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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 19:15:16 GMT
Right, off to the fens, catch you lot later
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Post by JohnV on Aug 5, 2016 19:17:34 GMT
lucky bugger
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Post by PaulG2 on Aug 5, 2016 19:26:49 GMT
Exactly if you come across an eejit causing hassle on a job the quicker you let them know the easier life gets. I'd love to tell mtb what I think of him, but that's probably not going to happen. But one can live in hope. I think you can be pretty certain that he is well aware of everything that is said on this forum.
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Post by kris on Aug 5, 2016 20:00:24 GMT
I mean face to face, where it actually counts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 20:03:43 GMT
I mean face to face, where it actually counts. You wouldn't get face to face. He's a midget, and would only be staring at your balls.
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Post by kris on Aug 5, 2016 20:07:17 GMT
I mean face to face, where it actually counts. You wouldn't get face to face. He's a midget, and would only be staring at your balls. well okay then, in person.
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Post by loafer on Aug 5, 2016 21:30:05 GMT
Right, off to the fens, catch you lot later We're at Diamond 44. Where you headed Gazza?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 21:55:44 GMT
The Boat but you've got that from elsewhere!
On the move tomorrow, see what mood grumpy is in as to which way and how far we go
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Post by phil70 on Aug 5, 2016 21:56:34 GMT
No I hadn't noticed, I'm not sure if it's cos I'm busy enough in real life or I've had my head up me arse when online, one thing is for sure, anyone with an ounce of sense should put him on the one to ignore list. It's one of the failings of CWDF that you can't call him out as we all know how that would end up. A good old fashioned bit of Anglo Saxon always works with the dumb arses I have come across in a technical capacity Over the years Anyone giving information which is misleading or dangerous should be dealt with via their report process. Mind you I suspect certain people there are immune to it due to the brown nosing culture. Having said that, if anyone needs any serious information they perhaps shouldn't rely on a forum unless it is very specialised. Or better still, seek the advice from a known professional. For example, if you need some expert advice on how to use Google, ask MtB. If you ask MtB about Google he would probably advise getting an app, a sort of Midget Widget. Phil
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Post by JohnV on Aug 5, 2016 21:59:09 GMT
Anyone giving information which is misleading or dangerous should be dealt with via their report process. Mind you I suspect certain people there are immune to it due to the brown nosing culture. Having said that, if anyone needs any serious information they perhaps shouldn't rely on a forum unless it is very specialised. Or better still, seek the advice from a known professional. For example, if you need some expert advice on how to use Google, ask MtB. If you ask MtB about Google he would probably advise getting an app, a sort of Midget Widget. Phil Phil, that's the best laugh I've had for ages !!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 22:06:51 GMT
If you ask MtB about Google he would probably advise getting an app, a sort of Midget Widget. Phil Phil, that's the best laugh I've had for ages !!! Me too, I think Phil wins the internet with that post
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Post by smileypete on Aug 7, 2016 21:09:03 GMT
I see Smiley Pete doesn't even bother to comment anymore. I guess he got fed up with all the bullshit. It was heading that way anyway, but probably the final straw was that a topic I started on the moderation got deleted. In the ensuing discussion that followed on private message with LC and Dan it seemed that common sense had fallen by the wayside in their pursuit of a forum spat with Thunderboat. (can PM a copy if anyone's interested, I could attach it but there may be 'spies' around ) That aside, topics that start with 'a friend' being asked or told something, I do wonder why said friend can't sign up and ask themselves, and maybe stay around to share their experiences of boating!!! Yeah overcurrent protection is normally for downstream circuits, if the BSS means otherwise then surely it should unambiguously state so. OTOH no BSS chappie is perfect, if there's a sticking point and they're excellent otherwise, it may pay to tread diplomatically - unless you don't plan to use them again in future... Bit unusual that Keeping Up has the charger on a separate breaker, can't he stay WHY for chrissakes??? What's the point of mentioning it otherwise? <sigh>
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Post by Graham on Aug 7, 2016 23:14:45 GMT
I see Smiley Pete doesn't even bother to comment anymore. I guess he got fed up with all the bullshit. It was heading that way anyway, but probably the final straw was that a topic I started on the moderation got deleted. In the ensuing discussion that followed on private message with LC and Dan it seemed that common sense had fallen by the wayside in their pursuit of a forum spat with Thunderboat. (can PM a copy if anyone's interested, I could attach it but there may be 'spies' around ) That aside, topics that start with 'a friend' being asked or told something, I do wonder why said friend can't sign up and ask themselves, and maybe stay around to share their experiences of boating!!! Yeah overcurrent protection is normally for downstream circuits, if the BSS means otherwise then surely it should unambiguously state so. OTOH no BSS chappie is perfect, if there's a sticking point and they're excellent otherwise, it may pay to tread diplomatically - unless you don't plan to use them again in future... Bit unusual that Keeping Up has the charger on a separate breaker, can't he stay WHY for chrissakes??? What's the point of mentioning it otherwise? <sigh> I have yet to find a BSS Inspector who really know their stuff, they seem to be a group of people who do there own thing and rarely seem to know the real technical reason why X should be and Y is not correct. Example a simple one May 2012 all my fire extinguishers were failed, did not have quick access to the BSS site so did not bother went out and bought three new ones. Same guy did not even know how to do the tightness test on my gas, complaining of letby on all three of my gas cylinders. As Calor in Bristol had only supplied them the day before (I had just bought the boat no gas) I rang Calor Bristol who trundled out while the BSS Guy was still there with three new cylinders very concerned at three cylinders with letby. Short story none of the cylinders had letby just the guy did not know how to deal with an open gas locker with the sun shining into it and onto the gas pipes. The Calor Engineer did the tightness test and she passed with flying colours. Scroll forward to May 2016 my three new 2012 extinguishers passed but were short of some units of capability, I still had on the boat two of the extinguishers that were failed in May 2012 and they have now been passed as OK and made up the capability that was short. There is no quality control of the tests. As for being diplomatic there seems to be a surplus of Inspectors why use one who got it wrong again, my life could rely on him/her getting it right. Think it is time to hit the bank and sell the boat it is all getting so amateurish so going to sell Clarence and maybe by a bumpy water boat.
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Post by PaulG2 on Aug 8, 2016 1:54:18 GMT
I see Smiley Pete doesn't even bother to comment anymore. I guess he got fed up with all the bullshit. It was heading that way anyway, but probably the final straw was that a topic I started on the moderation got deleted. In the ensuing discussion that followed on private message with LC and Dan it seemed that common sense had fallen by the wayside in their pursuit of a forum spat with Thunderboat. (can PM a copy if anyone's interested, I could attach it but there may be 'spies' around ) That aside, topics that start with 'a friend' being asked or told something, I do wonder why said friend can't sign up and ask themselves, and maybe stay around to share their experiences of boating!!! Yeah overcurrent protection is normally for downstream circuits, if the BSS means otherwise then surely it should unambiguously state so. OTOH no BSS chappie is perfect, if there's a sticking point and they're excellent otherwise, it may pay to tread diplomatically - unless you don't plan to use them again in future... Bit unusual that Keeping Up has the charger on a separate breaker, can't he stay WHY for chrissakes??? What's the point of mentioning it otherwise? <sigh> Most panels have way more breaker amps wired into them than they are rated for, with the idea being that you simply can't use everything all at the same time. There is then a main circuit breaker that switches of the entire panel if someone tries to draw too much current all at once without overloading the individual circuits. Although this is not necessarily designed to protect the incoming wiring - the power cord running from the power source to the boat's panel - it would have that effect. Do you put main breakers in the panels (consumer units?) you use on boats over there? Please do PM me a copy of your correspondence with LC and Dan. You have piqued my curiosity in that regard.
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Post by smileypete on Aug 8, 2016 16:05:35 GMT
Most panels have way more breaker amps wired into them than they are rated for, with the idea being that you simply can't use everything all at the same time. There is then a main circuit breaker that switches of the entire panel if someone tries to draw too much current all at once without overloading the individual circuits. Although this is not necessarily designed to protect the incoming wiring - the power cord running from the power source to the boat's panel - it would have that effect. Do you put main breakers in the panels (consumer units?) you use on boats over there? Please do PM me a copy of your correspondence with LC and Dan. You have piqued my curiosity in that regard. PM sent. Domestic eleccy installs for houses here are pretty much the same, the issue with boats is plugging a 16A shoreline connection into a 32A bollard which I guess are more common on the coast but a few inland. Although there's a risk of overloading cable and shoreline connector, I guess the real risk of actual damage or injury is vanishingly small compared to the usual boaty risks. For a typical narrowboat with a straightforward eleccy install you'd have shoreline socket feeding an RCD (GFCI in US terms) from that a single 16A MCB (current breaker) feeding all the sockets. The RCD and MCB would be in a small consumer unit. With an inverter you'd have a dual pole changeover switch before the consumer unit to select shoreline or inverter, with possibly an additional pole on the switch used to stop the inverter feeding chargers and water heaters! Also for plugging into shore power long term a galvanic isolator or isolation transformer is worth having.
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