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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 28, 2019 11:15:31 GMT
Time for a civil war. Brexiteers against Remoaners. Cull the population = more houses & jobs become available. Less CO2 pollution = helps to prevent climate change = win win.
As we have met Jim and he is 'OK' he can come and live with us for the duration of the punch-up. No need to actually kill or maim anyone, just round the Remainers up and ship them to Ostende/Calais/Hamburg.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 11:20:29 GMT
Judging by the success of Germany since ww2 I think UK should start WW3 and deliberately lose it. Clear out some of the rude and inconsiderate useless youth. They said it was lucky we won ww2 or we would all be speaking German however Germany lost and they ain't all speaking English
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 11:22:27 GMT
Anyone else find it mildly amusing that MP's are all hot under the collar because it will reduce the time available to introduce law to block leaving without a deal ? Three years they've had ... three years ... at the eleventh hour they suddenly want to TRY to be decisive. I am stunned that the blonde bombshell is demonstrating such a degree of cunning. My guess is he either gets his way and suspends parliament until 14 October ... or he wins a vote of no confidence and gets his way above ... or he loses such a vote and a general election is called ... in which case I assume he believes all those disgusted with parliaments record on the issue rally to his flag. A plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel Hands up if you are sick of the issue ... lets get out finally or stay in finally ... but lets do something for goodness sake. Rog
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Post by Gone on Aug 28, 2019 11:36:36 GMT
Anyone else find it mildly amusing that MP's are all hot under the collar because it will reduce the time available to introduce law to block leaving without a deal ? Three years they've had ... three years ... at the eleventh hour they suddenly want to TRY to be decisive. I am stunned that the blonde bombshell is demonstrating such a degree of cunning. My guess is he either gets his way and suspends parliament until 14 October ... or he wins a vote of no confidence and gets his way above ... or he loses such a vote and a general election is called ... in which case I assume he believes all those disgusted with parliaments record on the issue rally to his flag. A plan so cunning you could pin a tail on it and call it a weasel Hands up if you are sick of the issue ... lets get out finally or stay in finally ... but lets do something for goodness sake. Rog For 3 years they have been successful. They don’t want to leave, but they know they will not get re-elected if they blatantly ignore the referendum, so the tactic has been to go for endless extensions in the hope that eventually everyone has forgotten the referendum and we can have a general election instead.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 13:41:19 GMT
BTW, I went over to the other side (to gloat) and found that Denial has hidden the political thread. I wonder why? Joking aside, I really don’t understand why so many people want to ban political discussions when all they need to do is not read posts in threads titled ‘politics’. How does banning open discussion fit the democratic process? Isn’t that more like dictatorship? Presumably because the forum members voted for it. They ran a poll a short while back and asked should it be hidden from 'view new content' and presumably the majority voted for it to be so. So actually it could be argued it was a democratic decision after all. Even though a private forum doesn't have to be run democratically at all.
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Post by Gone on Aug 28, 2019 14:23:39 GMT
So it's democratic that a number of mp's continuously block the referendum instruction to parliament??? Basically the people got it wrong and must be made to vote again, and if they get it wrong again, then vote again.......... An interesting idea of democracy. Don't agree with you here. Our whole democracy set up is based upon 'winner does not take all' - I like it like that.
So winner does not take all, interesting. So let’s assume for a moment that the majority voted to remain in the referendum. Would you would now be pushing for another referendum?? Would you be encouraging MPs to try to find a way to quit the E.U. against the referendum result?? Or is it only undemocratic when it’s not what you wanted?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 14:45:59 GMT
The queen has got her rubber stamp out apparently.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 14:49:30 GMT
The queen has got her rubber stamp out apparently. She had no choice. If she refused then we really would have a 'constitutional crisis' on our hands.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 28, 2019 15:07:02 GMT
Boris Johnson wants Turkey to join the EU. Does anyone really trust this Eton buffoon?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 28, 2019 15:14:47 GMT
"Women assembled in Istanbul on International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women are blocked by police, November 25, 2018. ... Parliamentary and presidential elections in Turkey in June 2018 saw President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan re-elected president" "Many terrorism trials in Turkey lack compelling evidence of criminal activity or acts that would reasonably be deemed terrorism, and the practice of holding individuals charged with terrorism offenses in prolonged pretrial detention raised concerns its use has become a form of summary punishment." www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/turkey
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 28, 2019 16:03:18 GMT
Traitor Sourberries, who muddied the waters, going on about a "Peoples' Vote" again: www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1170956/Brexit-news-Anna-Soubry-Tom-Brake-Boris-Johnson-no-deal-prorogation-ParliamentLeader of Change UK (membership 3) - The Independent Group and former Conservative MP Anna Soubry called on her former colleagues to act fast against Boris Johnson's attempts to force a no deal Brexit scenario upon the UK. Speaking to BBC News, Ms Soubry claimed it was now time "to stop this nonsense"* as she branded the Prime Minister and his team "ruthless". She said: “Time now is critical and what I would say to my former Conservative colleagues who have often argued that ‘now it’s not the time, let’s wait, it’ll all be fine and get sorted out’, I think that they now see how ruthless Boris Johnson and his advisers are. *what - you mean deceiving the people who voted for you, Anna? Here's Sour-face scared of another old woman:
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2019 16:13:19 GMT
Don't agree with you here. Our whole democracy set up is based upon 'winner does not take all' - I like it like that.
So winner does not take all, interesting. So let’s assume for a moment that the majority voted to remain in the referendum. Would you would now be pushing for another referendum?? Would you be encouraging MPs to try to find a way to quit the E.U. against the referendum result?? Or is it only undemocratic when it’s not what you wanted? I voted to leave...
No not another referendum but very much (if the result had been as close as it was - just the other way around) for no further integration and to try to resolve 'leavers' concerns from within the EU.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 28, 2019 16:16:37 GMT
"Got to hand it to Boris, all the Remoaners are going apeshit... it’s hilarious. Even the EU bigshots are going mental although what the heck it’s got to do with them I don’t know. Perhaps they’ve been running this country so long they think it’s their Parliament."
"Rise up and seize control of the State!"
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Post by Jim on Aug 28, 2019 17:03:14 GMT
Not happy about this, would anyone care to suggest how this is democracy?
Yes. The majority voted to leave the EU. No mention of a deal was on the voting slip. What you are seeing is the result of everyone’s democratic right to vote. No but the lying tow rag tories said it would be the best and easiest trade deal ever, have our cake and eat it too. Oh and the 350m a day for the NHS. I see boris can't help it can he, latest "MMickey Mowbray pies are popular in Thailand and Iceland." they don't sell them there, according to the man from the pie factory.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Aug 28, 2019 18:21:52 GMT
It's a matter of sovereignty. Parliament is sovereign in these islands but chose to pass that sovereignty to the people on an occasion in 2016. Regretting that, following the 'wrong' decision, parliament used every trick in the book in an attempt to dismiss the sovereignty they gave to the people. Now, Johnson's government is siding with the sovereignty of the people against that of parliament, and has learned from the previous actions of parliament that if the correct outcome can't be obtained through 'normal' actions; tricks are perfectly acceptable.
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