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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 8:15:34 GMT
Oh OK that makes sense.
Also links service access with Newark office opening hours which is quite annoying.
It seems problematic if all services went the same way as there would be too many phone calls taking place.
Also quite an interesting side effect being ability to track individual use of service points by recording phone numbers ..
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Post by kris on Jun 25, 2019 8:36:19 GMT
It's good if the developers haven't been allowed to close the facilities and leave them closed.
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Post by Jim on Jun 25, 2019 9:10:50 GMT
A few years back on the Lancaster they had electronic fob locks, a bit of a bugger when you turn up, don't know, haven't got and can't get till you go by the office in Galgate.
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Post by markhez on Jun 25, 2019 9:34:56 GMT
A few years back on the Lancaster they had electronic fob locks, a bit of a bugger when you turn up, don't know, haven't got and can't get till you go by the office in Galgate. And now there is neither the fob locks, or the office in Galgate! (and the facilities seem to be closed every other week)
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Post by kris on Jun 25, 2019 9:37:44 GMT
A few years back on the Lancaster they had electronic fob locks, a bit of a bugger when you turn up, don't know, haven't got and can't get till you go by the office in Galgate. And now there is neither the fob locks, or the office in Galgate! (and the facilities seem to be closed every other week) Your doing well if they are open alternate weeks.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Jun 25, 2019 9:39:28 GMT
Possibly, one solution could be to have locks which are operated using cards, which can be remotely barred in cases of misuse, in the same way that many hotels use room key cards which are automatically disabled once the guest has checked out.
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Post by kris on Jun 25, 2019 10:09:42 GMT
Possibly, one solution could be to have locks which are operated using cards, which can be remotely barred in cases of misuse, in the same way that many hotels use room key cards which are automatically disabled once the guest has checked out. This would be the way forward to stop vandalism, but as usual crt will plead poverty so they can't do it. Whilst footing the bill for all the repairs.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 25, 2019 10:51:15 GMT
cards are very cheap when purchased in bulk ..... literally coppers each and it would also give CRT another method of checking boat movements (hmmmmm maybe I should rephrase that )
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Post by naughtyfox on Jun 25, 2019 10:56:57 GMT
It seems problematic if all services went the same way as there would be too many phone calls taking place. "999 emergency, which service do you require?" "Err... umm... Elsan please."
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Post by kris on Jun 25, 2019 10:57:02 GMT
cards are very cheap when purchased in bulk ..... literally coppers each and it would also give CRT another method of checking boat movements (hmmmmm maybe I should rephrase that ) It's the lock mechanisms that they claim are exspensive.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 11:01:57 GMT
So the question then arises would license payers be happy to pay an extra £1 a week for secure water and elsan points available only to license payers? Or is that too much money?
Hypothetical question.
Why have a system where any hedgehog munching caravanner can dump their shit when they have never paid a penny towards boater services. Same goes for bins.
The potential for abuse is huge.
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Post by kris on Jun 25, 2019 11:10:33 GMT
So the question then arises would license payers be happy to pay an extra £1 a week for secure water and elsan points available only to license payers? Or is that too much money? Hypothetical question. Why have a system where any hedgehog munching caravanner can dump their shit when they have never paid a penny towards boater services. Same goes for bins. The potential for abuse is huge. Why with you is it always about boaters paying more? Oh yes that brown envelope from crt! Any extra cost of a more secure lock key system would soon be mitigated by the savings on the repair budget. If cart then invested in the facilities they could then charge entry to cyclists and ramblers so creating an extra revenue stream. But the lack of imagination and joined up thinking by the different depts of cart is the limiting factor in the equation.
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Post by JohnV on Jun 25, 2019 11:18:13 GMT
It is possibly because of the systems they are looking at ...... I haven't been involved with card/proximity security/access systems for some years now and I am sure there has been a hell of a lot of changes in that time. However even back 10 years ago there were systems around where the reader used the internet to contact the controlling computer system to request permission for that door to be opened by that card as opposed to the older systems where a full CPU was needed locally. Internet using security devices using either central control via wire or cellphone technology are now pretty common and I would have thought the price must be a lot cheaper than it used to be. I suspect the whole system could be cloud centred nowadays. but that is way above my IT paygrade If CRT were really smart they could tie the system into the electronic lock controls used on the Northern canals and increase their surveillance capabilities
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 11:24:29 GMT
Just a quick question - how often do you find the door left open so no need to use a key?
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Post by JohnV on Jun 25, 2019 11:34:40 GMT
Just a quick question - how often do you find the door left open so no need to use a key? If you are talking about the systems I used to instal ..... then never ..... if the door remained open beyond a certain time an alarm went off and because each card or fob has a unique code then you know who last opened it and they were then in deep doo doo ..... apart from anything else that card could then be blocked from accessing anything else
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