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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 9, 2019 4:07:50 GMT
I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable But immigration is an aggravating factor in the housing crisis, not the cause. There was already a lack of council housing in the 1980s. Of course, if people were given proper wages to start with, there would be no need for council housing at all, everyone could afford to buy their own house - and without loans from the bank. House prices are artificial, just another ruse to keep worker bees in their place.
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Post by Jim on Sept 9, 2019 6:03:36 GMT
Until Boris took over (only 6 weeks ago) Cons (+the Duppers - after May had an election) could have forced through whatever they wanted. Bit rich to start blaming opposition parties. Utter piffle. May decided on a GE to increase her majority ... so they could do as they wished. It blew up in her face as her majority was decimated ... all plans goosed. That's where the rot set in ... a good majority would have seen us out by now on May's deal despite parliament's constant blocking. The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog May did have a Majority with DUP support though, that's the point being discussed. It's the tories fault.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 7:10:09 GMT
Utter piffle. May decided on a GE to increase her majority ... so they could do as they wished. It blew up in her face as her majority was decimated ... all plans goosed. That's where the rot set in ... a good majority would have seen us out by now on May's deal despite parliament's constant blocking. The whole mess was engineered by Cameron and May. Rog May did have a Majority with DUP support though, that's the point being discussed. It's the tories fault. So she didn't have a majority ! With a majority her deal would have been supported and we'd be out. The lack of a majority left us at the mercy of parliament who don't want to leave anyway. Rog
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Post by patty on Sept 9, 2019 7:19:37 GMT
And so the Brexit debate revolves on its infinite wheel ..there is no smooth road just b great potholes ....
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Post by naughtyfox on Sept 9, 2019 7:41:32 GMT
" You can picture Peter Mandelson shambling along to the cashpoint each month to check his EU pension has been paid in, and his subscription to Pornhub has been paid out. Same with Heseltine and his EU subsidy for his arboretum hobby – the EU will pay you thousands to grow trees even if you do nothing with them. If you have a spare ten acres like Heselslime, try it – money for old rope. "
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 8:52:40 GMT
May did have a Majority with DUP support though, that's the point being discussed. It's the tories fault. So she didn't have a majority ! With a majority her deal would have been supported and we'd be out. The lack of a majority left us at the mercy of parliament who don't want to leave anyway. Rog A question for you Rog - why do you think May/Cons didn't get a majority at the last election? Was it part of a conspiracy to overturn Brexit or was it because the majority of voters didn't like her policies enough or something else.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 9, 2019 8:57:32 GMT
I am with Ricco, if people keep on coming here in the numbers that currently are, we will never ever be able to build that number of houses on a continues basis! So that for me is a real reason for affordable houses becoming unaffordable I am in favour of Brexit. I also want uncontrolled immigration to end. But immigration is an aggravating factor in the housing crisis, not the cause. In the past before rampant immigration happened, it was easy to judge if more housing was needed, nowdays you cant half a million could come from the EU daily for a month and the UK would sink!!! Dramatic yes but it is the reality and the problems that we now face.
We are overpopulated, we dont need anymore houses just less people and the quicker that happens the better. Listning to the News today Yorkshire and Lincolnshire have taken the most Syrian refugees in the UK, refugees I agree with, economic migrants I dont
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 9:21:42 GMT
So she didn't have a majority ! With a majority her deal would have been supported and we'd be out. The lack of a majority left us at the mercy of parliament who don't want to leave anyway. Rog A question for you Rog - why do you think May/Cons didn't get a majority at the last election? Was it part of a conspiracy to overturn Brexit or was it because the majority of voters didn't like her policies enough or something else. I've no idea ... but could speculate as easily as you. The point however ... she had a workable majority of 17 and greedily sought to increase it. That went well. Rog
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Post by Clinton Cool on Sept 9, 2019 10:39:37 GMT
Assuming the law to prevent no deal passes today, there remains the law that we leave on 31 October. If there's no deal by then, which seems likely, which of these 2 apparently conflicting laws takes precedence?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 10:44:30 GMT
Assuming the law to prevent no deal passes today, there remains the law that we leave on 31 October. If there's no deal by then, which seems likely, which of these 2 apparently conflicting laws takes precedence? At the moment (things might change) the 'no deal law' effectively amends the 'leave' deal, so the 'no deal law' gains the upper hand.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 9, 2019 11:21:31 GMT
Assuming the law to prevent no deal passes today, there remains the law that we leave on 31 October. If there's no deal by then, which seems likely, which of these 2 apparently conflicting laws takes precedence? At the moment (things might change) the 'no deal law' effectively amends the 'leave' deal, so the 'no deal law' gains the upper hand. Yes the legal bods are looking into that, dont think that it modifies the existing law is what is coming in on my google feed, so who knows what will happen?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 11:28:19 GMT
At the moment (things might change) the 'no deal law' effectively amends the 'leave' deal, so the 'no deal law' gains the upper hand. Yes the legal bods are looking into that, dont think that it modifies the existing law is what is coming in on my google feed, so who knows what will happen? Technically it doesn't modify the existing law - neither did the previous extensions. Result is the same though.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 9, 2019 13:22:59 GMT
Yes the legal bods are looking into that, dont think that it modifies the existing law is what is coming in on my google feed, so who knows what will happen? Technically it doesn't modify the existing law - neither did the previous extensions. Result is the same though. So technically he could follow the orinal law as that has precedence? interesting eh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 13:29:57 GMT
Technically it doesn't modify the existing law - neither did the previous extensions. Result is the same though. So technically he could follow the orinal law as that has precedence? interesting eh That was the choice before the new law was bought in. He now has to follow both laws so in practical (but not technical) terms the second law legally amends the first law. The sooner the extension is agreed the sooner the election can happen - down to Boris de pifle and the EU for timescales now.
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Post by peterboat on Sept 9, 2019 13:38:06 GMT
So technically he could follow the orinal law as that has precedence? interesting eh That was the choice before the new law was bought in. He now has to follow both laws so in practical (but not technical) terms the second law legally amends the first law. The sooner the extension is agreed the sooner the election can happen - down to Boris de pifle and the EU for timescales now. Well the Norty children have been sent home and I honestly believe thatBoris has a trick up his sleeve, plus The EU are saying no means no so lets see what he does? which could involve vetoing the application for an extension as I say interesting times, we are watching what Boris wants us to, while he has a cunning plan ready to use when its all to late to stop him, its classic distraction and its worked very well over the years
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