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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 1, 2019 8:31:32 GMT
My next, and final project of the summer is to cut out and and replace the bottom part of the rear door frame, which is rotten. It's taken me an age to work out how to do this but I think I've nailed it by using a combination of several different timber sections, glued/ nailed together. There's a bit of a channel that the frame sits in/ on, there's some rust going on in there. The integrity of the frame will rely mostly on glue between the wood and the steel channel, I'm going to use PU18. Given that I can't get an angle grinder in the channel I'm wondering how to best deal with the rust to ensure the best adhesion possible.
My ideas are to either use a wire brush then scratch the hell out of the steel with an old chisel, wire brush then rust converter, or not worry about it too much, PU18 will stick well enough whatever.
What do you reckon?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 8:40:33 GMT
A cold chisel or pin punch hammered into any loose rust should break it up then vacuum it if you have a vacuum.
Without a vacuum you could use sticky tape to lift the loose stuff.
Worth getting it out before putting the PU18 on.
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Post by faffer on Aug 2, 2019 2:35:27 GMT
I have used wire brush type fittings in drills and Dremmels before. Works well. Alsng as the loose bit are out then rust converter added it will be reat  |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 5, 2019 15:29:36 GMT
This job is taking an age but going OK so far. I've cut out the rotten wood and cut and assembled the replacement bits. Everything fits nicely. Prepared the channels with a wire brush on a drill (thanks for the tip!) and rust converter. I've primed and glossed the replacement timber, I know I'll need another coat or two but thought it would do no harm and be easier than when the timber is in place. Picking up the PU18 tomorrow, then I'll be ready to stick it all together.
One job always leads to another. Alas, this is the case here. I've found that the bottom inch or so in one corner of the door is going soft. The obvious thing to do is to use the existing door as a template and cut a new door, it's only 24mm plywood, I have a jig saw. Problem is drilling etc. then fitting the mortice type lock to the new door is well outside my comfort zone. I've had a look to see if I can work out what needs doing but when I remove the 2 machine screws from the lock plate that fits on the edge of the door the lock plate won't shift. I'm now wondering whether I could cut out the bottom of the door, say 4 inches up, cut an offcut of ply to fit then secure it with 2 steel strips running the full height of the door, inside and out. I'm thinking this would do no harm, would strengthen the door actually.
What would you do?
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Post by Jim on Aug 5, 2019 16:52:12 GMT
Can you post pics?
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 5, 2019 17:05:10 GMT
No, I've tried several times, more than a few members have explained how, doesn't work for me, I'm a dinosaur.
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Post by Jim on Aug 5, 2019 20:40:22 GMT
No, I've tried several times, more than a few members have explained how, doesn't work for me, I'm a dinosaur. Try the TapaTalk app, you just attach the pic, no bother over hosting the pic on imgur etc. TapaTalk just sorts the job for you. I only use it when I want to post a pic. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 21:11:40 GMT
Its helpful but Clinton Cool will not understand it as he is a dyed in the wool dinosaur. A real one me thinks. |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 5, 2019 21:22:32 GMT
Its helpful but Clinton Cool will not understand it as he is a dyed in the wool dinosaur. A real one me thinks. This is very close to the truth. I use a phone as a phone, if I want to go online I use my computer. It has proper sized keys, not piffling little areas of screen so my fat fingers always hit the wrong bit. Plus, phones screens are far too small to be of use for the internet. Now, when I hear 'app' I think phone. I do this because after streams of people told me "you should get Whatapp" I tried, but apparently it only works on a phone. So apps are for phones. I vaguely understand what a computer program is, and I know what websites are, but that's about it. I spend a fair bit of time online which is unfortunate because I detest technology, I don't understand it and it's all as dull as dishwater. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2019 21:33:35 GMT
I think that's where Steve jobs had it sorted money wise with "apple" being a shortened version of "application". Now called "apps" of course. Personally I can't deal with apple stuff and would never give them a penny but it was an incredibly successful business. I've got my old man's iphone 3 and yes it is a good consumer product.
I am guilty of using phone and tablet for some things but I can see the scam quite clearly. Advertising in your pocket and in your face because people can't bear to leave such a cool toy in their pocket.
And it knows where you are and what you are doing so its hyper-aggressive targeted advertising. Nasty shit.
I just hope when my kids become adults this shit will have been sidelined.
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Post by patty on Aug 6, 2019 6:32:49 GMT
Its helpful but Clinton Cool will not understand it as he is a dyed in the wool dinosaur. A real one me thinks. This is very close to the truth. I use a phone as a phone, if I want to go online I use my computer. It has proper sized keys, not piffling little areas of screen so my fat fingers always hit the wrong bit. Plus, phones screens are far too small to be of use for the internet. Now, when I hear 'app' I think phone. I do this because after streams of people told me "you should get Whatapp" I tried, but apparently it only works on a phone. So apps are for phones. I vaguely understand what a computer program is, and I know what websites are, but that's about it. I spend a fair bit of time online which is unfortunate because I detest technology, I don't understand it and it's all as dull as dishwater. I'm not very IT savvy but have learnt a few things so that I have an awareness of what its about. Never downloaded an app..kids do that.. When mess up computer I follow instructions over the phone from the Apple guys and normally manage to sort..its always summit Ive done. I do not really enjoy IT but its a devil i need to dance with. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2019 6:43:18 GMT
These are the tools I would be reaching for if I wanted to fit a mortise lock. For sake of ease, I'd try and get the chisel and auger to be the same width as the lock I wanted to fit. The marking gauge will make it easier to get it dead-centre, but you could manage without it with a bit of care.    Or, just fit a rim lock...not nearly as good but a damn sight easier!  I can post pics but for the life of me I can't work out how to make them stay more than 48hrs so if you want them for reference then download them while ye can... |
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Post by JohnV on Aug 6, 2019 7:09:03 GMT
I love reading these posts from other Technophobes ...... it means I don't feel so alone  |
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 10, 2019 7:33:01 GMT
Well that's another job completed. When I cut out the rotten wood of the frame its construction was different to that what my measuring tape told me. This made it easier in a way, just 2x1 and 1x1. Only problem was, one of the timbers, rather than being the usual 21mm or so finished size of 2x1, was around 18mm. So, to avoid a large step where they join I had to chisel off 3mm across the full lengths. A combination of pu sealant, wood glue, the odd screw and nail covered in wood filler and sanded. The frame is rock solid now, it was a bit wobbly before. You can see the joints, but only just, it's not a bad job really.
I think the new door is a job for next year, the existing one is still serviceable.
Next: Design and fit a frame built from handrail steel, to protect my nearly new bike, should a boat ram me from an angle at the stern
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