with a few provable economic facts – to rebut this guesswork and speculation. But that would be too easy – as that lickspittle O’Brien knows – wouldn’t it.
Moreover – farmer twat boy – have you not thought about how much better your lot would be by NOT having to wade through rivers of EU red tape (in their protectionist racket) in order for you to sell your produce?
Why, you may even stand a chance of turning a profit WITHOUT subsidies!
And let’s face it, those subsidies are not for your benefit are they? No. They are for the benefit of the greedy supermarket franchises of Lord Sainsbury, Tesco, ASDA, et. al., who give you pennies but charge us consumers pounds – all in the aid of extortionate profit margins – which goes unpunished due to Twatminster lobbyist palm greasing!
If we leave then it can’t just be the farming side we deal with but also the (super) marketing side of it too and begin to hold those twats to account for their complicitness in terrorising the (weak minded) people that the shelves will be empty.
As WW2 proved, there’s lot of profit to be made from the threat of empty shelves isn’t there, you duplicitous, greedy bastard, profiteering TWATS!"
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 10:06:34 GMT
"Just like these farmer twats who cry that they can’t get their produce off the trees and out of the ground without two bob immigrant labour. So before the Eurotrash arrived did you leave it rotting in the fields? Pay a decent wage instead of sticking it in your fat wallets you twats."
"EU subsidies are paid for using UK taxpayers money. The EU has no money, it comes from the 6 NET contributors of the 28 members.
The UK is the second highest contributor. It’s our own money! The EU gives us nothing. They keep selling themselves as this benevolent organisation, the truth is they skim a few billion off the top and then give us our own money back with their strings attached.
Do you remember the stock piles of tinned steak the EU had, along with butter, cheese and other items stored away to keep the prices artificially high?
Thieving on an industrial scale."
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2019 10:38:19 GMT
" James O'Brien Gets Schooled On Brexit By A Farmer From Devon. This is the moment a farmer from Devon taught James O'Brien what would happen if Britain leaves the EU without a deal. The conversation came as James discussed an article in today's newspapers which said that Britain was stockpiling tinned food to show the EU it was serious about a no-deal Brexit. Richard revealed he is stockpiling diesel, growing extra root vegetables and increasing the amount of lamb and beef he's keeping to prepare for a hard Brexit. And Richard revealed that a huge number of farming businesses going bankrupt. He told James: "I can see quite clearly where this is going to lead. "Hard Brexit not only results in queues of lorries as far as the eye can see, but it also results in 80% of farm businesses becoming no longer viable. "They lose their EU subsidies. And if you look at Scotland and Wales, more than 50% of small farm income comes from subsidies. They also lose their home market because the very first deal they do will be with the USA with much cheaper, much lower grade, lower animal welfare provision. They also lose their exports markets in Europe for lamb and beef. "Not only will we be stockpiling food, but we will be watching farmers go out of business at a huge range of knots. "Patrick Minford [the Vote Leave economist] said in evidence to the committee that "just like coal and steel", manufacturing and farming would no longer make sense and would cease to operate." " Are you OK Ross? You've copied and pasted proper facts for once. Keep it up.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 10:40:13 GMT
" James O'Brien Gets Schooled On Brexit By A Farmer From Devon. This is the moment a farmer from Devon taught James O'Brien what would happen if Britain leaves the EU without a deal. The conversation came as James discussed an article in today's newspapers which said that Britain was stockpiling tinned food to show the EU it was serious about a no-deal Brexit. Richard revealed he is stockpiling diesel, growing extra root vegetables and increasing the amount of lamb and beef he's keeping to prepare for a hard Brexit. And Richard revealed that a huge number of farming businesses going bankrupt. He told James: "I can see quite clearly where this is going to lead. "Hard Brexit not only results in queues of lorries as far as the eye can see, but it also results in 80% of farm businesses becoming no longer viable. "They lose their EU subsidies. And if you look at Scotland and Wales, more than 50% of small farm income comes from subsidies. They also lose their home market because the very first deal they do will be with the USA with much cheaper, much lower grade, lower animal welfare provision. They also lose their exports markets in Europe for lamb and beef. "Not only will we be stockpiling food, but we will be watching farmers go out of business at a huge range of knots. "Patrick Minford [the Vote Leave economist] said in evidence to the committee that "just like coal and steel", manufacturing and farming would no longer make sense and would cease to operate." " Are you OK Ross? You've copied and pasted proper facts for once. Keep it up. That's part 1. Part 2 is below. Keep reading.
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Post by Jim on Feb 2, 2019 10:43:23 GMT
The above is: "Pure bullshit in it’s most refined form! No-one was remotely concerned about their being food shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. No-one was remotely concerned about their being medical shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. No-one was remotely concerned about martial law – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. So farmer boy here is crying about his subsidies going should we leave with a WTO “Hard Brexit” (nowt hard about it YOU TWAT) no deal. Well (YOU TWAT) have you not thought about how much money we’ll have in order to subsidise our OWN farmers with a “Fuck you EU! And you’re not having that £41 billion divorce settlement either! HAH!” deal? And the £11+bn a year thereafter? And if we do that, who’s going to pick-up that £41bn out of the EU coffers tab? Germany has a lame duck leader, and France’s leader is currently carrying about as much water as a broken colander! If the EU tried to tap those twats up (again) for that shortfall then it will be civil war. So where is that money going to come from? Holland? Sweden? Not likely, and so all of the handouts the EU has been giving to the deficit countries dry up as well, and then it really is Goodnight Vienna for the 4th Reich! And then (YOU QUISLING FARMER HAND-OUTSTRETCHED TWAT) who pays YOUR EU subsidy then? Why, no one! And then will you be crying that we should have come out on WTO so that you could have had some of that £41bn gravy and subsequent £11+bn gravy each year thereafter? You come across as though you know it all, when the reality is that no one knows for sure but – if you look at the economic trend of the EU for the last 15yrs – it’s spiraling downwards, and nearly failed after 2008 were it not for the Franco/German bail-out (and bankrupting Greece in the process and almost bankrupting Ireland, Portugal and Spain too)! The French and German peoples have no appetite for bailing the rest of Europe out yet again. It is a pity that this crying farmer twat didn’t have someone on the leave side – with a few provable economic facts – to rebut this guesswork and speculation. But that would be too easy – as that lickspittle O’Brien knows – wouldn’t it. Moreover – farmer twat boy – have you not thought about how much better your lot would be by NOT having to wade through rivers of EU red tape (in their protectionist racket) in order for you to sell your produce? Why, you may even stand a chance of turning a profit WITHOUT subsidies! And let’s face it, those subsidies are not for your benefit are they? No. They are for the benefit of the greedy supermarket franchises of Lord Sainsbury, Tesco, ASDA, et. al., who give you pennies but charge us consumers pounds – all in the aid of extortionate profit margins – which goes unpunished due to Twatminster lobbyist palm greasing! If we leave then it can’t just be the farming side we deal with but also the (super) marketing side of it too and begin to hold those twats to account for their complicitness in terrorising the (weak minded) people that the shelves will be empty. As WW2 proved, there’s lot of profit to be made from the threat of empty shelves isn’t there, you duplicitous, greedy bastard, profiteering TWATS!" A bit of editing required, just substitute 'No one was concerned with" for "quitlings don't care..." "quitlings haven't considered the consequences..." Just remind me again where you are posting from, whose hospitality you are abusing? Are you coming back to live full time in poverty after a no deal? I'll bet not.
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Post by naughtyfox on Feb 2, 2019 11:21:35 GMT
Why 'poverty'? Keeping all those billions to itself, the UK should be much. much wealthier. Not sure about our future - moving to the UK is on the cards. Finland is boring - and I have always said this. Boring but tolerable (just about). Plusses and minuses between Finland and the UK are roughly the same - the UK tips in my favour with public footpaths everywhere, different types of scenery, people being friendlier, nice pubs, etc. 28 years here makes me 'more Finnish' than anyone who's been here less than 28 years, so I have earned my right to moan at Finns and Finland. Finns are not as honest as they make themselves out to be. Just look up 'Finnair Customer Service' on Google to see what a lying bunch of shits they are. I am not abusing anyone's hospitality, in fact, if anything it's the other way around: I work, my taxes go towards scrounging Romanian gypsies, Somalis who don't work, Finnish gypsies who don't work, and 35,000 Islamic 'refugees' (from... err... Sweden!) who are just lounging around. There's not even one doctor in our village, for all the thousands who live here paying taxes. You still have not listed the advantages of the UK staying in the EU. I am cynical and believe 'Remainers' only want to stay in the EU because they will be making money out of it somehow. The UK managed perfectly well before joining the 'EU', and could do so again. The key, I believe, is getting Brits motivated in their own country and getting out of bed and doing something useful. As the above farmer says, it's all about "benefits/subsidies". Money to buy the latest Range Rover for the Young Farmers' Ball.
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Post by peterboat on Feb 2, 2019 11:47:50 GMT
The above is: "Pure bullshit in it’s most refined form! No-one was remotely concerned about their being food shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. No-one was remotely concerned about their being medical shortages – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. No-one was remotely concerned about martial law – and they were right not to be – until Remoaners with a platform started to cry about it. So farmer boy here is crying about his subsidies going should we leave with a WTO “Hard Brexit” (nowt hard about it YOU TWAT) no deal. Well (YOU TWAT) have you not thought about how much money we’ll have in order to subsidise our OWN farmers with a “Fuck you EU! And you’re not having that £41 billion divorce settlement either! HAH!” deal? And the £11+bn a year thereafter? And if we do that, who’s going to pick-up that £41bn out of the EU coffers tab? Germany has a lame duck leader, and France’s leader is currently carrying about as much water as a broken colander! If the EU tried to tap those twats up (again) for that shortfall then it will be civil war. So where is that money going to come from? Holland? Sweden? Not likely, and so all of the handouts the EU has been giving to the deficit countries dry up as well, and then it really is Goodnight Vienna for the 4th Reich! And then (YOU QUISLING FARMER HAND-OUTSTRETCHED TWAT) who pays YOUR EU subsidy then? Why, no one! And then will you be crying that we should have come out on WTO so that you could have had some of that £41bn gravy and subsequent £11+bn gravy each year thereafter? You come across as though you know it all, when the reality is that no one knows for sure but – if you look at the economic trend of the EU for the last 15yrs – it’s spiraling downwards, and nearly failed after 2008 were it not for the Franco/German bail-out (and bankrupting Greece in the process and almost bankrupting Ireland, Portugal and Spain too)! The French and German peoples have no appetite for bailing the rest of Europe out yet again. It is a pity that this crying farmer twat didn’t have someone on the leave side – with a few provable economic facts – to rebut this guesswork and speculation. But that would be too easy – as that lickspittle O’Brien knows – wouldn’t it. Moreover – farmer twat boy – have you not thought about how much better your lot would be by NOT having to wade through rivers of EU red tape (in their protectionist racket) in order for you to sell your produce? Why, you may even stand a chance of turning a profit WITHOUT subsidies! And let’s face it, those subsidies are not for your benefit are they? No. They are for the benefit of the greedy supermarket franchises of Lord Sainsbury, Tesco, ASDA, et. al., who give you pennies but charge us consumers pounds – all in the aid of extortionate profit margins – which goes unpunished due to Twatminster lobbyist palm greasing! If we leave then it can’t just be the farming side we deal with but also the (super) marketing side of it too and begin to hold those twats to account for their complicitness in terrorising the (weak minded) people that the shelves will be empty. As WW2 proved, there’s lot of profit to be made from the threat of empty shelves isn’t there, you duplicitous, greedy bastard, profiteering TWATS!" Wallers local farmers that I have known for years voted leave, this year they planted different crops, ones that we need rather than ones that pay the best subsidy. The farm next door grows Strawberries 9 months of the year it has automated picking which means certain migrants are no longer needed for picking. In a couple of years when it has all settled down we will all wonder what the fuss was about, as an afterthought we produce 20% more medicine than we import so maybe we will just start to produce the missing medicines?
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Post by JohnV on Feb 2, 2019 11:55:46 GMT
Jim, you ignore the fact that the UK pays in more than it gets out. If we are not paying the EU there is no reason why subsidies can't be put in place for industries like food production that are considered to be a strategic necessity ...... and not have to pay the EU fat cats for the privilege of doling out our own money back to us
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Post by peterboat on Feb 2, 2019 11:57:52 GMT
Jim, you ignore the fact that the UK pays in more than it gets out. If we are not paying the EU there is no reason why subsidies can't be put in place for industries like food production that are considered to be a strategic necessity ...... and not have to pay the EU fat cats for the privilege of doling out our own money back to us Clearly the shit will hit the fan in those EU countries that need that money from us, bring on that WTO exit and no dosh
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