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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 31, 2019 13:38:10 GMT
Has anyone seen this kind of thing before? I was thinking of buying one so that we can empty our water tank quickly and efficiently, without having to run it empty via the boat's own water pump - I counted we have about 850 litres when the water tank is full. This pipe-thingy/hand-pump with rotary-action handle is at our bus garage, and gets stuck into barrels of soap / screen wash / anti-freeze, etc. (not at the same time). It works well. We do have a pump that turn with the use of an electric drill for removing the water and although it does/did work well a) the drill gets hot b) water starting spurting out of the spindle/bearing the second time I tried to use it. This electric drill pump (we have the two, one for diesel, one for water) has worked fine for sucking up diesel from the bottom of our fuel tank, but then we're only sucking up 20 to 30 litres to clean the bottom of sediment. Any idea where we might be able to pick such a pipe/pump up? We want to empty the water tank this June for painting inside, and we like to empty the water tank every time we arrive at the boat anyway and fill it with fresh water.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 31, 2019 13:56:04 GMT
Hi Ross, I think that this message is probably a waste of time as I know that you like to find ways to complicate simple matters into much more difficult ones. But I'll give it a try anyway, if your watertank is still fairly full (as that's how you like it to be), you'll have to turn that handle around half a million turns to get rid off your 850 liter of water. If I would have to do a job like that, I would much rather use an electric diaphragm waterpump that will empty your tank without more physical effort than flicking a switch, and you can you your energy for something more useful. Here are some examples from Amazon, other shops are available www.amazon.co.uk/Vktech-Pressure-Diaphragm-Automatic-Switch/dp/B00EUW28JUPeter.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 31, 2019 14:21:07 GMT
What's wrong with using the boat's own pump to pump it out?
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Post by bargemast on Mar 31, 2019 14:46:04 GMT
What's wrong with using the boat's own pump to pump it out? Nothing wrong with using the boats own pump for you, me and many others, but........this is Ross Peter.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 31, 2019 15:21:11 GMT
What's wrong with using the boat's own pump to pump it out? When we first had the boat I measured/counted how long it took to empty the whole tank just by running one kitchen sink water tap, I think it was 1h38m. (33 minutes to fill up at the water tap, from empty, at Stoke Prior on the Worcester & Birmingham). The water pump gets hot and I don't like the idea of burning it out. Motor brushes and bearings don't last forever. I would like to try this plastic rotary pump method - bargemast isn't quite right, a lot of liquid comes out of the one we have at work, I reckon it'd be 10 minutes only to drain the tank. There would need to be an extra hose fitted to the u-bend, for hanging over the side of the cratch. I know you all think I'm stupid, but I do have my brilliant moments, and this could be one of them. Have already located 3 possible sellers of these things in Kokkola, and I have to go there on Tuesday anyway, and the bus garage there is close to those 3 sellers. But then we'd have to bring it over on the plane, and I bet you can buy the same thing in England. The electric drill pumps I bought are Made in Italy (ie. shit) - for the diesel they are OK as it's only 20-30 litres, but they can't take 850 litres and the electric drill (Bosch) don't like it either. Besides, turning that rotary pump will keep me fit.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 31, 2019 15:37:14 GMT
I suppose there's always the plastic bucket method for this June, as we'll have the lid open anyway.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Mar 31, 2019 15:47:25 GMT
What's wrong with using the boat's own pump to pump it out? When we first had the boat I measured/counted how long it took to empty the whole tank just by running one kitchen sink water tap, I think it was 1h38m. (33 minutes to fill up at the water tap, from empty, at Stoke Prior on the Worcester & Birmingham). The water pump gets hot and I don't like the idea of burning it out. Motor brushes and bearings don't last forever. I would like to try this plastic rotary pump method - bargemast isn't quite right, a lot of liquid comes out of the one we have at work, I reckon it'd be 10 minutes only to drain the tank. There would need to be an extra hose fitted to the u-bend, for hanging over the side of the cratch. I know you all think I'm stupid, but I do have my brilliant moments, and this could be one of them. Have already located 3 possible sellers of these things in Kokkola, and I have to go there on Tuesday anyway, and the bus garage there is close to those 3 sellers. But then we'd have to bring it over on the plane, and I bet you can buy the same thing in England. The electric drill pumps I bought are Made in Italy (ie. shit) - for the diesel they are OK as it's only 20-30 litres, but they can't take 850 litres and the electric drill (Bosch) don't like it either. Besides, turning that rotary pump will keep me fit. Well, they are easy enough to find, just search for "rotary hand pump". They are more normally used to pump oil and diesel though and I'm not sure how well they would cope with pumping a large quantity of water.
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 31, 2019 15:52:37 GMT
The one we have at work works fine for screenwash and antifreeze. I wonder if I should just nick it and say "No knowledge" if anyone asks...
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Post by kris on Mar 31, 2019 16:14:54 GMT
The one we have at work works fine for screenwash and antifreeze. I wonder if I should just nick it and say "No knowledge" if anyone asks... If you lift the boat up, you could siphon it out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 16:17:03 GMT
I assume, as you left the boat unattended in winter months, you left the tank low on water to permit expansion in case of freezing.
Don't fill it when you arrive, and in normal use over the next few days you'll slowly lower the level further.
By the time you're ready to empty the tank via the tap and water pump, it'll be the work of minutes.
Forward planning ... thought that was your forte.
Rog
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Post by JohnV on Mar 31, 2019 16:19:34 GMT
How about tipping the boat on it's side and letting it run out
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Post by naughtyfox on Mar 31, 2019 16:29:34 GMT
The one we have at work works fine for screenwash and antifreeze. I wonder if I should just nick it and say "No knowledge" if anyone asks... If you lift the boat up, you could siphon it out. Or we could just turn the boat upside down and shake it a bit to get the last drips out. I'd better remember to tape up the kitchen drawers.
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Post by kris on Mar 31, 2019 17:58:46 GMT
If you lift the boat up, you could siphon it out. Or we could just turn the boat upside down and shake it a bit to get the last drips out. I'd better remember to tape up the kitchen drawers. Yes that would work
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Post by kris on Mar 31, 2019 18:04:26 GMT
Foxy have you not got a plugin the bottom of the boat for drainage.
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Post by bargemast on Mar 31, 2019 18:12:21 GMT
The one we have at work works fine for screenwash and antifreeze. I wonder if I should just nick it and say "No knowledge" if anyone asks... I know that you're planning on leaving that company if you can get a job for a Yorkshire company, but you don't want to leave them being known as the English thief. For the price of one of these in the UK, I don't think that it's worth the hassle of bringing one over from Finland, as Amazon, and many others can be your friend www.amazon.co.uk/Diesel-Barrel-Rotary-Cranked-Transfer/dp/B00TIHJ3I6 These pumps are great for pumping a gallon or 2 of oil from a big drum, but pumping 850 liters of water will take you almost 30 mins (30 l/min) and you'll be knackered, and possibly hear bells ringing without ringing them. A nice electric pump would be the winner for me, but I know that it's not for me. Peter.
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