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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 4, 2019 17:07:10 GMT
• Category A is for batteries with a higher storage capacity for people who frequently use their touring caravan or motorhome away from an electrical hook-up: • Category B batteries are aimed at those who frequently use sites with hook-up facilities, but require a greater battery capacity to operate devices such as motor movers: • Category C batteries are for users that require a lower capacity battery to cover basic operation of their habitation equipment for short periods away from an electrical hook-up: Does anyone know how reliable this rating system is? It's new batteries time and my last set, which were Yuasa at £100 each have lasted less than a year. They weren't NCC marked but some digging around online suggests they were Class C. Halfords sell these Class A batteries which are £116 with a trade card, anyone have any experience with them? www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb800Also, it seems that hardly any leisure battery manufacturers mark the NCC rating and I wondered why not?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 17:17:34 GMT
• Category A is for batteries with a higher storage capacity for people who frequently use their touring caravan or motorhome away from an electrical hook-up: • Category B batteries are aimed at those who frequently use sites with hook-up facilities, but require a greater battery capacity to operate devices such as motor movers: • Category C batteries are for users that require a lower capacity battery to cover basic operation of their habitation equipment for short periods away from an electrical hook-up: Does anyone know how reliable this rating system is? It's new batteries time and my last set, which were Yuasa at £100 each have lasted less than a year. They weren't NCC marked but some digging around online suggests they were Class C. Halfords sell these Class A batteries which are £116 with a trade card, anyone have any experience with them? www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb800Also, it seems that hardly any leisure battery manufacturers mark the NCC rating and I wondered why not? Regarded in parts of the experienced caravanning community as 'bullshit' Seen as another attempt by the NCC as a way of increasing their 'regulatory' powers. I also understand its the manufacturers who actually grade their products with no independent verification making the scheme meaningless. Edit I also understand Halfords leisure batteries are re branded Yuasa products.
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Post by Mr Stabby on Oct 4, 2019 17:24:43 GMT
Thank you, I imagine as a caravanner you will have some considerable knowledge of this (genuine thought).
NCC say "Battery verification comes via a comprehensive, industry leading, testing process conducted by suitably certified and audited test houses". Is this considered not to be an entirely accurate statement?
Also, on a more general note is there any opinion in the Pikey caravanning community about Halfords batteries, and particularly if the warranty covers batteries which do not reach the warranty period because of heavy usage (i.e. liveaboard) ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 17:41:39 GMT
Thank you, I imagine as a caravanner you will have some considerable knowledge of this (genuine thought). NCC say "Battery verification comes via a comprehensive, industry leading, testing process conducted by suitably certified and audited test houses". Is this considered not to be an entirely accurate statement? Also, on a more general note is there any opinion in the Pikey caravanning community about Halfords batteries, and particularly if the warranty covers batteries which do not reach the warranty period because of heavy usage (i.e. liveaboard) ? I cant comment on what they claim about verification, I have been told on a numder of occasions its the manufacturers. Halfords batteries are regarded positively but unless things have changed this is because they are re branded Yuasa, which are generally well regarded. As to warranty, its much the same as any other. Its normally down to proving a manufacturing fault. If they can show they have been abused/misused then the claim will get backheeled. I think warranty claims will be rare in regards to use in caravans though. Wild off grid camping is less common than it was years ago, meaning caravanners are often hooked up to mains with their three stage chargers keeping the battery in fine fettle. Lots like us also have solar keeping the battery topped up whilst not being used. Our current battery was bought in 2015 and is still fine. (Touches wood). Accordingly a failure within the warranty period is actually quite rare I would say.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 17:54:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2019 19:41:03 GMT
The best way to do a warranty claim is to bullshit about how the batteries have been used.
I killed a pair of rather expensive Rolls batteries in 18 months. "4000" series 6v blocks with 7 year warranty.
One cell on each block of 3 was almost water verified by the refractometer.
Anyway I had been hammering them with a 120a charger run off a big generator and always ran them low and never fully charging. That was before I put the barge on a mooring. This was on a 400ah bank so around 1/3C charge rate which is quite a bit.
When asked by the man on email I just said it's normally on mains through a 20a charger and sometimes a 70a engine alternator.
Batteries replaced. That was 6 years ago. Still going strong and have indeed been on a 20a Truecharge charger ever since.
Maybe I killed them maybe they were faulty but either way it was necessary to bullshit in the warranty claim...
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Post by brummieboy on Oct 5, 2019 12:21:03 GMT
I've had these from Halfords www.halfords.com/motoring/bulbs-blades-batteries/leisure-batteries/halfords-leisure-battery-hlb681. 3 years and still O.K. If on the moorings, (very occasionally) I plug in a 20amp charger, but mainly out and about usage. I also have 200w Solar which keeps them nicely topped up whilst moored without usage. I've yet to see an honoured warranty claim as failure is usually attributed to sulphation rather than a manufacturing fault. At £90 a piece, I consider them consumable and expect to replace every 2-3 years.
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Post by peterboat on Oct 6, 2019 22:40:17 GMT
John V and myself have LifePo4s they are light years ahead of LAs however the cost of even our secondhand ones is ouch stuff! In the long run they are fit and forget for a very very long time, so they will pay for themselves in the long run. The big plus is that they dont have to be fully charged on a regular basis, though if left unused 50-60% charged is best. I have four of them in my Mega truck with solar charging, I hope they last many years in that application, though they do get harder worked than the ones in the boat
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