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Mar 7, 2019 18:01:18 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Mar 7, 2019 18:01:18 GMT
Our Bukh filters are Made in Morocco. Are they any good? Well, I suppose you'd have to pop into that factory in Morocco to see the working conditions and cleanliness to judge for yourself. We've had a Mahle filter on, it's two times the size of the Bukh filter, and apparently Made in Austria (?) - anyway, Mahle have a good reputation. We use Morris oil 10-40 for engine, straight 30 for gearbox. Are Morris oils any good? Who can say! Research is always needed into this complicated subject. Filters Made in India just have bits of cardboard inside them - avoid at all costs. oil (particularly automotive oil) is generally a triumph of advertising over substance anyway. I always liked the music and this ad:
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Mar 7, 2019 18:07:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 18:07:26 GMT
I use AD 20/50 mineral oil, it's about Β£11 for 4.5 litres. I don't know how it would compare to Golden Film or similar priced oil but the fact that it's cheap means I change the oil far more often than I would if I was paying Β£25+ for it. Your BMC hasn't sent it's rings up the exhaust or its shells to the bottom of the sump so you can't be far wrong π Oil is cheap - cheaper and easier to change than engine guts!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 18:13:09 GMT
I use AD 20/50 mineral oil, it's about Β£11 for 4.5 litres. I don't know how it would compare to Golden Film or similar priced oil but the fact that it's cheap means I change the oil far more often than I would if I was paying Β£25+ for it. Twice as often?
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Mar 7, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 7, 2019 18:21:02 GMT
I use AD 20/50 mineral oil, it's about Β£11 for 4.5 litres. I don't know how it would compare to Golden Film or similar priced oil but the fact that it's cheap means I change the oil far more often than I would if I was paying Β£25+ for it. Twice as often? Difficult to say, but I just checked my maintenance book and I've changed the engine oil and filter seven times in the last 12 months, during which time I've done 1080 engine hours.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 7, 2019 18:59:13 GMT
I've changed the engine oil and filter seven times in the last 12 months Pffftttt......! Amateur!!
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Mar 7, 2019 22:04:21 GMT
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Post by brummieboy on Mar 7, 2019 22:04:21 GMT
For the amount of oil you use, saving a couple of quid seems paltry. I use Morriss 10/40 semi synthetic, in a Perkins 4108, and pay about Β£17 per 5lts. It gets changed every couple of months cruising, about 300-400 hours. The level drops from full to about 1/2 way to low in that time, and the engine does not smoke or lose oil pressure. When I've used the cheaper oils, I find I use an extra 3-4 litres, the oil pressure drops by 10 psi, and this was when the lump was considerably newer than it is now. I used to use the specified Crosland filters, but now use the Mann equivalents, as the Farm Shop I purchase from now only stocks them. If its good enough for farmers, its good enough for me.
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Mar 9, 2019 9:04:47 GMT
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Post by jubjub on Mar 9, 2019 9:04:47 GMT
I found a website call in-line-filters You put in the make/part number and they give you an equivalent e.g. for a Nanni which would cost me Β£20 they offer a Donaldson Lube for Β£ 2.75. Is this buy cheap buy twice or as anyone an opinion of the company or the filters? Thanks
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Mar 9, 2019 9:31:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 9:31:43 GMT
For the amount of oil you use, saving a couple of quid seems paltry. I use Morriss 10/40 semi synthetic, in a Perkins 4108, and pay about Β£17 per 5lts. It gets changed every couple of months cruising, about 300-400 hours. The level drops from full to about 1/2 way to low in that time, and the engine does not smoke or lose oil pressure. When I've used the cheaper oils, I find I use an extra 3-4 litres, the oil pressure drops by 10 psi, and this was when the lump was considerably newer than it is now. I used to use the specified Crosland filters, but now use the Mann equivalents, as the Farm Shop I purchase from now only stocks them. If its good enough for farmers, its good enough for me. I look after a 4108, that goes well on Exol 20/50 that doesn't burn or leak a drop! It was a bit hazy on the normal Planet 15/40 mixed fleet oil I tip in most things - used that as a flushing oil and tipped the Exol in. I had never had that happen before, a bit odd with no explanation as to why but there we are. You are right to avoid new Crossland filters, they have nothing to do with the once good quality filters that were made in Nottingham, Eurocarparts use the brand to shift non OE spec filters made in India. Mann are very good, they make filters for the VW group.
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Mar 9, 2019 9:39:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 9:39:20 GMT
I found a website call in-line-filters You put in the make/part number and they give you an equivalent e.g. for a Nanni which would cost me Β£20 they offer a Donaldson Lube for Β£ 2.75. Is this buy cheap buy twice or as anyone an opinion of the company or the filters? Thanks The Nanni one is likely a Mann filter painted up for Nanni! As for the Donaldson - it's not a common brand in the UK but the yanks seem to like them - stick a link up to the one you found, you need to double check the bypass pressure but after that there should be no issue using one.
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Mar 9, 2019 10:15:09 GMT
Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2019 10:15:09 GMT
I look after a 4108, that goes well on Exol 20/50 that doesn't burn or leak a drop! Chuffing gert lump looking at it. Loads of added on bits that get in the way of the bits that you really want to get at! It had a hard life previous to me and Gaz. The first oil change it had from me, the oil had the look and consistency of treacle (the black molasses type, not the golden variety). Now it is getting regular attention with good oil and filters it is running nice and smoothly. Air filtration mods have really quietened it down. A go at the tappets may pay dividends too.
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Mar 9, 2019 10:49:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 10:49:57 GMT
I look after a 4108, that goes well on Exol 20/50 that doesn't burn or leak a drop! Chuffing gert lump looking at it. Loads of added on bits that get in the way of the bits that you really want to get at! It had a hard life previous to me and Gaz. The first oil change it had from me, the oil had the look and consistency of treacle (the black molasses type, not the golden variety). Now it is getting regular attention with good oil and filters it is running nice and smoothly. Air filtration mods have really quietened it down. A go at the tappets may pay dividends too. Neglected and unloved certainly - the poor old thing couldn't rev hard enough to have had a hard life! That's all sorted now though. A testament to just how strong and robust old Frank's engine is. I remember the struggle I had to get the bloody oil filter off that first time I put a spanner to it π π¨π¨π¨π€¬ All in good time with the valve clearances - they don't tend to tighten up on the Perky and as everyone knows a slappy tappet is a happy tappet π
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Mar 9, 2019 11:09:55 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Mar 9, 2019 11:09:55 GMT
I found a website call in-line-filters You put in the make/part number and they give you an equivalent e.g. for a Nanni which would cost me Β£20 they offer a Donaldson Lube for Β£ 2.75. Is this buy cheap buy twice or as anyone an opinion of the company or the filters? Thanks The Bukh people told me there are no Bukh filters on any cross-charts, because other companies do not know Bukh's specifications. However, your in-line-filters site says they have an equivalent for the Bukh DV10 engine oil filter. It is this: Comments for Baldwin filters: " im not keen on balwin filters at all tbh, bloke who i buy all our filters from always used to stock crossland, and nothing else. Over the last year of so he has gradually phased them out and changed over to balwin, the price has remained the same however. Not sure what it is about the balwin stuff, but its just got a "cheap" look and feel to it. Put a pair on a tractor which has never had a diesel problem in its life, never blocked a filter up or starved itself. Same diesel as we have always used, with the baldwin filters after 4 months they were blocked solid and it stopped, all the other tractors were running fine so it wasnt a dirty fuel issue. I then weighed a new baldwin filter vs a CAV branded one i bought off ebay. The balwin one was 25% heavier, and the density of the paper material was a lot thicker than the CAV. Put the CAV filters on the said tractor and it hasnt missed a beat since! That put me off balwins big time, plus the fact that their fuel filters have the writing printed on upside down, which just makes them look completely wrong on the tractor " "I stay away from baldwins.. " "I do see Fleetguard and Baldwins have 'made in Mexico' on several models now. Sign of the times." "We have run Baldwins for probably 30 years now and to the best of my knowledge have NEVER had a failure of any kind that was even remotely related to the filter.We started using Baldwins on the recommendation of our milk hauler who used them in his fleet.He is a former Allis dealer (long time ago) and he does all our mechanic work now. Probably one of the best mechanics I have ever known so I do respect his opinion."
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Mar 9, 2019 11:11:04 GMT
Post by mouse on Mar 9, 2019 11:11:04 GMT
Neglected and unloved certainly - the poor old thing couldn't rev hard enough to have had a hard life! That's all sorted now though. A testament to just how strong and robust old Frank's engine is. I remember the struggle I had to get the bloody oil filter off that first time I put a spanner to it π π¨π¨π¨π€¬ All in good time with the valve clearances - they don't tend to tighten up on the Perky and as everyone knows a slappy tappet is a happy tappet π HA Viva engines with their pressed steel (chocolate) rockers never tightened up either!!!
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Mar 9, 2019 11:53:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2019 11:53:13 GMT
I found a website call in-line-filters You put in the make/part number and they give you an equivalent e.g. for a Nanni which would cost me Β£20 they offer a Donaldson Lube for Β£ 2.75. Is this buy cheap buy twice or as anyone an opinion of the company or the filters? Thanks The Bukh people told me there are no Bukh filters on any cross-charts, because other companies do not know Bukh's specifications. However, your in-line-filters site says they have an equivalent for the Bukh DV10 engine oil filter. It is this: Β Β Β Comments for Baldwin filters: Β " im not keen on balwin filters at all tbh, bloke who i buy all our filters from always used to stock crossland, and nothing else. Over the last year of so he has gradually phased them out and changed over to balwin, the price has remained the same however. Not sure what it is about the balwin stuff, but its just got a "cheap" look and feel to it. Put a pair on a tractor which has never had a diesel problem in its life, never blocked a filter up or starved itself. Same diesel as we have always used, with the baldwin filters after 4 months they were blocked solid and it stopped, all the other tractors were running fine so it wasnt a dirty fuel issue. I then weighed a new baldwin filter vs a CAV branded one i bought off ebay. The balwin one was 25% heavier, and the density of the paper material was a lot thicker than the CAV. Put the CAV filters on the said tractor and it hasnt missed a beat since! That put me off balwins big time, plus the fact that their fuel filters have the writing printed on upside down, which just makes them look completely wrong on the tractor " "I stay away from baldwins.. " "I do see Fleetguard and Baldwins have 'made in Mexico' on several models now. Sign of the times." "We have run Baldwins for probably 30 years now and to the best of my knowledge have NEVER had a failure of any kind that was even remotely related to the filter.We started using Baldwins on the recommendation of our milk hauler who used them in his fleet.He is a former Allis dealer (long time ago) and he does all our mechanic work now. Probably one of the best mechanics I have ever known so I do respect his opinion." Load of bollocks We have put thousands of hours on Baldwin filters.
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Mar 9, 2019 11:58:14 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Mar 9, 2019 11:58:14 GMT
The last comment was for balance.
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