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Post by ched on Feb 5, 2019 7:05:14 GMT
Sorry for another slightly negative post and it's probably been discussed before, but here goes:
So CRT are repairing a lock up from our mooring - big job they say, should be completed by March.
Anyway, took a walk up to inspect the works and sure enough there's all the gear you would expect for a job costing 200k - aluminium trackway, large generators and pumps, cctv, everything fenced-off etc
Attached to the fencing are very large, professionally designed signs telling you what fantastic work they are doing at this specific lock and other information about CRT (i.e how to donate!) and of course the new logo emblazoned everywhere for people to see.
We have still seen a few boats go past though seemingly oblivious and are either moored below the lock repairs or have reversed all the way back (probably about a mile).
I know stoppages are on the website and you could be accused of being a bit of a fool to not check your route beforehand but can see how planning ahead doesn't always 'chime' with spirit of boating
Anyway it did make me think with a job costing 200k, how much would it 'eat' into the budget to put a small sign up at the previous lock informing boaters of the stoppage (there's ample room to turn round here).
When discussing this revolutionary idea with my partner they told me I seem to be under some sort of misconception that CRT are a navigation authority!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 8:00:41 GMT
I have pondered on this, it seems the modern way, no doubt, if challenged they will tell you that they use facebook to "notify" customers, as my former estate agent did!
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Post by TonyDunkley on Feb 5, 2019 8:12:12 GMT
When discussing this revolutionary idea with my partner they told me I seem to be under some sort of misconception that CRT are a navigation authority! Your partner's doubts are well founded, . . by no stretch of anyone's imagination can C&RT be rightfully described as a navigation authority. They are a joke, but alas, a very unfunny one! I'm not even sure that this so-called charitable trust is run and staffed by human beings. All the indications point to it being an organization created, operated and staffed by alien life-forms from another galaxy or universe that have transmuted into something resembling human form. Their precise intentions are not yet 100% clear, but I think it's safe to assume that they're some sort of inter-galactic fifth column sent to cause disruption and confusion ahead of the main invasion force.
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Post by patty on Feb 5, 2019 8:32:19 GMT
If CRT are 'working for all' one would assume a little customer service notifying boaters of lock closure ahead would fall under that remit.....
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Post by ched on Feb 5, 2019 8:33:37 GMT
Thanks Tony - your comments have given me a really good chuckle this morning and made me feel slightly less annoyed π
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Post by JohnV on Feb 5, 2019 8:40:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 8:48:32 GMT
Whilst not disagreeing with any of the above comments, to provide balance, C&RT do provide advance notice of stoppages free of charge, to anyone who wishes to sign up for them.
They can be received by e mail or text to your phone.
It is also possible to call at a C&RT office (if you can still find one) where hard copies can be printed off on request.
I have to say that anyone who chooses to boat in winter and pays no heed to the published stoppage lists deserves to be stuck at a lock.
I'm all for pointing out the deficiencies of C&RT, and I have found very many, but we have to accept our own deficiencies in the same manner don't you think?
Rog
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Post by Telemachus on Feb 5, 2019 8:59:14 GMT
Agree with Rog. The only thing I would say is that CRT money would be better spent on maintenance than on fatuous signs at places where work is taking place (in between long teabreaks and even longer periods staring at some stonework whilst scratching heads and other unmentionables). I wonder how much they have spent on these huge signs (and it was the same at Marple when we visited), how much extra revenue they create (probably zero) and who within CRT has shares in or owns, or whose "friend" owns, a signwriting company.
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Post by ched on Feb 5, 2019 9:04:52 GMT
Hi Rog,
Can't argue with the fact the information is out there and blame should largely apportioned to the boater (especially in winter as you say).
But c'mon! - a simple sign seems somewhat of a fundamental basic for a navigation authority (don't remember driving down any closed roads without prior warning).
I would also interpret that a simple sign in this case might even showed caring.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 9:06:52 GMT
Whilst not disagreeing with any of the above comments, to provide balance, C&RT do provide advance notice of stoppages free of charge, to anyone who wishes to sign up for them. They can be received by e mail or text to your phone. It is also possible to call at a C&RT office (if you can still find one) where hard copies can be printed off on request. I have to say that anyone who chooses to boat in winter and pays no heed to the published stoppage lists deserves to be stuck at a lock. I'm all for pointing out the deficiencies of C&RT, and I have found very many, but we have to accept our own deficiencies in the same manner don't you think? Rog A balanced view, is that wot I signed up to?
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Post by ched on Feb 5, 2019 9:10:44 GMT
Just realised how stupid I'm being, after all it is just a simple sign.
The logical thing to do is print one my self and stick to the lock - so that's what I will do!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 9:23:53 GMT
I'm not sure who the sign is for.
If a winter boater has disregarded all the information thus far, what makes you think a simple sign will change things?
Or have I got the wrong end of the stick and the sign is for towpath walkers because there is no way through?
Rog
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 9:37:31 GMT
Just realised how stupid I'm being, after all it is just a simple sign. The logical thing to do is print one my self and stick to the lock - so that's what I will do! There are boaters out there who donβt have internet access or smart smart phones to pick up emails and CRT notices. I suspect there are very few without a phone which does texts though. Having said that. I do think putting a notice up at each of the winding holes nearest either side of the stoppage, would be a sensible idea. Donβt forget to take your notice down once the stoppage has been completed. You wouldnβt want boaters turning back thinking there is still s problem.
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Post by ched on Feb 5, 2019 9:37:46 GMT
The sign is for the boater who is not technology-minded, the boater who decided last minute to try this stretch on a whim, or as you have allured to, just the thick twunt boater.
They may indeed not see my sign or they might see it and be thankful. Regardless, ched has chosen this mission now and there will be no turning back(!)
Wish me well and Godspeed.....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 9:44:08 GMT
When discussing this revolutionary idea with my partner they told me I seem to be under some sort of misconception that CRT are a navigation authority! Your partner's doubts are well founded, . . by no stretch of anyone's imagination can C&RT be rightfully described as a navigation authority. They are a joke, but alas, a very unfunny one! I'm not even sure that this so-called charitable trust is run and staffed by human beings. All the indications point to it being an organization created, operated and staffed by alien life-forms from another galaxy or universe that have transmuted into something resembling human form. Their precise intentions are not yet 100% clear, but I think it's safe to assume that they're some sort of inter-galactic fifth column sent to cause disruption and confusion ahead of the main invasion force. Have you been talking to David Icke again Tony?
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