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Post by Stumpy on Aug 30, 2016 20:55:27 GMT
Why wouldn't it? You just put a bit more sawdust in But aren't you meant to separate the solids from the liquids?
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 31, 2016 10:42:01 GMT
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Post by kris on Aug 31, 2016 11:06:26 GMT
I can't read the red on dark blue background, so if your expecting a reply please change the colour.
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 31, 2016 12:46:26 GMT
1 kris said: Andy if you want a discussion about composting I'm prepared to interact with you
Numerous posters plus myself have asked numerous questions relating to dealing with the mess, general domestic questions and various environmental issues.. All have remained unanswered??
2 kris said: if you just want to revel in playground wee and poo humor then tomsk is your man.
At least he puts his opinion forward... Not having to empty a porta-potty once a week doesn't sound like much of a reason to put up with festering piles of shite to me, but, if you care to give answers, then possible people would be converted!
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Post by kris on Aug 31, 2016 12:57:08 GMT
I think you have misunderstood why I posted pictures of my loo. I'm not after converting anyone. You do with your shit what you like. Just out of interest what kind of toilet do you have on your boat. Composting loo technology is tried and tested technology, I'm not doing anything experimental or out of the ordinary. I have answered questions that I have thought worthy of a reply, not just questions that are asked for humorous effect. Anyway as I say if you want to discuss composting toilets and the reality of them on boats carry on. Ps thank you for changing the colour.
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 31, 2016 14:53:51 GMT
We are happy with out Thetford-Elsan thingy. Wee-ing in the kitchen sink saves carrying unecessary weight in liquid form. In an emergency it can be emptied elsewhere - rinsed with water from, say, a 5-litre water container.
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Post by kris on Aug 31, 2016 15:09:13 GMT
That's exactly it foxy if your happy with it. Can I ask do you use chemicals in your thetford?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 15:11:35 GMT
We are happy with out Thetford-Elsan thingy. Wee-ing in the kitchen sink saves carrying unecessary weight in liquid form. In an emergency it can be emptied elsewhere - rinsed with water from, say, a 5-litre water container. Yeah but, as bassplayer points out, you need a certain amount of liquid for it to break the turds down, just shitting in a box is not a good idea. I've emptied ours 3 times since last Saturday, I can't wait to be shot of the shitty thing. I can see Kris and Pete's reasoning for their choice of shithouse, it's just not for me, I'd rather press a button and say bon voyage to it, hopefully I'm unlikely to have to get too involved in sucking it out of the compliance holding tank
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Post by PaulG2 on Aug 31, 2016 15:11:45 GMT
I think you have misunderstood why I posted pictures of my loo. I'm not after converting anyone. You do with your shit what you like. Just out of interest what kind of toilet do you have on your boat. Composting loo technology is tried and tested technology, I'm not doing anything experimental or out of the ordinary. I have answered questions that I have thought worthy of a reply, not just questions that are asked for humorous effect. Anyway as I say if you want to discuss composting toilets and the reality of them on boats carry on. Ps thank you for changing the colour. I changed to the white background a few weeks back and I find it much easier to read than the blue. Re. your loo - As I understand it, Peter's loo, along with the store bought ones, have some kind of ventilation system that gets rid of the odor and dries the feces a lot faster. Have you added some kind of ventilation to your system? If not, doesn't it get terribly smelly? Toilet bowls get dirty, shit tends to stick to the bowl. How do you clean the bowl? Paper is organic, it's made from wood pulp. It actually composts rather quickly. Do you put the used toilet paper in the bucket? If not how do you handle and dispose of it? Do you put sawdust in the bucket after each use? What's the procedure and where do you acquire the sawdust? Is it coarse sawdust or powdery? Earthworms can aid in composting. Can worms survive in your buckets of shit?
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 31, 2016 16:00:31 GMT
That's exactly it foxy if your happy with it. Can I ask do you use chemicals in your thetford? You may indeed ask! When we borrowed this boat 3 years ago there was already some blue liquid (AquaKem Blue by trade name) that goes 'downstairs' and some pink liquid for the top part. We have since bought our own - it's some kind of formaldehyde? And the pink stuff is some kind of 'freshener'. I put a bit of blue down the loo, straight down the hole with a bit of water, and some pink liquid in the top tank - why it needs 'freshener' is beyond me, but pink is a nice cheery colour and playing with all these mysterious chemicals makes it feel like 'real boating' or 'real camping'. The top part has a flush knob - you pull it up, then pressing it down makes water swirl round the bowl. BUT - clever Foxy - we have 3 old water 1.5 litre bottles beside the loo, they fit in a handy gap, and we use those to save the top tank and having to keep filling that. OK, they don't have the pink stuff in them, but so what? These bottles are also a handy way of filling the top tank when needed, with the aid of a funnel. The top tank can be easily filled also when at a water point - it actually holds a fair amount of water and is pretty heavy. I have an old photo of our bathroom somewhere... hold on....
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Post by naughtyfox on Aug 31, 2016 16:36:04 GMT
I took a lot of photos when we had just bought the boat and I was clearing out the previous owner's belongings in May 2014, here are those of the bathroom. It now looks a lot nicer. We are very happy with our shower as it works very well. That's one of the things I like about being in our boat - waking up around 5am, having a little whisky and tea and biscuits in the kitchen whilst Witchy still sleeps - Classical FM on the radio - the fire already lit with meths - then having a nice hot shower and then getting dressed in the bedroom which is nice and warm by now. In the shower I always use a J-cloth (Tesco's/Sainsbury's own are good) to dry myself before stepping out - it clears 95% of the water from your skin before you use a towel. We also step onto a small towel which absorbs water from the undersides of our feet. Remember to click the i symbol for the text! goo.gl/photos/9WssEo4n9XJQgGWZ6
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Post by kris on Aug 31, 2016 16:58:59 GMT
I think you have misunderstood why I posted pictures of my loo. I'm not after converting anyone. You do with your shit what you like. Just out of interest what kind of toilet do you have on your boat. Composting loo technology is tried and tested technology, I'm not doing anything experimental or out of the ordinary. I have answered questions that I have thought worthy of a reply, not just questions that are asked for humorous effect. Anyway as I say if you want to discuss composting toilets and the reality of them on boats carry on. Ps thank you for changing the colour. I changed to the white background a few weeks back and I find it much easier to read than the blue. Re. your loo - As I understand it, Peter's loo, along with the store bought ones, have some kind of ventilation system that gets rid of the odor and dries the feces a lot faster. Have you added some kind of ventilation to your system? If not, doesn't it get terribly smelly? Toilet bowls get dirty, shit tends to stick to the bowl. How do you clean the bowl? Paper is organic, it's made from wood pulp. It actually composts rather quickly. Do you put the used toilet paper in the bucket? If not how do you handle and dispose of it? Do you put sawdust in the bucket after each use? What's the procedure and where do you acquire the sawdust? Is it coarse sawdust or powdery? Earthworms can aid in composting. Can worms survive in your buckets of shit? it gets a little bit boring going over the same ground , I have actually answered these before. But just for you one last time. The ventilation isn't for the odor, it's to keep air flowing. To help the drying process. I can add one if needed, but I don't really need one. It doesn't smell nasty, it's the urine that goes off and smells worse than the shit mixed with sawdust. Rinsing the urine bottle out when emptying it, keeps the smell off that under control. A quick spray with cleaner and a wipe takes care of keeping the bowl clean. Although paper composts, it composts much slower. So you end up with nice compost with shit roll in it , if you put it in the toilet. I place mine in the stove and burn it. The sawdust is medium course definately not fine, one handful after every visit is enough. Pet shops sell sawdust as pet bedding. Some people do compost with worms, I could have them in the bucket but I don't need them. Once the bucket is full with the lid on, it needs turning once a month or so.
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Post by tomsk on Aug 31, 2016 20:16:51 GMT
I changed to the white background a few weeks back and I find it much easier to read than the blue. Re. your loo - As I understand it, Peter's loo, along with the store bought ones, have some kind of ventilation system that gets rid of the odor and dries the feces a lot faster. Have you added some kind of ventilation to your system? If not, doesn't it get terribly smelly? Toilet bowls get dirty, shit tends to stick to the bowl. How do you clean the bowl? Paper is organic, it's made from wood pulp. It actually composts rather quickly. Do you put the used toilet paper in the bucket? If not how do you handle and dispose of it? Do you put sawdust in the bucket after each use? What's the procedure and where do you acquire the sawdust? Is it coarse sawdust or powdery? Earthworms can aid in composting. Can worms survive in your buckets of shit? it gets a little bit boring going over the same ground , I have actually answered these before. But just for you one last time. The ventilation isn't for the odor, it's to keep air flowing. To help the drying process. I can add one if needed, but I don't really need one. It doesn't smell nasty, it's the urine that goes off and smells worse than the shit mixed with sawdust. Rinsing the urine bottle out when emptying it, keeps the smell off that under control. A quick spray with cleaner and a wipe takes care of keeping the bowl clean. Although paper composts, it composts much slower. So you end up with nice compost with shit roll in it , if you put it in the toilet. I place mine in the stove and burn it. The sawdust is medium course definately not fine, one handful after every visit is enough. Pet shops sell sawdust as pet bedding. Some people do compost with worms, I could have them in the bucket but I don't need them. Once the bucket is full with the lid on, it needs turning once a month or so. You really need to sort your shit out Kris.
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Post by Andyberg on Aug 31, 2016 21:27:05 GMT
The ventilation isn't for the odor, it's to keep air flowing. To help the drying process. I can add one if needed, but I don't really need one. It doesn't smell nasty, it's the urine that goes off and smells worse than the shit mixed with sawdust. Rinsing the urine bottle out when emptying it, keeps the smell off that under control. A quick spray with cleaner and a wipe takes care of keeping the bowl clean. Although paper composts, it composts much slower. So you end up with nice compost with shit roll in it , if you put it in the toilet. I place mine in the stove and burn it. The sawdust is medium course definately not fine, one handful after every visit is enough. Pet shops sell sawdust as pet bedding. Some people do compost with worms, I could have them in the bucket but I don't need them. Once the bucket is full with the lid on, it needs turning once a month or so You really need to sort your shit out Kris.Showed your post to the missus,Kris and asked her opinion about ripping out our hassle n stink free pump out setup and replacing it with an environmentally friendly system like yours. I didn't really catch what she said after the ' don't be such a fuckin idiot you dirty fuckin pig' comment and slap round the ear-ole!!!
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Post by Stumpy on Aug 31, 2016 21:39:19 GMT
it gets a little bit boring going over the same ground , I have actually answered these before. But just for you one last time. The ventilation isn't for the odor, it's to keep air flowing. To help the drying process. I can add one if needed, but I don't really need one. It doesn't smell nasty, it's the urine that goes off and smells worse than the shit mixed with sawdust. Rinsing the urine bottle out when emptying it, keeps the smell off that under control. A quick spray with cleaner and a wipe takes care of keeping the bowl clean. Although paper composts, it composts much slower. So you end up with nice compost with shit roll in it , if you put it in the toilet. I place mine in the stove and burn it. The sawdust is medium course definately not fine, one handful after every visit is enough. Pet shops sell sawdust as pet bedding. Some people do compost with worms, I could have them in the bucket but I don't need them. Once the bucket is full with the lid on, it needs turning once a month or so. Kris, this is too good a pun to waste...........................So, you really are a shit stirrer
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