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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 9:55:33 GMT
As in the title really, I'm thinking of fitting a diesel stove as an alternative to solid fuel. So I can have the choice of either but wonder if I'd be wasting my time with one of these?
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 19, 2019 10:00:29 GMT
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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 10:10:52 GMT
Thanks for that, a bit small for me then, although the idea is just to use it when it's not cold enough for a solid fuel fire.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 13:28:11 GMT
You could look at Refleks. I put a little refleks 66 in my inspection launch last autumn. It is quite a small boat (40x9ft). Ran it continuously all winter and also have a very small french wood burner. I never turned up the refleks higher than minimum and a lot of the time it was comfy without using the wood burner. Will boil a kettle or cook a stew at minimum setting. Approx 2 litres diesel in 24h. I think if you have a sensible solid fuel you could put in a little Refleks and find it useful to fill in the gaps as a secondary heat source. For primary you would want a bigger one..
Try to get one with the top hot plate as its great for cooking.
66M output is up to 1.6kw.
Great heaters in my limited experience (mild winter).
Your boat is a lot bigger. What I would do is have two multi fuels one towards each end and the refleks in the centre.
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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 14:01:32 GMT
The refLeeks is another one I was looking at, I want one that doesn't need power to run. I have a big solid fuel stove in the front cabin of the boat, but I sleep central so was thinking of installing the diesel near my bed hole so just as an alternative when it's not really cold but you need a bit of heating.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 14:12:27 GMT
I'd go for the smaller rather than larger unit partly because the pot burners tend to coke up more if run too slowly. I did once see a nice Dutch kotter yacht where they had installed a pair of Refleks 66 units in a "mirror" configuration. They are so compact they hardly take any room. I thought that was clever as it gives backup like twin engines would . They are quite expensive units though but do turn up secondhand now and then. Running a diesel heater does start to get costly if you use it a lot. Another unit to look out for is Glembring phil70 had one of those.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Apr 19, 2019 14:22:05 GMT
Running a diesel heater does start to get costly if you use it a lot. It would probably be better if Kris sourced a more economical fuel than diesel. Perhaps if he looked around he might be able to locate some wood shavings held together with some type of organic binder?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 14:24:11 GMT
That's a crap idea.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 14:28:09 GMT
Going back to diesel heaters it would be worth getting some info as to brand names from peter bargemast. The reason I say that is that a potential source of secondhand units is Dutch boats which have been bought to the UK and refurbished. For example the Refleks I have is branded "Heatpol" and I believe it came from a Dutch cruiser. It is identical to a Refleks 66MK but if you were searching for refleks you might not find it. I bought it from another boater. Just a thought to improve the chances of finding something good and not too expensive.
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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 14:32:18 GMT
Running a diesel heater does start to get costly if you use it a lot. It would probably be better if Kris sourced a more economical fuel than diesel. Perhaps if he looked around he might be able to locate some wood shavings held together with some type of organic binder? I was thinking of heating oil at 50p a litre at the min, I promise not to put any in my engine honestly.
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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 14:34:15 GMT
Going back to diesel heaters it would be worth getting some info as to brand names from peter bargemast . The reason I say that is that a potential source of secondhand units is Dutch boats which have been bought to the UK and refurbished. For example the Refleks I have is branded "Heatpol" and I believe it came from a Dutch cruiser. It is identical to a Refleks 66MK but if you were searching for refleks you might not find it. I bought it from another boater. Just a thought to improve the chances of finding something good and not too expensive. They come up cheap regularly, that's why I'm asking about the Kabola, as there is one available cheap at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 14:39:22 GMT
I had Old Dutch on Parglena it was more than enough at 4kw, never really opened it up, mostly ran it on tickover. Replaced it when diesel went up from 26ppl with a Charnwood Country 4 multifuel again never really opened it up. Good easy but not so cheap to run these days.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 14:41:19 GMT
No the Old Dutch is 4kw not 1.6kw
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Post by kris on Apr 19, 2019 14:56:14 GMT
No the Old Dutch is 4kw not 1.6kw So the old Dutch are all 4kw are they? It's just I'm looking at one at the moment. 4kw would probably do me to be fair. Have you got any tips with what to watch out for on them?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 15:09:46 GMT
No the Old Dutch is 4kw not 1.6kw So the old Dutch are all 4kw are they? It's just I'm looking at one at the moment. 4kw would probably do me to be fair. Have you got any tips with what to watch out for on them? Not really they are pretty simple. Make sure there is enough head on the supply otherwise it will struggle to burn clean mine used to run better when the tank was full giving 2-3ft extra head.
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