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Aug 15, 2019 19:22:43 GMT
Post by bills on Aug 15, 2019 19:22:43 GMT
Water expands +4% between 4°C and 100°C. I have no idea what this means to sea levels but it must be a factor? Presumably it also expands from 4°C to 0°C so that cold water warming up must negate some of the warmer stuff heating up. I'd have thought the majority of the oceans are bloody cold, and colder the deeper you measure. Round in a nice circle there. No - it contacts between 0 and 4 deg C due to hydrogen bonding, which is why ice floats. The solid phase of every other substance sinks in its own liquid phase.
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Aug 15, 2019 21:45:16 GMT
Post by rockdodger on Aug 15, 2019 21:45:16 GMT
Out shopping with Mrs B this morning, called for a snack at KFC and we were both shocked and stunned that they are still using plastic straws... Unbelievable!😡 Doesn't look too shocked.....or stunned
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Post by Gone on Aug 15, 2019 22:44:10 GMT
and I suppose if all the frozen fresh water in the world (including the ice cap at the south pole, all the glaciers in the world and the icecap over Greenland) melted then the sea level won't rise much either ................. depends what you mean by 'that much'. Consider that most of the world's population lives in coastal locations below an altitude of 200ft. They will all be rendered homeless.I doubt that considering most of the ice that we see is 90% under water it will displace the ice. I have seen plenty of studies which proof it will be nowhere near a 200ft rise. Lets not forget it will take over 5000 years to melt it all, if it all goes. Just checked the map and my house is more than 200 ft, so not only will I be ok, but I won’t have to travel for a beach holiday, as the sea will come to me.
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Aug 15, 2019 22:58:24 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 22:58:24 GMT
Point of order, he wasn't a clown he was a cnut. The legend of Cnut is often misunderstood; he commanded the waves to retreat in order to demonstrate the limits of power, not because he believed he could command the waves... Global warming is bad. Very bad. But everyone on this forum will be dead by the time the negative effects are fully recognised...probably.
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Aug 16, 2019 5:56:39 GMT
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Post by Jim on Aug 16, 2019 5:56:39 GMT
Global warming is bad. Very bad. Why? Bring it in says I. Then we can build 'affordable housing' for all the immigrants on Antarctica. They will be Emigrants. Not Immigrants, nobody wants them.
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Post by Jim on Aug 16, 2019 7:06:09 GMT
Firstly, Foolish Fox, penguins and bears don't inhabit the same hemisphere, secondly, the ice will have melted. So your evidential photo is evidently fake. What else to expect from a climate change denier and a Quitling.
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Aug 16, 2019 7:11:31 GMT
Post by naughtyfox on Aug 16, 2019 7:11:31 GMT
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Aug 16, 2019 7:27:23 GMT
Post by Jim on Aug 16, 2019 7:27:23 GMT
Pingu says NO! A couple of million of his mates agree.
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Post by bodger on Aug 16, 2019 12:30:41 GMT
and I suppose if all the frozen fresh water in the world (including the ice cap at the south pole, all the glaciers in the world and the icecap over Greenland) melted then the sea level won't rise much either ................. depends what you mean by 'that much'. Consider that most of the world's population lives in coastal locations below an altitude of 200ft. They will all be rendered homeless.I doubt that considering most of the ice that we see is 90% under water it will displace the ice. I have seen plenty of studies which proof it will be nowhere near a 200ft rise. Lets not forget it will take over 5000 years to melt it all, if it all goes. I said ICECAPS. The icecap in Antarctica is thousands of feet thick, it is not 'underwater'. Nor are glaciers. if you mean that melting icebergs (and other floating ice) have little effect on the sea level you are absolutely correct. Putting aside details like the thermal expansion of H2O, a melting iceberg will not change the level at all. If in doubt refer to Mr Archimedes. The effect of all the frozen water on the planet melting is well documented and easily calculated if you have the geographical information to hand. The result is 67 metres (200 feet). If you doubt it go google.
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Aug 16, 2019 13:01:19 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 16, 2019 13:01:19 GMT
Global warming is bad. Very bad. But everyone on this forum will be dead by the time the negative effects are fully recognised...probably. Unfortunately not as the negative effects are already being felt around the world. It's this kind of ostrich thinking that is part of the problem.
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Aug 16, 2019 13:19:08 GMT
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Post by thebfg on Aug 16, 2019 13:19:08 GMT
I doubt that considering most of the ice that we see is 90% under water it will displace the ice. I have seen plenty of studies which proof it will be nowhere near a 200ft rise. Lets not forget it will take over 5000 years to melt it all, if it all goes. I said ICECAPS. The icecap in Antarctica is thousands of feet thick, it is not 'underwater'. Nor are glaciers. if you mean that melting icebergs (and other floating ice) have little effect on the sea level you are absolutely correct. Putting aside details like the thermal expansion of H2O, a melting iceberg will not change the level at all. If in doubt refer to Mr Archimedes. The effect of all the frozen water on the planet melting is well documented and easily calculated if you have the geographical information to hand. The result is 67 metres (200 feet). If you doubt it go google. Yes you did, but you replied to me and I was talking about icebergs. In 5000 years the ice caps may or may not of melted
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Aug 16, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
Post by kris on Aug 16, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
I said ICECAPS. The icecap in Antarctica is thousands of feet thick, it is not 'underwater'. Nor are glaciers. if you mean that melting icebergs (and other floating ice) have little effect on the sea level you are absolutely correct. Putting aside details like the thermal expansion of H2O, a melting iceberg will not change the level at all. If in doubt refer to Mr Archimedes. The effect of all the frozen water on the planet melting is well documented and easily calculated if you have the geographical information to hand. The result is 67 metres (200 feet). If you doubt it go google. Yes you did, but you replied to me and I was talking about icebergs. In 5000 years the ice caps may or may not of melted I think you'll find it a lot quicker than 5000 years.
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Aug 16, 2019 13:45:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 13:45:01 GMT
Is it ostrich like ? I remain unconvinced that man can be responsible for change in a climate that has changed constantly throughout the Earth's existence. The greatest 'evils' identified by the climate protesters are committed by others. I think Mr Stabby 's jokey comment is very true in reality. Climate change is about what other people do. Rog
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Post by kris on Aug 16, 2019 13:48:12 GMT
Is it ostrich like ? I remain unconvinced that man can be responsible for change in a climate that has changed constantly throughout the Earth's existence. The greatest 'evils' identified by the climate protesters are committed by others. I think Mr Stabby 's jokey comment is very true in reality. Climate change is about what other people do. Rog Unfortunately by the time everyone is convinced it will be too late. I'm not saying it's all man made, but try arguing with the residents of the low lying Pacific islands that it's not happening NOW!
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Aug 16, 2019 13:59:40 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 13:59:40 GMT
Fair do's ... but I would suggest that there's little in your life style you can cut away or transform to make a significant difference, and the same is probably true for most of us.
Does anyone REALLY believe that, for example changing drinking straws from plastic to paper will make any kind of quantifiable difference?
Politicians flying around the world to discuss reductions in green houses gases must surely be a farce, or am I being naive.
Rog
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