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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 18:47:06 GMT
Twaddle about house prices! They have risen because not enough houses are being built at an affordable price, councils can no longer build social housing and have had to sell off some of their stock. I see. So the arrival of 3m+ financial refugees from Europe isn't part of the demand side of your statement that not enough houses are being built? By the way, house prices are set by the market, the market is the balance between demand and supply. Not, unfortunately for you, by some commie bloke who thinks markets are only for buying fruit and vegetables. The unprecedented rise in property values is driven by two major factors: 1. The ability of fat cats from the City to invest in property either as a second home or as a static cash haven. This practice is not limited to London. 2. Average joes leaping onto the buy-to-let bandwagon, which has been reigned in a bit since the reduction of a tax break, about three years ago. I personally know an ex-cab driver who bought quite a few derelict houses in the north of England entirely on bank loans and rented them. He is your actual slum-landlord who preys directly on the poorest in society and the availability of housing benefit. He now lives in a multi-bedroom mansion in a leafy north London suburb, paid for by a system which encourages exploitation. This is the same system which blames the disenfranchised for the woes of society every time a recession rears its ugly head, which it will continue to do, since economic recession is essential to the function of capitalism. Blaming the poor deflects attention away from the nature of the system you love so much. Its a cynical trick but one which mentally deficient twats fall for every time. Of course, even daring to suggest that the recent economic crash was the result of unmitigated greed is too much for some, but it led to the funnelling of even more cash into property by those with greasy bank accounts. Please refer to point 1 if you feel confused. Just for the record, and to leave you in no doubt that I do not think the sun shines from the arses of the Labour Party faithful, I would remind you it was the easy availability of credit and the buy it now, pay later culture of the society led by the governments of Blair and Brown which sleep-walked us into this current mess. Do not forget that it was Brown who removed restrictions on London's trading markets which had been in place since the global depression sparked by the Wall Street crash of 1929. The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are. Anarchy with responsibility? You clearly utterly fail to understand your own mantra. What a twat.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 8, 2019 18:55:13 GMT
I see. So the arrival of 3m+ financial refugees from Europe isn't part of the demand side of your statement that not enough houses are being built? By the way, house prices are set by the market, the market is the balance between demand and supply. Not, unfortunately for you, by some commie bloke who thinks markets are only for buying fruit and vegetables. The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are.
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 18:58:21 GMT
Focus on Heidi Allen: "Allen was born in 1975 in Notton, a small rural village near Wakefield in West Yorkshire, and received a B.Sc. degree in astrophysics from University College London. Allen worked in corporate positions, including with ExxonMobil and the Royal Mail. In 2008, she joined the family classic-motorcycle paints business, RS Bike Paints Limited, established by her parents in 1978, and now run by her husband Phil Allen." So her degree in astrophysics was a bit of a waste of time and energy, then? "After the referendum Heidi said she would honour the result as she did not want to live in a “ banana republic” that ignored democratic votes. Now it seems that she would like to ignore the referendum after all and is only too happy to live in a banana republic." "She recently denied on Twitter that her conservative constituency members were planning on deselecting her for her opposition to Brexit. Oh yes they were ! According to the Telegraph, one of Heidi’s incisive constituents has got her nailed down to a tee as a “ghastly self-promoter forever flicking her hair on late night tv when she should be representing us”." "And then there’s the tweet she sent to Guy Verhofstadt – “would you give us an extension Guy if we secure a second referendum please?” For this creepy, sickening tweet, Heidi frankly deserves to be hung, drawn and quartered at Traitors Gate." "Allen hasn’t got an original thought, a political parrot just endlessly squawking the same old nonsense that’s shes heard from every other bleating remoaner. She like Soubry, Umunna & co. - had delusions of her own importance in the British political landscape; a third rater who will soon slither over to the lib dums when the thick twat realises she won’t cut it as an independent…" "Heidi Allen is a demented, mad cow, lightweight, self promoting, thick twat. She needs to get back to washing dishes, doing the school round and fingering herself all day. She is incapable of adding anything of substance to this country and it’s governance."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 19:15:55 GMT
But they can vote in a general election and pretty much reject the 'No deal is better than a bad deal' mantra...
Anyway I recon Boris will eat his own sword and send the request for an extension, then vote for the EU to reject it, thus trying again to scupper the will of Parliament.
The will of parliament ! Who gives a toss about the will of parliament when they ignore the will of the people they are supposed to serve. Rog Well lets see what happens in the forthcoming general election.
Time to tuck into Chicken, leek, bacon, leek, cabbage, creamed leek - all near Leek - sadly the weather forecast says the sky will be leaking rather a lot tomorrow so I might stay in Leek another day!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 19:23:40 GMT
The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are. And you encouraged him.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 8, 2019 19:27:07 GMT
I see. So the arrival of 3m+ financial refugees from Europe isn't part of the demand side of your statement that not enough houses are being built? By the way, house prices are set by the market, the market is the balance between demand and supply. Not, unfortunately for you, by some commie bloke who thinks markets are only for buying fruit and vegetables. The unprecedented rise in property values is driven by two major factors: 1. The ability of fat cats from the City to invest in property either as a second home or as a static cash haven. This practice is not limited to London. 2. Average joes leaping onto the buy-to-let bandwagon, which has been reigned in a bit since the reduction of a tax break, about three years ago. I personally know an ex-cab driver who bought quite a few derelict houses in the north of England entirely on bank loans and rented them. He is your actual slum-landlord who preys directly on the poorest in society and the availability of housing benefit. He now lives in a multi-bedroom mansion in a leafy north London suburb, paid for by a system which encourages exploitation. This is the same system which blames the disenfranchised for the woes of society every time a recession rears its ugly head, which it will continue to do, since economic recession is essential to the function of capitalism. Blaming the poor deflects attention away from the nature of the system you love so much. Its a cynical trick but one which mentally deficient twats fall for every time. Of course, even daring to suggest that the recent economic crash was the result of unmitigated greed is too much for some, but it led to the funnelling of even more cash into property by those with greasy bank accounts. Please refer to point 1 if you feel confused. Just for the record, and to leave you in no doubt that I do not think the sun shines from the arses of the Labour Party faithful, I would remind you it was the easy availability of credit and the buy it now, pay later culture of the society led by the governments of Blair and Brown which sleep-walked us into this current mess. Do not forget that it was Brown who removed restrictions on London's trading markets which had been in place since the global depression sparked by the Wall Street crash of 1929. The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are. Anarchy with responsibility? You clearly utterly fail to understand your own mantra. What a twat. I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 8, 2019 19:38:59 GMT
And you encouraged him. Where does Naziism come into it?
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Post by Gone on Sept 8, 2019 19:50:05 GMT
And you encouraged him. Where does Naziism come into it? Some years ago some guy called Godwin stated that whenever an argument raged on a Forum one of the protagonists when they could think of no better argument would inevitably call the other a Nazi or Hitler.
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Post by bills on Sept 8, 2019 20:07:35 GMT
Could we use Mussolini to get round that?
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 20:07:53 GMT
The unprecedented rise in property values is driven by two major factors: 1. The ability of fat cats from the City to invest in property either as a second home or as a static cash haven. This practice is not limited to London. 2. Average joes leaping onto the buy-to-let bandwagon, which has been reigned in a bit since the reduction of a tax break, about three years ago. I personally know an ex-cab driver who bought quite a few derelict houses in the north of England entirely on bank loans and rented them. He is your actual slum-landlord who preys directly on the poorest in society and the availability of housing benefit. He now lives in a multi-bedroom mansion in a leafy north London suburb, paid for by a system which encourages exploitation. This is the same system which blames the disenfranchised for the woes of society every time a recession rears its ugly head, which it will continue to do, since economic recession is essential to the function of capitalism. Blaming the poor deflects attention away from the nature of the system you love so much. Its a cynical trick but one which mentally deficient twats fall for every time. Of course, even daring to suggest that the recent economic crash was the result of unmitigated greed is too much for some, but it led to the funnelling of even more cash into property by those with greasy bank accounts. Please refer to point 1 if you feel confused. Just for the record, and to leave you in no doubt that I do not think the sun shines from the arses of the Labour Party faithful, I would remind you it was the easy availability of credit and the buy it now, pay later culture of the society led by the governments of Blair and Brown which sleep-walked us into this current mess. Do not forget that it was Brown who removed restrictions on London's trading markets which had been in place since the global depression sparked by the Wall Street crash of 1929. The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are. Anarchy with responsibility? You clearly utterly fail to understand your own mantra. What a twat. I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable "Nearly 40,000 failed asylum seekers are still in the UK as the numbers being removed drop by half in four years" www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7413863/Migrants-storm-Kent-beaches-Border-Force-intercepts-army-50-intruders-landing-Dover.html
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 8, 2019 20:09:11 GMT
Could we use Mussolini to get round that? You'll find him hanging around somewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 20:19:09 GMT
And you encouraged him. Where does Naziism come into it? You're right, its the references to commies, Jews, unspecified vermin and foreigners in general that led me to make such an unwarranted assertion. There's nothing in any of it that could lead anybody to a comparison with the Nazis. Silly me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2019 20:23:22 GMT
The unprecedented rise in property values is driven by two major factors: 1. The ability of fat cats from the City to invest in property either as a second home or as a static cash haven. This practice is not limited to London. 2. Average joes leaping onto the buy-to-let bandwagon, which has been reigned in a bit since the reduction of a tax break, about three years ago. I personally know an ex-cab driver who bought quite a few derelict houses in the north of England entirely on bank loans and rented them. He is your actual slum-landlord who preys directly on the poorest in society and the availability of housing benefit. He now lives in a multi-bedroom mansion in a leafy north London suburb, paid for by a system which encourages exploitation. This is the same system which blames the disenfranchised for the woes of society every time a recession rears its ugly head, which it will continue to do, since economic recession is essential to the function of capitalism. Blaming the poor deflects attention away from the nature of the system you love so much. Its a cynical trick but one which mentally deficient twats fall for every time. Of course, even daring to suggest that the recent economic crash was the result of unmitigated greed is too much for some, but it led to the funnelling of even more cash into property by those with greasy bank accounts. Please refer to point 1 if you feel confused. Just for the record, and to leave you in no doubt that I do not think the sun shines from the arses of the Labour Party faithful, I would remind you it was the easy availability of credit and the buy it now, pay later culture of the society led by the governments of Blair and Brown which sleep-walked us into this current mess. Do not forget that it was Brown who removed restrictions on London's trading markets which had been in place since the global depression sparked by the Wall Street crash of 1929. The more you make vile statements about Jewish people and now some half-baked comment about 'commies' just shows you up for the intellectually-challenged ignorant neo-nazi you obviously are. Anarchy with responsibility? You clearly utterly fail to understand your own mantra. What a twat. I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable I am in favour of Brexit. I also want uncontrolled immigration to end. But immigration is an aggravating factor in the housing crisis, not the cause.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Sept 8, 2019 20:32:46 GMT
I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable I am in favour of Brexit. I also want uncontrolled immigration to end. But immigration is an aggravating factor in the housing crisis, not the cause. The increase in demand without the consequent increase of supply is, without any doubt whatsoever, the primary cause of the housing crisis.
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 8, 2019 20:56:52 GMT
Where does Naziism come into it? You're right, its the references to commies, Jews, unspecified vermin and foreigners in general that led me to make such an unwarranted assertion. There's nothing in any of it that could lead anybody to a comparison with the Nazis. Silly me. Where you went astray was that my post was my perception that Labour dislike working class people, and Jews. Hence the vermin tag. Just for clarity, vermin in their eyes, rather than mine.
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