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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 10:17:29 GMT
Democracy is no longer recognised by the those in power so what’s the point? There’s over 60 million of us and we’ve managed to carry on normally for the last few years with a government full of egotistical incompetent nimcompoops.
Just ignore them.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 10:44:33 GMT
Brexit party for me. I don't like Johnson's deal, I just want out, (though I have a sneaky suspicion that boris will renege on his deal, and just take us out).
I want to see (freaky) swinson, (I'm a little teapot short and stout, everytime I spout, shit comes out) sturgeon and (magic grandpa) Corbyn annihilated, turned to dust.
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Post by JohnV on Nov 16, 2019 10:45:26 GMT
we’ve managed to carry on normally for the last few years with a government full of egotistical incompetent nimcompoops. Belgium managed to survive for nearly two years without a government at all
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 10:56:47 GMT
Brexit party for me. I don't like Johnson's deal, I just want out, (though I have a sneaky suspicion that boris will renege on his deal, and just take us out). I want to see (freaky) swinson, (I'm a little teapot short and stout, everytime I spout shit comes out) sturgeon and (magic grandpa) Corbyn annihilated, turned to dust. Swinson wants a second Brexit referendum. So she doesn't recognise the result of the first democratic vote. Seems a bit hypercritical to call it the Liberal Demicratic party doesn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 11:13:40 GMT
Brexit party for me. I don't like Johnson's deal, I just want out, (though I have a sneaky suspicion that boris will renege on his deal, and just take us out). I want to see (freaky) swinson, (I'm a little teapot short and stout, everytime I spout shit comes out) sturgeon and (magic grandpa) Corbyn annihilated, turned to dust. Swinson wants a second Brexit referendum. So she doesn't recognise the result of the first democratic vote. Seems a bit hypercritical to call it the Liberal Demicratic party doesn't it? She wants a second referendum and has stated she will not even recognise that if it's again for leave. Twisted and demented is a polite description for that.
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Post by thebfg on Nov 16, 2019 12:58:05 GMT
Swinson wants a second Brexit referendum. So she doesn't recognise the result of the first democratic vote. Seems a bit hypercritical to call it the Liberal Demicratic party doesn't it? She wants a second referendum and has stated she will not even recognise that if it's again for leave. Twisted and demented is a polite description for that. Sounds like our very own Jim 😉😘
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2019 13:12:16 GMT
Brexit party for me. I don't like Johnson's deal, I just want out, (though I have a sneaky suspicion that boris will renege on his deal, and just take us out). I want to see (freaky) swinson, (I'm a little teapot short and stout, everytime I spout shit comes out) sturgeon and (magic grandpa) Corbyn annihilated, turned to dust. Swinson wants a second Brexit referendum. So she doesn't recognise the result of the first democratic vote. Seems a bit hypercritical to call it the Liberal Demicratic party doesn't it? Hyper critical? , you are being sooo picky about someone you say is only half democratic.
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2019 13:17:11 GMT
Well, that poll just shows its true how lots of people get more right wing as they get older. Funny how dementia has a similar pattern. I'm glad I'm bucking the trend, in both ways.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 13:20:20 GMT
Well, that poll just shows its true how lots of people get more right wing as they get older. Funny how dementia has a similar pattern. I'm glad I'm bucking the trend, in both ways. Taking it up the arse as one of Jeremy's corbynistas does not mean you are bucking the trend. It just means you are gullible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 13:30:20 GMT
Well, that poll just shows its true how lots of people get more right wing as they get older. Funny how dementia has a similar pattern. I'm glad I'm bucking the trend, in both ways. It shows nothing of the sort. I have pretty much voted Tory ever since my 20's - ever since Labour and their cronies cast hospital patients into paper sheets and my wife had to transport patients in the snow from the ward to the mortuary because the porters were on strike (again!), this after she had to walk in the snow to work because the porters also drove the hospital bus. I have deviated in European elections to Lib Dems because of their very pro European stance but I can't recall if I ever voted Labour.
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2019 13:46:37 GMT
Well, that poll just shows its true how lots of people get more right wing as they get older. Funny how dementia has a similar pattern. I'm glad I'm bucking the trend, in both ways. It shows nothing of the sort. I have pretty much voted Tory ever since my 20's - ever since Labour and their cronies cast hospital patients into paper sheets and my wife had to transport patients in the snow from the ward to the mortuary because the porters were on strike (again!), this after she had to walk in the snow to work because the porters also drove the hospital bus. I have deviated in European elections to Lib Dems because of their very pro European stance but I can't recall if I ever voted Labour. Fair enough. Some people are born with a disability and have to deal with it all their lives. You have my sympathy. So the hard working dedicated lowly paid hospital staff were driven to strike to get fair recompense? Management had no thought for the effects their actions would have on patients then, leaving staff no option but to strike? There's truth and then there's tory spin!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 13:59:25 GMT
It shows nothing of the sort. I have pretty much voted Tory ever since my 20's - ever since Labour and their cronies cast hospital patients into paper sheets and my wife had to transport patients in the snow from the ward to the mortuary because the porters were on strike (again!), this after she had to walk in the snow to work because the porters also drove the hospital bus. I have deviated in European elections to Lib Dems because of their very pro European stance but I can't recall if I ever voted Labour. Fair enough. Some people are born with a disability and have to deal with it all their lives. You have my sympathy. So the hard working dedicated lowly paid hospital staff were driven to strike to get fair recompense? Management had no thought for the effects their actions would have on patients then, leaving staff no option but to strike? There's truth and then there's tory spin! You really are a cretin aren't you Coco. I was neither born with a disability nor have sympathy for people who work in public services like health who strike. I would actually make it illegal. The only reason those morons could go on strike was because they knew the nursing staff would pick up their work, when what we should have done is said no and let the bodies pile up on the wards decaying. But no because we actually went into the job to help people we dug in and got on with it. So tell me Jimbo how do you supply clean sheets to a ward when the laundry is on strike? The management contingency was the paper sheets, management had no other option, they couldn't get the sheets in the quantities required. Thankfully most of these types of services are contracted out of the NHS and is done by private sub contractors minimising the opportunity for such disruption. All brought about because the Unions got out of control...... they reaped what they sowed.
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2019 14:09:49 GMT
Fair enough. Some people are born with a disability and have to deal with it all their lives. You have my sympathy. So the hard working dedicated lowly paid hospital staff were driven to strike to get fair recompense? Management had no thought for the effects their actions would have on patients then, leaving staff no option but to strike? There's truth and then there's tory spin! You really are a cretin aren't you Coco. I was neither born with a disability nor have sympathy for people who work in public services like health who strike. I would actually make it illegal. The only reason those morons could go on strike was because they knew the nursing staff would pick up their work, when what we should have done is said no and let the bodies pile up on the wards decaying. But no because we actually went into the job to help people we dug in and got on with it. So tell me Jimbo how do you supply clean sheets to a ward when the laundry is on strike? The management contingency was the paper sheets, management had no other option, they couldn't get the sheets in the quantities required. Thankfully most of these types of services are contracted out of the NHS and is done by private sub contractors minimising the opportunity for such disruption. All brought about because the Unions got out of control...... they reaped what they sowed. My initial point is valid, while some are obviously born afflicted by a tory mindset, others go that way, just as with dementia (some get early onset). www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/out-the-darkness/201806/the-politics-ageing. "It is also well known than older people tend to be more nationalistic than younger people, and to show more prejudice towards members of other ethnic or national groups. Research has shown that older white adults tend to be significantly more racist than their younger counterparts. Other research suggests that older people are more likely to form and maintain stereotypical inferences, potentially leading to more prejudice." We frequently see evidence of that here. So, Nursey, again you present the tory " spin". The fact is that the staff were forced to strike by intransigent management imposing unacceptable conditions, they forced the strike. They could have stopped polishing their chairs and sorted the sheet problem. How shiny was your chair, in latter years, or did you remain in a proper caring job?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 14:18:12 GMT
You really are a cretin aren't you Coco. I was neither born with a disability nor have sympathy for people who work in public services like health who strike. I would actually make it illegal. The only reason those morons could go on strike was because they knew the nursing staff would pick up their work, when what we should have done is said no and let the bodies pile up on the wards decaying. But no because we actually went into the job to help people we dug in and got on with it. So tell me Jimbo how do you supply clean sheets to a ward when the laundry is on strike? The management contingency was the paper sheets, management had no other option, they couldn't get the sheets in the quantities required. Thankfully most of these types of services are contracted out of the NHS and is done by private sub contractors minimising the opportunity for such disruption. All brought about because the Unions got out of control...... they reaped what they sowed. My initial point is valid, while some are obviously born afflicted by a tory mindset, others go that way, just as with dementia (some get early onset). www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/out-the-darkness/201806/the-politics-ageing. "It is also well known than older people tend to be more nationalistic than younger people, and to show more prejudice towards members of other ethnic or national groups. Research has shown that older white adults tend to be significantly more racist than their younger counterparts. Other research suggests that older people are more likely to form and maintain stereotypical inferences, potentially leading to more prejudice." We frequently see evidence of that here. So, Nursey, again you present the tory " spin". The fact is that the staff were forced to strike by intransigent management imposing unacceptable conditions, they forced the strike. They could have stopped polishing their chairs and sorted the sheet problem. How shiny was your chair, in latter years, or did you remain in a proper caring job? No I present the facts. You simply couldn't get the number of clean sheets in the quantities required. They required thousands a week across our area. Hence you couldn't come up with anything better. Oh and by the way - the strikes I am referring to took place in 1978/9 and the 'management' in charge of the NHS at the time was of course a Labour Government, so maybe it was their fault?? - so would you now like to revise that comment. A history lesson for you Coco. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_DiscontentThe Winter of Discontent was the winter of 1978–79 in the United Kingdom, during which there were widespread strikes by public sector trade unions demanding larger pay rises, following the ongoing pay caps of the Labour Party government led by James Callaghan against Trades Union Congress opposition to control inflation, during the coldest winter for 16 years.[1]
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Post by Jim on Nov 16, 2019 14:34:25 GMT
My initial point is valid, while some are obviously born afflicted by a tory mindset, others go that way, just as with dementia (some get early onset). www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/out-the-darkness/201806/the-politics-ageing. "It is also well known than older people tend to be more nationalistic than younger people, and to show more prejudice towards members of other ethnic or national groups. Research has shown that older white adults tend to be significantly more racist than their younger counterparts. Other research suggests that older people are more likely to form and maintain stereotypical inferences, potentially leading to more prejudice." We frequently see evidence of that here. So, Nursey, again you present the tory " spin". The fact is that the staff were forced to strike by intransigent management imposing unacceptable conditions, they forced the strike. They could have stopped polishing their chairs and sorted the sheet problem. How shiny was your chair, in latter years, or did you remain in a proper caring job? No I present the facts. You simply couldn't get the number of clean sheets in the quantities required. They required thousands a week across our area. Hence you couldn't come up with anything better. Oh and by the way - the strikes I am referring to took place in 1978/9 and the 'management' in charge of the NHS at the time was of course a Labour Government, so maybe it was their fault?? - so would you now like to revise that comment. A history lesson for you Coco. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_DiscontentThe Winter of Discontent was the winter of 1978–79 in the United Kingdom, during which there were widespread strikes by public sector trade unions demanding larger pay rises, following the ongoing pay caps of the Labour Party government led by James Callaghan against Trades Union Congress opposition to control inflation, during the coldest winter for 16 years.[1]Many Labour leaders got it wrong in the past, especially Tony Blair. I don't just blindly follow whoever, if I see their faults I will say so. Unlike those who blindly follow one party all their lives, admittedly straying occasionally. You seem to have perfect recall of past events? Yet I'll bet you forget where you put your keys, slippers etc. Creeping dementia lad! You forgot to answer the last bit too, I'll remind you if you've forgotten already; How shiny was your chair, in latter years, or did you remain in a proper caring job?
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