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Post by kris on Aug 19, 2019 18:20:49 GMT
I'm sad you didn't tell me the date of your hearing Tony I would have liked to come and supported you. So it was in Derby and not Nottigham? You didn't miss anything Kris, . . some more of that old infection in my left leg had flared up again, . . and with my leg swollen up like a balloon up to the knee, and unable to walk or travel, the Judge agreed to conduct the hearing over the phone. Oh sorry to hear your not well again.
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Post by JohnV on Aug 19, 2019 18:24:24 GMT
damn .... sorry to hear your problem has flared up again Tony
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Post by patty on Aug 19, 2019 18:50:11 GMT
I'm sad you didn't tell me the date of your hearing Tony I would have liked to come and supported you. So it was in Derby and not Nottigham? You didn't miss anything Kris, . . some more of that old infection in my left leg had flared up again, . . and with my leg swollen up like a balloon up to the knee, and unable to walk or travel, the Judge agreed to conduct the hearing over the phone. Hope you have been Drs ..sounds as if u need antibiotics
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Post by Mr Stabby on Aug 20, 2019 21:23:16 GMT
Oh dear, do you have to pay their costs? Why, do you think we should?
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 20, 2019 22:35:26 GMT
Oh dear, do you have to pay their costs? Why, do you think we should? The question of costs has become a very minor issue for C&RT since they made it very clear today, in writing, that they won't be issuing the 'Pleasure Boat Certificate' that was ordered by the Court !
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Post by Gone on Aug 20, 2019 22:45:53 GMT
Why, do you think we should? The question of costs has become a very minor issue for C&RT since they made it very clear today, in writing, that they won't be issuing the 'Pleasure Boat Certificate' that was ordered by the Court ! What was their reasoning for not allowing you to apply for a pleasure boat cert?
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Post by thebfg on Aug 20, 2019 23:12:24 GMT
The question of costs has become a very minor issue for C&RT since they made it very clear today, in writing, that they won't be issuing the 'Pleasure Boat Certificate' that was ordered by the Court ! What was their reasoning for not allowing you to apply for a pleasure boat cert? having followed this, i presume they will only offer a pleasure boat licence, the rivers only licence but that was not the order of the court
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 4:13:39 GMT
Is this 'Contempt of Court'?
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Post by patty on Aug 21, 2019 6:05:44 GMT
Why, do you think we should? The question of costs has become a very minor issue for C&RT since they made it very clear today, in writing, that they won't be issuing the 'Pleasure Boat Certificate' that was ordered by the Court ! Guess it goes back to court..do u ever feel u r on a roundabout that won't stop? I do hope you are coping with the stress of this.
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Post by Jim on Aug 21, 2019 6:07:04 GMT
Is this 'Contempt of Court'? Hopefully. Will we see big Dick in dock?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 6:43:24 GMT
I thought there was "no such thing as a 'Rivers Only' licence" ??
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Post by TonyDunkley on Aug 21, 2019 6:48:19 GMT
There is no question of C&RT not 'allowing' me to apply for a PBC. What they are saying is that - quote (copied and pasted from a C&RT e-mail) - "The Rivers Only Licence is valid for ‘River Waterways’ defined in Schedule 1 of the British Waterways Act 1971, as amended, and constitutes a “pleasure boat certificate” for the purposes of that Act.", and they are then simply following up that demonstrably incorrect statement by ignoring my request for a PBC application form, and referring me to the 'Licensing' pages on their website.
In truth, they've dug themselves into a very deep and messy hole, and they're still digging ! The fantasizing around the 'Rivers Only Licence' constituting a PBC for the purposes of the 1971 BW Act wears a thin veneer of plausibility, . . until a search is made of the 1971 Act, and every other piece of relevant waterway legislation from the 1947 Transport Act, which gave birth to the BTC and took most of the inland waterways into public ownership, to the British Waterways (Transfer of Functions) Order 2012 which farted out the Canal & River Trust.
Nowhere, in any of the aforementioned legislation is there to be found any reference whatsoever to a - "Rivers Only Licence". It is pure fantasy, dreamed up by an assemblage of power crazed megalomaniacs who have now foolishly put themselves into the position of having to explain away their lies to the Courts, . . lies by which they are actively preventing me from complying with the Court Order made last Thursday !
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:34:06 GMT
There is no question of C&RT not 'allowing' me to apply for a PBC. What they are saying is that - quote (copied and pasted from a C&RT e-mail) - "The Rivers Only Licence is valid for ‘River Waterways’ defined in Schedule 1 of the British Waterways Act 1971, as amended, and constitutes a “pleasure boat certificate” for the purposes of that Act.", and they are then simply following up that demonstrably incorrect statement by ignoring my request for a PBC application form, and referring me to the 'Licensing' pages on their website. How can they have missed this?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 21, 2019 7:35:48 GMT
lies by which they are actively preventing me from complying with the Court Order made last Thursday ! If it were me, I'd be in contact with the Court/judge straight away.
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Post by bod on Aug 21, 2019 8:30:27 GMT
There is no question of C&RT not 'allowing' me to apply for a PBC. What they are saying is that - quote (copied and pasted from a C&RT e-mail) - "The Rivers Only Licence is valid for ‘River Waterways’ defined in Schedule 1 of the British Waterways Act 1971, as amended, and constitutes a “pleasure boat certificate” for the purposes of that Act.", and they are then simply following up that demonstrably incorrect statement by ignoring my request for a PBC application form, and referring me to the 'Licensing' pages on their website. In truth, they've dug themselves into a very deep and messy hole, and they're still digging ! The fantasizing around the 'Rivers Only Licence' constituting a PBC for the purposes of the 1971 BW Act wears a thin veneer of plausibility, . . until a search is made of the 1971 Act, and every other piece of relevant waterway legislation from the 1947 Transport Act, which gave birth to the BTC and took most of the inland waterways into public ownership, to the British Waterways (Transfer of Functions) Order 2012 which farted out the Canal & River Trust. Nowhere, in any of the aforementioned legislation is there to be found any reference whatsoever to a - "Rivers Only Licence". It is pure fantasy, dreamed up by an assemblage of power crazed megalomaniacs who have now foolishly put themselves into the position of having to explain away their lies to the Courts, . . lies by which they are actively preventing me from complying with the Court Order made last Thursday !
If I recall correctly, this case was more about, a Licence, attracting 20% VAT, as opposed to a certificate only having 5% VAT. If C&RT can only issue, by statute a "Certificate" then only 5% VAT can be charged, not the 20% that has been charged. Where has the 15% "vat" that was not required to be paid gone?
Bod
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