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Jun 23, 2019 8:40:29 GMT
Post by JohnV on Jun 23, 2019 8:40:29 GMT
and just for Foxey's benefit ...... the chain/warp doesn't just have to be long enough to reach the bottom ....... you need to have much more and the weight of the chain is part of the way the anchor holds as it keeps the pull horizontal Incidentally Shapfell is fitted with an approx 5Kg Danforth anchor and approx 60 foot of 3/8" chain (all chain no warp) that is a 25 foot narrow beam yoghurt pot probably about 3.5 ton (?) eta....... That is what she was equipped with when I purchased her and it has been used in the estuary a couple of times ...... incidentally Gazza probably has a better idea of the weight of an Ormelite than I do
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 8:43:18 GMT
Foxy, if you decide at any point it is no good for your boat ie you need something heavier, drop me a line and I'll buy it from you. In the meantime get the heaviest length of chain (about 3ft or more if you want) that you feel you can handle without pulling a muscle (I did retrieving a temporary racing mark once) and perhaps about 30ft of rope.
Then when on the Thames or somewhwere with a relatively fast current, maybe test it in a weir pool below a lock. If it stops you there its ok.
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Jun 23, 2019 8:48:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 8:48:55 GMT
Foxy, if you decide at any point it is no good for your boat ie you need something heavier, drop me a line and I'll buy it from you. In the meantime get the heaviest length of chain (about 3ft or more if you want) that you feel you can handle without pulling a muscle (I did retrieving a temporary racing mark once) and perhaps about 30ft of rope. Then when on the Thames or somewhwere with a relatively fast current, maybe test it in a weir pool below a lock. If it stops you there its ok. ...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it!
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Jun 23, 2019 9:05:28 GMT
Post by Gone on Jun 23, 2019 9:05:28 GMT
Foxy, if you decide at any point it is no good for your boat ie you need something heavier, drop me a line and I'll buy it from you. In the meantime get the heaviest length of chain (about 3ft or more if you want) that you feel you can handle without pulling a muscle (I did retrieving a temporary racing mark once) and perhaps about 30ft of rope. Then when on the Thames or somewhwere with a relatively fast current, maybe test it in a weir pool below a lock. If it stops you there its ok. ...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! I was surprised how few keys it takes to sink a cork ball. I tested mine in a bucket, it sank. Added - it's also a good idea to ensure you have at least one steel key if it is going to sink, that way you can get it back with a magnet on a rope - I know this from when my car keys fell from my pocket into 4ft of water.........
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Jun 23, 2019 9:06:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:06:48 GMT
Foxy, if you decide at any point it is no good for your boat ie you need something heavier, drop me a line and I'll buy it from you. In the meantime get the heaviest length of chain (about 3ft or more if you want) that you feel you can handle without pulling a muscle (I did retrieving a temporary racing mark once) and perhaps about 30ft of rope. Then when on the Thames or somewhwere with a relatively fast current, maybe test it in a weir pool below a lock. If it stops you there its ok. ...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! The weir pool is a good idea for a test: There's no passing traffic to crash into There's a decently strong current for test purposes If you put the boat bow-on to the wier-fall and the anchor fails to hold it should be simple enough to put the boat into forward gear without any danger of fouling the prop. In any case its unlikely you will end up in the channel. Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:14:30 GMT
...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine. Foxy has a steel narrowboat with a small engine and contaminated fuel.......... but also some very recently added oil...
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Jun 23, 2019 9:14:50 GMT
Post by JohnV on Jun 23, 2019 9:14:50 GMT
...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine. Nope .... it's a narrowboat ..... it's my other boat (Shapfell) that's an Ormelite
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Jun 23, 2019 9:19:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:19:48 GMT
...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! The weir pool is a good idea for a test: There's no passing traffic to crash into There's a decently strong current for test purposes If you put the boat bow-on to the wier-fall and the anchor fails to hold it should be simple enough to put the boat into forward gear without any danger of fouling the prop. In any case its unlikely you will end up in the channel. Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine. Seems like a good idea. My fear would be not being able to pull it back out due to it getting jammed on something. The bottom of a weir might not be a good place to get stuck (PS recognising you could let the warp go from the boat). How about getting someone else to try towing you with the anchor deployed? Not on a canal though because it might damage the lining. Having said all that, we’ve not tested ours yet. We’re just going on ‘big is best’.
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Jun 23, 2019 9:23:01 GMT
Post by JohnV on Jun 23, 2019 9:23:01 GMT
The weir pool is a good idea for a test: There's no passing traffic to crash into There's a decently strong current for test purposes If you put the boat bow-on to the wier-fall and the anchor fails to hold it should be simple enough to put the boat into forward gear without any danger of fouling the prop. In any case its unlikely you will end up in the channel. Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine. . We’re just going on ‘big is best’. Usually a good policy with safety equipment
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Jun 23, 2019 9:28:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:28:08 GMT
. We’re just going on ‘big is best’. Usually a good policy with safety equipment Yes, same policy with women.... PS Chris wants me to clarify that she isn’t fat...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2019 9:43:11 GMT
The weir pool is a good idea for a test: There's no passing traffic to crash into There's a decently strong current for test purposes If you put the boat bow-on to the wier-fall and the anchor fails to hold it should be simple enough to put the boat into forward gear without any danger of fouling the prop. In any case its unlikely you will end up in the channel. Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? If so the anchor will be fine. Seems like a good idea. My fear would be not being able to pull it back out due to it getting jammed on something. The bottom of a weir might not be a good place to get stuck (PS recognising you could let the warp go from the boat). Some reccomend fitting a trip-line with a float on the end although I've never actually seen anybody do it.
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Jun 23, 2019 10:28:07 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Jun 23, 2019 10:28:07 GMT
All academic now, we have 'won' that 6kg anchor off of Ebay. It's in Leicester, and we be going through anyway. Will think about the chain when we pick up the anchor. How deep be the Thames betwixt Oxford and Reading? So now you have a garden ornament what are you going to do for an anchor? Attach a sack of coal to go down with it.Foxy you do suprise me I have a whole bag of surprises just waiting to be opened!!
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Jun 23, 2019 10:33:51 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Jun 23, 2019 10:33:51 GMT
...and if not... I think testing is important. I found my cork ball key fob sunk once because there were too many keys on it! Anyway did I read Foxy's boat is an Ormelite? It's a 40-foot steel narrowboat. Actually, in time of trouble, my plan is to sling the anchor round a tree.
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Jun 23, 2019 10:35:49 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Jun 23, 2019 10:35:49 GMT
What happens if we drop the anchor and it hits a diver?
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Jun 23, 2019 10:42:18 GMT
Post by JohnV on Jun 23, 2019 10:42:18 GMT
Whst happens if we drop the anchor and it hits a diver? You divert ?
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