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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 12:06:14 GMT
name people publicly. It isnt the correct way to deal with situations like this. I disagree - we don't want those twats giving our boat the OK if it isn't. I'd like to know who they are so we can give them a wide berth. I think the BSS is a good idea as far as the important things go - gas, electrics, major safety issues - but CO alarms and ventilation is silly, and a price of £20 seems more reasonable. Well there we will differ. It absolutely isn't the best use of a forum to go gobbing off about situations like this, it is up to the boat owner to decide if they want to persue the BSS for an explanation as to how this shoddy wok had been allowed to pass multiple BSS inspections - not you or me. It is then up to the BSS to decide what action should be taken - again, not you or me.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 12:28:52 GMT
Ventilation, ok is advisory, but we have had several deaths in recent years, not just in boats, from Co poisoning, I have no problem with it being mandatory. A potentially life saving device, especially if your ventilation is below regs. I am being more than a little cynical I will admit - we have had a CO monitor onboard for 5 odd years; certainly since the Dwarf was born. Have you spotted what is wrong with one of those joints in the 3rd photo?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 13:01:32 GMT
Ventilation, ok is advisory, but we have had several deaths in recent years, not just in boats, from Co poisoning, I have no problem with it being mandatory. A potentially life saving device, especially if your ventilation is below regs. I am being more than a little cynical I will admit - we have had a CO monitor onboard for 5 odd years; certainly since the Dwarf was born. Have you spotted what is wrong with one of those joints in the 3rd photo? Is the answer...’it’s not connected to anything’?
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Post by Jim on May 22, 2019 13:37:25 GMT
Ventilation, ok is advisory, but we have had several deaths in recent years, not just in boats, from Co poisoning, I have no problem with it being mandatory. A potentially life saving device, especially if your ventilation is below regs. I am being more than a little cynical I will admit - we have had a CO monitor onboard for 5 odd years; certainly since the Dwarf was born. Have you spotted what is wrong with one of those joints in the 3rd photo? Calortite red hermetite has been used. Can see it round the olive. Also the test point is on a blanked off spur, not sure about that.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:13:27 GMT
I am being more than a little cynical I will admit - we have had a CO monitor onboard for 5 odd years; certainly since the Dwarf was born. Have you spotted what is wrong with one of those joints in the 3rd photo? Calortite red hermetite has been used. Can see it round the olive. Also the test point is on a blanked off spur, not sure about that. Spot on with the red snot 👍👌 That is a 1/4” tube - nothing abnormal there; shame it went into a 5/16” branch on the tee 🤦🏼♂️ There is a copper washer backing up the 1/4” olive to take up the slack between olive and union. That blanked off test point was hidden under the oven, two tees to service a hob and oven, a compression tee with an incorrectly sized tube in one branch, and a soldered tee serving the appliances. I’d love to meet the bellends who thought that little lot was acceptable - both the guy that did it and the subsequent inspectors who passed it all; it wasn’t so well hidden that it couldn’t be found as proved by this years BSS inspection 🕵️♀️
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:14:44 GMT
I am being more than a little cynical I will admit - we have had a CO monitor onboard for 5 odd years; certainly since the Dwarf was born. Have you spotted what is wrong with one of those joints in the 3rd photo? Is the answer...’it’s not connected to anything’? Thankfully it’s now on the scrap pile where it rightfully belongs 👍
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2019 15:38:10 GMT
Ventilation, ok is advisory, but we have had several deaths in recent years, not just in boats, from Co poisoning, I have no problem with it being mandatory. A potentially life saving device, especially if your ventilation is below regs. People are well aware of CO alarms and the danger of poisoning from CO, and if they aren't, or are too mean to buy a CO alarm, then Nature will take care of them one way or another. I don't think the BSS has any right to shove their nose into ventilation matters. If they really are so concerned at the welfare of boaters (hollow laugh), then perhaps the BSS man should ask, at the end of the examination, if the boater has enough money, after forking out £160, if they still have enough money left in their pockets to buy a decent meal, as nutrition is also important. £160 could buy 16 good, healthy, nutritious meals. However, I don't think any BSS man really cares if you die of starvation after having given him your last £160 and having nothing left in the bank.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2019 15:40:34 GMT
I disagree - we don't want those twats giving our boat the OK if it isn't. I'd like to know who they are so we can give them a wide berth. I think the BSS is a good idea as far as the important things go - gas, electrics, major safety issues - but CO alarms and ventilation is silly, and a price of £20 seems more reasonable. Well there we will differ. It absolutely isn't the best use of a forum to go gobbing off about situations like this, it is up to the boat owner to decide if they want to persue the BSS for an explanation as to how this shoddy wok had been allowed to pass multiple BSS inspections - not you or me. It is then up to the BSS to decide what action should be taken - again, not you or me. Yes - but it was you who posted the pics and started this thread in the first place, not the boat owner!! No - I think there should be a site like Tripadvisor for BSS examiners, so that everyone can see if they're any good or not - where's the harm in that? The good, competent ones have nothing to fear, eh?
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2019 15:48:35 GMT
Calortite red hermetite has been used. Can see it round the olive. Also the test point is on a blanked off spur, not sure about that. Spot on with the red snot 👍👌 That is a 1/4” tube - nothing abnormal there; shame it went into a 5/16” branch on the tee 🤦🏼♂️ There is a copper washer backing up the 1/4” olive to take up the slack between olive and union. That blanked off test point was hidden under the oven, two tees to service a hob and oven, a compression tee with an incorrectly sized tube in one branch, and a soldered tee serving the appliances. I’d love to meet the bellends who thought that little lot was acceptable - both the guy that did it and the subsequent inspectors who passed it all; it wasn’t so well hidden that it couldn’t be found as proved by this years BSS inspection 🕵️♀️ I will say, however, that it's good to see you're on the ball with all this. Have you thought of a tour of Thunderboaters' boats to check all our stuff? We could pay you!! I am still surprised as to how someone as young as you knows so much. But it is good to see someone who has brains and sense. I have looked at our copper gas pipe - seems OK to me, and our BSS was 3 years ago, all fine with the gas, but the BSS man did say that the rubber, encased in some metal flexible mesh, gas pipe behind the stove should be got rid of and a copper pipe to replace it - and that's what we had done. I am acutely aware that propane isn't something to be played about with, it's probably the thing that scares me most about boating.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:52:54 GMT
I have always considered that there are two sorts of people in the world. Those that read and write nonsense reviews on the internet in various guises (other than as a form of light entertainment) and those that merely get on with their life, occasionally seeking recommendations from friends and family. From my occasional viewings of 'reviews' I would not be surprised to see them done in green crayon. Internet reviews are best ignored, or left to Mr Stabby to take the mick out of. Rog
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2019 16:05:07 GMT
I use Tripadvisor as a guide - I judge for myself whether the 'Terrible' comments are well-founded or not, by the style, composition, grammar and spelling of the poster. I generally always read just the 'Terrible' comments as I suspect the 'Good' and 'Excellent' comments have been written by said establishments' own staff under threat of the sack if they don't come up with something scintillating.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 16:46:29 GMT
Spot on with the red snot 👍👌 That is a 1/4” tube - nothing abnormal there; shame it went into a 5/16” branch on the tee 🤦🏼♂️ There is a copper washer backing up the 1/4” olive to take up the slack between olive and union. That blanked off test point was hidden under the oven, two tees to service a hob and oven, a compression tee with an incorrectly sized tube in one branch, and a soldered tee serving the appliances. I’d love to meet the bellends who thought that little lot was acceptable - both the guy that did it and the subsequent inspectors who passed it all; it wasn’t so well hidden that it couldn’t be found as proved by this years BSS inspection 🕵️♀️ I will say, however, that it's good to see you're on the ball with all this. Have you thought of a tour of Thunderboaters' boats to check all our stuff? We could pay you!! I am still surprised as to how someone as young as you knows so much. But it is good to see someone who has brains and sense. I have looked at our copper gas pipe - seems OK to me, and our BSS was 3 years ago, all fine with the gas, but the BSS man did say that the rubber, encased in some metal flexible mesh, gas pipe behind the stove should be got rid of and a copper pipe to replace it - and that's what we had done. I am acutely aware that propane isn't something to be played about with, it's probably the thing that scares me most about boating. I started this thread to highlight just how worthless blind faith in the BSS scheme is - Old Goat was being the usual simpering cwdf pudding waffling on about the benefits of the BSS, my example highlighted why this is a bad idea. Your quoted post proves why the scheme is crap - there is nothing at all wrong with using braided gas hose with copper standpipes - that your inspector told you to change them at your cost because he doesn’t like them is exactly why the scheme isn’t worth the paper it is written on. I didn’t do it to rant about the mess I had to clear up.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 16:48:17 GMT
I use Tripadvisor as a guide - I judge for myself whether the 'Terrible' comments are well-founded or not, by the style, composition, grammar and spelling of the poster. I generally always read just the 'Terrible' comments as I suspect the 'Good' and 'Excellent' comments have been written by said establishments' own staff under threat of the sack if they don't come up with something scintillating. I always ignore the terrible comments as they are usually written by complete lunatics - Mr Stabby has proved this point well in the past.
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Post by naughtyfox on May 22, 2019 16:56:09 GMT
The pipe behind our cooker, said the BSS man, was recommended to be changed by the manufacturer of the cooker. We had no idea how old the rubber (braided) pipe was, as rubber deteriorates with time, we thought it not a bad idea to change the pipe for a new one. We also had a new gas regulator and rubber pipes either side of it changed 4 years ago at/by Shire Cruisers in Sowerby Bridge. Just in case, like.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 17:03:16 GMT
The pipe behind our cooker, said the BSS man, was recommended to be changed by the manufacturer of the cooker. We had no idea how old the rubber (braided) pipe was, as rubber deteriorates with time, we thought it not a bad idea to change the pipe for a new one. We also had a new gas regulator and rubber pipes either side of it changed 4 years ago at/by Shire Cruisers in Sowerby Bridge. Just in case, like. So change like for like. £8 odd quid from BES for either a 24” or 36” 8mm hose. why rework the system in ridged when it doesn’t need to be? Your cooker won’t care the first part of the lpg journey is in rubber hose, much like it won’t care the last part is in rubber hose. your BSS man was wrong - no surprise there.
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