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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 10:14:55 GMT
I've got to do the windows on Dulcinea as most of them are a bit nackered from sun exposure. There are 25 individual panels. I've already ordered perspex for the back ones which are all the same square shape they should be easy enough .
For the forward facing ones I think polycarbonate might be better for the bullet proofing.
Has anyone worked with either or both of these materials? Which is easier to deal with DIY using a jigsaw? No complex shapes but the front panels are not square.
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Post by Telemachus on Oct 30, 2019 10:22:38 GMT
I've got to do the windows on Dulcinea as most of them are a bit nackered from sun exposure. There are 25 individual panels. I've already ordered perspex for the back ones which are all the same square shape they should be easy enough . For the forward facing ones I think polycarbonate might be better for the bullet proofing. Has anyone worked with either or both of these materials? Which is easier to deal with DIY using a jigsaw? No complex shapes but the front panels are not square. I think either are ok but Perspex is softer, polycarbonate is more prone to splintering/ cracking. In both cases, work on it when it is warm. Cold Perspex is pretty brittle. And go slowly.
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Post by bodger on Oct 30, 2019 11:34:51 GMT
I've got to do the windows on Dulcinea as most of them are a bit nackered from sun exposure. There are 25 individual panels. I've already ordered perspex for the back ones which are all the same square shape they should be easy enough . For the forward facing ones I think polycarbonate might be better for the bullet proofing. Has anyone worked with either or both of these materials? Which is easier to deal with DIY using a jigsaw? No complex shapes but the front panels are not square. I think either are ok but Perspex is softer, polycarbonate is more prone to splintering/ cracking. In both cases, work on it when it is warm. Cold Perspex is pretty brittle. And go slowly. I beg to differ. Polycarbonate is very soft and almost indestructible by impact, it just deflects and recovers. I recall it was/is used for the bodies of RC model racing cars and it will never split or crack from an impact, but because it is not hard it scratches very easily. I would suggest that it is quite unsuitable for windows for this reason. Perspex (acrylic) is hard, brittle and must be worked with care - for example holes should be drilled with a blunt drill bit that wears away the material and doesn't snag on it. I have used it for the windows of my last three boats, including heavily curved windows on an Edwardian style launch, all with great success. It is not as hard as glass, and will scratch, but not to the extent of polycarbonate. So, perspex acrylic every time. Of course if you really want it to be bullet proof then thick polycarbonate is essential, but it would need to be about an inch thick, and you would need to replace it every few weeks because it will get scratched quickly. I have suffered several reasonable impacts on my perspex windows when navigating through tree-strewn backwaters against a strong current, but no damage that couldn't be polished out in no time. I used a mini circular saw (the blade is about 40mm diameter) to cut straight and slightly curving cuts, if done with care it will not shatter. A very fine jigsaw blade might work, but it will probably clog very quickly. I fired up the cuts with a belt sander medium grit, done very gently.
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Post by bodger on Oct 30, 2019 11:36:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 11:57:36 GMT
bodger that's another question how do you polish out scratches? Do you use a proprietary perspex polish or something else?
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Post by lollygagger on Oct 30, 2019 12:41:59 GMT
Cut it with a 1mm slitting disc in your grinder.
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Post by Jim on Oct 30, 2019 13:00:31 GMT
Perspex can be scored and snapped like glass, a cutter can be be made out of an old hacksaw blade. I may well have one in a drawer in the shed, I can send you a pic. For straight cuts it's the easiest and cleanest way. The problem with a jigsaw and probably a slitting disc, the heat generated melts the sawdust and it sets in blobs behind the blade.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 13:23:34 GMT
Cut it with a 1mm slitting disc in your grinder. I was wondering about that. Just reopened the thread and was going to say "is it worth trying it with a slitting disc?". Answer is yes I see
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 13:25:23 GMT
Perspex can be scored and snapped like glass, a cutter can be be made out of an old hacksaw blade. I may well have one in a drawer in the shed, I can send you a pic. For straight cuts it's the easiest and cleanest way. The problem with a jigsaw and probably a slitting disc, the heat generated melts the sawdust and it sets in blobs behind the blade. 5mm is what I will use. Interesting option if I can snap it like that. I was wondering about clamping it between two pieces of wood in the vice then scoring the line somehow but not sure how to get it deep enough. Clamped upright like that then slitting disc along the top of the wood board as a guide is quite interesting then tidy up the edges with a sander. That would be a pretty quick way to process the stuff. I also have some psycho circular saw blades for the angel grinder but that's a bit mental.
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Post by bodger on Oct 30, 2019 13:25:58 GMT
bodger that's another question how do you polish out scratches? Do you use a proprietary perspex polish or something else? yes - plenty of choice on t'internet.
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Post by bodger on Oct 30, 2019 13:28:21 GMT
Perspex can be scored and snapped like glass, a cutter can be be made out of an old hacksaw blade. I may well have one in a drawer in the shed, I can send you a pic. For straight cuts it's the easiest and cleanest way. The problem with a jigsaw and probably a slitting disc, the heat generated melts the sawdust and it sets in blobs behind the blade. if you're lucky it will follow the score, but it is not as brittle as glass so it doesn't always break as you would like - you may waste a large and expensive sheet of perspex doing that. please don't ask me how I know.
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Post by Jim on Oct 30, 2019 14:33:10 GMT
Perspex can be scored and snapped like glass, a cutter can be be made out of an old hacksaw blade. I may well have one in a drawer in the shed, I can send you a pic. For straight cuts it's the easiest and cleanest way. The problem with a jigsaw and probably a slitting disc, the heat generated melts the sawdust and it sets in blobs behind the blade. 5mm is what I will use. Interesting option if I can snap it like that. I was wondering about clamping it between two pieces of wood in the vice then scoring the line somehow but not sure how to get it deep enough. Clamped upright like that then slitting disc along the top of the wood board as a guide is quite interesting then tidy up the edges with a sander. That would be a pretty quick way to process the stuff. I also have some psycho circular saw blades for the angel grinder but that's a bit mental. Is Angel Grinder a meeting place for gay winged people, saints like Telemachus obvs. Re @bfg 's post, I reckon you can score it deeply to avoid run off. You would be cutting a deep slim groove along the line. I'll post a pic when I get home.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:46:16 GMT
Thanks for that it's an interesting option for the straight 'edges.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:47:43 GMT
I was advised to use a hacksaw blade in a jigsaw running slowly. Not sure how I would get proper straight lines though but I guess doing it really slow it might work.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2019 14:48:19 GMT
Another suggestion was a router.
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